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Dec 25, 2013 23:34:35   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
ElAku wrote:
Don't I wish! My concern are those who will 'pray' to and bellow about a nonexistent "Jesus" (Note: Neither they nor 'he' can deliver a damned thing or we wouldn't be in this mess to begin with; all duly documented above and for centuries on end!) who waste irreplaceable time, effort and energy in those absolutely jackass, totally worthless pursuits!

This out-of-control political situation is going to get a whole lot worse before it gets one iota better and the timing depends entirely on the DEAD body count: THEIRS or OURS!
RE: What does the US Government need with 30,000 brand-new, state-of-the-art guillotines? Do they have some ass-slicing in mind? If so, whose ass do you think will be in that mass severance?
RE: Is anybody idiotic enough to suppose "GEE-SUS" or any other such stupidity is going to save THEM when the Bastards That Be send their Gestapo to knock on every door in the nation? Anyone THAT stupid NEEDS their head cut off - and they're damned sure going to get it!

FYI, are any among the hallelujahists aware that Chernobyl is the fulfilling of Revelation 8:10 "And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; and Revelation 8:11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter." - ??? Don't think so, ask anybody who understands Russian: Chernobyl = Wormwood!
And on the heels of Chernobyl we have Fukushima - the beginning of the THIRD part of earth, waters and wildlife, to be destroyed - and not one damned syllable of 'Praise Jesus' has prevented even a water mollusk to escape! 98% Of Pacific Ocean Floor Covered With Death! And we're all supposed to become weak-kneed pusswillies to humor the abject insanities of hallelujah halfwits?

This is a WAR beyond comprehension to most who will be slaughtered in it. The FACT many among the Bastards That Be will also be disposed of after having served their purpose will be damned scant comfort to the millions of ignorants and innocents for whom those 30,000 guillotines were manufactured.

This is NOT a war of 'belief'! This is a war of incomprehensible horrors. And we MUST get off the never-did-work kicks, political, scientific and religious, and be about the FACT of self-defense, neighborhood defense, city-defense, county-defense, state-defense and NATIONAL DEFENSE from the inside where the DEMONS are located!

All those who understand THAT and the obligations with respect thereto will find me, and all Akurians, in their camp. Those who even remotely suppose either me, or any Akurian, is going to humor any gutless idiocies will find themselves ENCAMPED AGAINST and TESTIFIED AGAINST before The Most High.

As I said above, "Don't I wish!" But I won't hold my breath. I don't look good in purple at all, and especially in the face!

SAFE Holidays to all!
Don't I wish! My concern are those who will 'pray... (show quote)


I've known about the guillotines for a while now. Jesse Ventura exposed those 3 years ago. 15,000 are in Georgia outside of Atlanta. The FEMA camps are the starting point and the guillotines will be the ending point depending what color sticker is placed on your mailbox. The reason for these devices is that if the gov is executing people with them then Islam cannot be blamed for using their swords.

Fukushima is huge news that is NEVER reported. It has already hit the left coast and I only will eat seafood from the gulf because of it. People are already getting sick and nothing is reported. Radiation levels are through the roof on wildlife and fish from Cali to Alaska.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1310/S00208/us-west-coast-fried-by-nuclear-radiation-from-fukushima.htm

U.N. troops have been and are being deployed here on a weekly basis and as soon as they get off the planes they immediately change into American uniforms. They are the NWO army.
http://govtslaves.info/un-troops-landing-at-us-air-force-bases/

I'm well aware of what is coming Aku and when I sound the alarm on these issues some listen and some laugh....the ones that laugh will be the first to go.
I'm mentally prepared first and have been equipping for some time now.
Will we make it to the midterms? Or will it be too late?
This is what I ask people and they better get ready. It might begin with Israel's initial bombing of Iran's nuke facilities or an impatient Obama could "black flag" a tragedy to get the ball rolling. In any event, all I can say is DIG IN!

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Dec 27, 2013 14:32:38   #
Hungry Freaks
 
Ah, EIAku, I don't mean to tell you how to view God. That is strictly your business. But it does bother me that you're telling basically everyone who isn't an Akrurian that THEY are wrong. Who are you to say who will enter the Kingdom of God? Certainly no mortal human.

And while the VA may have given you a clean bill of mental health, I wonder if you showed them any of the Akurian stuff or your postings. I've got a similar clean bill of mental health, but that doesn't mean I don't have problems.

As a Christian, it's a little offensive to me that yo claim only you and yours has a stranglehold on the truth. You don't. Read the Bible a little closer. Especially James. If you're going to quote James, read the entire book, especially the part about being "quarrelsome."

Christians come in all stripes. As long as they believe in Jesus as the Son of God, whatever definition one gives to The Son of God, who am i or you to judge? Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, all religions, all have their track to salvation. "In my Father's House there are many rooms. I come to prepare one of them for you." Some versions of the Bible say "many mansions." Regardless, it could be that Jesus was telling us that there's more to salvation than we care to admit.

And did you now that the Akurians were also mentioned in the movie "Star Wars?" They were a fictional race, made up by Spielberg and his writers, mentioned in one of the "Star Wars" movies. "The Snow Stompers" I believe they are called. Is this related?

Hey, I've got a friend who follows the writings of Zacharia Steichen, who claims that aliens came to earth during the early days and mated with the native population, creating what we call "modern man." figures like Moses, Alexander the Great and other great men were of the purist alien blood, according to Steichen.

Do I believe that? Not really. Not at all, actually. But it is interesting" Yes. And who am I to say that this is not the truth? "The Truth" can be elusive at times, especially when it comes to deeply held spiritual beliefs.

But when someone comes and tells me that they are The Chosen and the rest of us are dog meat, I gotta say my peace. Read the Bible, the Torah, the Koran, any holy scripture (and they are all holy) and tell me were it gives you the right or to say, or the ability to discern, who is doomed to damnation and who isn't.

You don't. But at least I learned of a new group today-and about their view on life, death and the hereafter. And that makes for a good day, indeed.

Meanwhile, I got an appointment back on the planet Earth. Talk to you later. It really has been a pleasure. Your posts are most entertaining even if parts of them are somewhat offensive. Keep on posting, brother.

ElAku wrote:
Your problem is simple. You wouldn't know the TRUTH if were branded with a hotiron right between your eyes!

Let's see ... James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? BINGO! No works ... regardless of the promises. No cleaning out hospitals, no raising the proven dead. YOUR 'religion' not mine ...

Talks of "discernment" but can't deliver ... and can't teach anybody else how to do it ... (Shhhh .. those Akurians teach it as a first grade ability ...)

Speaking in tongues ... but can't translate Angelic? Dares not touch the subject .... (Shhhh .. those Akurians teach it ... FACT: less than about 1/10th of 1% can even be spoken in the Earth Plane)

Talks about heaven ... but can't get UP INTO THE SPIRIT? Dares not touch the subject .. again ... (Shhh ... the Akurians teach that too...The ANOINTED, The ELECT, and The DAMNED! CHAPTER FORTY-ONE, ASTRAL PROJECTION, GETTING CONSCIOUSLY "UP IN THE SPIRIT" WITHOUT DYING, HOW TO DO IT - is free on-line, beginning Paragraph 7342.)

TWO HUNDRED AND SEVEN TIMES, The Most High (lord) and the word 'KNOW' appears in the Old Testament: usually to the effect of THAT IS WHO HE IS; "you do this and I'll do that and you WILL KNOW THAT I AM THE LORD!" In these instances 'belief' is conspicuous by it's absence ...

Yep ... your handle on TRUTH is too short for even a finger grip and greased end-to-end ...

But THANKS for the opportunity to expose your kind of never-did-work nonsense! My replies really weren't to you or your ilk, but to those Seekers of Truth who want the information .. you know, those other READERS who actually checked-out Akurian information and FOUND IT FLAWLESS!

The Citizens of this Nation need all the FIREPOWER they can get! The days now are when said Citizens need said FIREPOWER to defend themselves AGAINST this Demonic-Controlled SOCIALIST Government! The Most High still offers that solution ...
Your problem is simple. b You wouldn't know the ... (show quote)

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Dec 27, 2013 14:48:16   #
Hungry Freaks
 
You're saying there's 15,000 guillotines outside of Atlanta and that some day, some day soon, FEMA will be putting color codes on our mailboxes to determine who is and who isn't carted off to this facility?

I seriously doubt it. FEMA couldn't handle Katrina. Do you seriously think any force, government of otherwise, will be able to single out citizens for death in this heavily armed nation of ours?

And in GEORGIA? You gotta be kidding me. FEMA or UN troops would be, for the locals, kind of like shooting clays.

I'm a big proponent of the Second Amendment for many reasons. Not the least is that a heavily armed nation is a nation where citizens can't be easily abused by the government, at least abused to the point of having their lives taken from them. At least not without a fight. Check out Ruby Ridge.

Also, I read about a story about Fukushima regularly. It's bad. One fully expects Godzilla or Mothra to rise out of the Sea of Japan any day. But the Pacific is really big. The dilution factor is what keeps the ocean safe. My sister-in-law is a chemist for NOAA, so I'll ask her. But she's probably in on the entire thing, so what she tells me will most likely be a lie. Right? Maybe she knows something about the guillotines. If I'm real slick about it, I can get her to spill the beans.

Again, I've got an appointment back on planet Earth. Catch you latter.

bdamage wrote:
I've known about the guillotines for a while now. Jesse Ventura exposed those 3 years ago. 15,000 are in Georgia outside of Atlanta. The FEMA camps are the starting point and the guillotines will be the ending point depending what color sticker is placed on your mailbox. The reason for these devices is that if the gov is executing people with them then Islam cannot be blamed for using their swords.

Fukushima is huge news that is NEVER reported. It has already hit the left coast and I only will eat seafood from the gulf because of it. People are already getting sick and nothing is reported. Radiation levels are through the roof on wildlife and fish from Cali to Alaska.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1310/S00208/us-west-coast-fried-by-nuclear-radiation-from-fukushima.htm

U.N. troops have been and are being deployed here on a weekly basis and as soon as they get off the planes they immediately change into American uniforms. They are the NWO army.
http://govtslaves.info/un-troops-landing-at-us-air-force-bases/

I'm well aware of what is coming Aku and when I sound the alarm on these issues some listen and some laugh....the ones that laugh will be the first to go.
I'm mentally prepared first and have been equipping for some time now.
Will we make it to the midterms? Or will it be too late?
This is what I ask people and they better get ready. It might begin with Israel's initial bombing of Iran's nuke facilities or an impatient Obama could "black flag" a tragedy to get the ball rolling. In any event, all I can say is DIG IN!
I've known about the guillotines for a while now. ... (show quote)

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Dec 27, 2013 16:30:12   #
ElAku
 
Hungry Freaks

Obviously you're one of those that sees only what they want to see (whether it's there or not) and hears only what you want to hear (even in a dead silence).

Everything I've written is DOCUMENTED ... but since you know-so-much (even more than The Most HIgh!) there's really not anything - especially TRUTH or as-yet-mysteries that will get through to you unless it sucks your stupidity like a firehose pump.

So, the same challenge goes to you as it does to every other hallelujah halfwit: Cleaned out any hospitals lately? .. raised any proven dead? ... multiplied any food to feed thousands? ... cast any mountains into the sea? ... If not, why not? THAT is YOUR 'religion' not mine nor anybody else's with more brains than a brick ...

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Dec 27, 2013 16:49:43   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
ElAku wrote:
Hungry Freaks

Obviously you're one of those that sees only what they want to see (whether it's there or not) and hears only what you want to hear (even in a dead silence).

Everything I've written is DOCUMENTED ... but since you know-so-much (even more than The Most HIgh!) there's really not anything - especially TRUTH or as-yet-mysteries that will get through to you unless it sucks your stupidity like a firehose pump.

So, the same challenge goes to you as it does to every other hallelujah halfwit: Cleaned out any hospitals lately? .. raised any proven dead? ... multiplied any food to feed thousands? ... cast any mountains into the sea? ... If not, why not? THAT is YOUR 'religion' not mine nor anybody else's with more brains than a brick ...
b Hungry Freaks /b br br Obviously you're one o... (show quote)
The Bible describes people like you, ElAku,

If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain. James 1:26

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Dec 27, 2013 19:15:47   #
Richard94611
 
I don't think anyone's universe is going to be shattered by this.


Nuclearian wrote:
The lead investigator in Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse investigation of President Obama’s birth certificate says the case has taken a startling turn, and sheriff’s investigators now are assisting the Cold Case volunteers.

“When this information is finally exposed to the public, it will be universe-shattering,” Mike Zullo told WND. “This is beyond the pale of anything you can imagine.”

Zullo explained that because it’s an active investigation that could produce criminal charges, he’s unable to reveal details at the moment.

But the allegations, he said, which go far beyond a fraudulent birth certificate, could be public as early as March.

The issue arose once again because of the death Wednesday in Hawaii of state Health Department chief Loretta Fuddy in a plane crash. She was the official who waived state prohibitions and provided to the White House a copy of a document that Obama presented to the public as his birth certificate.

It’s the document that Arpaio’s investigators have concluded is fraudulent.

Amid conspiracy theories circulating the Internet, Zullo told WND Friday that Fuddy’s death – she was the only fatality among nine people aboard a small airplane that crashed off the coast of Molokai – appears to be a tragic accident, not foul play.

He said his investigation does not depend on any information from Fuddy.

In an interview today with author and talk-radio host Carl Gallups of PPSimmons News and Ministry Network and the author of “The Magic Man in the Sky,” and the new “The Rabbi who Found Messiah,” Zullo said his investigation of the Obama fraud case “does not hinge on Ms. Fuddy.”

“While her death certainly is a tragedy, it in no way hampers our investigation in this matter,” he said. “If people truly believe that her untimely demise was somehow related to an attempt to silence her for ‘what she may or may not know,’ then there are several more people in Hawaii who should be very, very concerned.

“Again, I want to emphasize,” Zullo said, “Sheriff Arpaio and I do not, at this time, believe her death was connected to any nefarious circumstances.”

The birth certificate dispute dates back to before the 2008 election. Critics, including Hillary Clinton, raised the issue about Obama’s status as a “natural-born citizen.” Not defined in the Constitution, it probably was thought at the time of the writing of the Constitution to be someone born of two citizen parents.

Obama fails that test because his father was a Kenyan student visiting the U.S.

Arpaio assigned his Cold Case Posse to look into the issue before the 2012 election, when constituents approached him and asked him to check whether Obama would be an ineligible candidate on the presidential election ballot.

In a recent radio interview with Gallups, Zullo affirmed the investigation had been expanded to the county sheriff’s office and was “moving in a direction that was not anticipated by us.”

“The whole [issue] is more nefarious than you can imagine,” Zullo said, crediting Arpaio for ordering the investigation and sticking with it.

“He knows in his gut that something is wrong,” Zullo said.

Dozens of lawsuits have been filed without success. One case is pending before the Alabama Supreme Court for which Zullo provided evidence.

Still a live issue

Zullo has testified that the White House computer image of Obama’s birth certificate contains anomalies that are unexplainable unless the document had been fabricated piecemeal by human intervention, rather than being copied from a genuine paper document.

“Mr. Obama has, in fact, not offered any verifiable authoritative document of any legal significance or possessing any evidentiary value as to the origins of his purported birth narrative or location of the birth event,” he explained. “One of our most serious concerns is that the White House document appears to have been fabricated piecemeal on a computer, constructed by drawing together digitized data from several unknown sources.”

Zullo also has noted that the governor of Hawaii was unable to produce an original birth document for Obama, and it should have been easy to find.

More recently, Grace Vuoto of the World Tribune reported that among the experts challenging the birth certificate is certified document analyst Reed Hayes, who has served as an expert for Perkins Coie, the law firm that has been defending Obama in eligibility cases.

“We have obtained an affidavit from a certified document analyzer, Reed Hayes, that states the document is a 100 percent forgery, no doubt about it,” Zullo told the World Tribune.

“Mr. Obama’s operatives cannot discredit [Hayes],” the investigator told the news outlet. “Mr. Hayes has been used as the firm’s reliable expert. The very firm the president is using to defend him on the birth certificate case has used Mr. Hayes in their cases.”

The Tribune reported Hayes agreed to take a look at the documentation and called almost immediately.

“There is something wrong with this,” Hayes said.

Hayes produced a 40-page report in which he says “based on my observations and findings, it is clear that the Certificate of Live Birth I examined is not a scan of an original paper birth certificate, but a digitally manufactured document created by utilizing material from various sources.”

“In over 20 years of examining documentation of various types, I have never seen a document that is so seriously questionable in so many respects. In my opinion, the birth certificate is entirely fabricated,” he says in the report.

Investigator Douglas J. Hagmann of the Northeast Intelligence Network reported this month that in October an affidavit was filed in a court case, under seal, that purportedly identifies the creator of the Obama birth certificate.

He said Douglas Vogt, an author and the owner and operator of a scanning business who also has an accounting background, invested over two years in an investigation of the authenticity of document.

Vogt, along with veteran typesetter Paul Ivey, conducted “exhaustive research of the document provided to the White House Press Corps on April 27, 2011 – not the online PDF, a critical distinction that must be understood,” Hagmann said.

“Using their combined experience of 80 years in this realm, they conducted extensive examinations of the ‘copy’ that was used as the basis for the PDF document. They acquired the same type of equipment that was used back in the late 1950s and early 1960s in an attempt to recreate the document presented as an ‘authenticated copy’ proving the legitimacy of Barack Obama. Instead, they found 20 points of forgery on that document and detail each point of forgery in the affidavit,” wrote Hagmann.

“Even more interesting, Mr. Vogt claims to have identified the ‘signature’ of the perpetrator, or the woman who created the forged document, hidden within the document itself. Her identity, in addition to the identity of other conspirators and their precise methods are contained in a sealed document supplementing the public affidavit.”

Grounds for impeachment

Last month, WND columnist Christopher Monckton wrote that the controversy he calls “Hawaiigate” should be “the central ground of impeachment.”

“First, the dishonesty is shameless and in your face. Mr Obama’s advisers, once they realized the ‘birth certificate’ was as bogus as a $3 bill, knew that if they simply went on pretending that $3 bills are legal tender the hard-left-dominated news media would carefully and continuously look the other way, pausing occasionally to sneer at anyone who pointed out that, in this constitutionally crucial respect, the ‘president’ has no clothes,” Monckton wrote.

“Secondly, not one of the numerous agencies of state, as well as federal government, whose duty was and is to investigate the Mickey-Mouse ‘birth certificate’ has bothered even to respond to the thousands of requests for investigation put forward by U.S. citizens.”

He said that in Hawaii last year, he watched “as a senior former state senator called the police and, when they came, handed over to them compelling evidence that the ‘birth certificate’ had been forged.”

“The police, correctly, passed the file to the state’s attorney general, a ‘Democrat,’ who did nothing about it,” he said.

“In Washington, D.C., I watched as a concerned citizen from Texas telephoned the FBI and reported the ‘birth certificate’ as being a forgery. They said they would send two agents to see him within the hour. No one came.”

‘You tell me about eligibility’

One of the highest profile skeptics has been billionaire Donald Trump.

Trump said he can’t be certain that Obama is eligible to be president, and he pointedly noted that a reporter who was poking fun at the issue admitted he can’t, either.

Trump repeatedly has insisted Obama has not documented his eligibility. At one point, he offered $5 million to the charity or charities of Obama’s choice if he would release his passport records and authorize the colleges he attended to release his applications and other records.

Trump argues that those documents would show whether or not Obama ever accepted scholarship or other aid as a foreign student, which could preclude him from being a “natural-born citizen.”

Trump’s conversation with ABC’s Jonathan Karl started with Karl noting that Trump took on the “not serious” issue of eligibility.

“Why does that make me not serious?” Trump demanded. “I think that resonated with a lot of people.”

Karl replied: “You don’t still question he was born in the United States, do you?”

“I have no idea,” Trump said. “I don’t know. Was there a birth certificate? You tell me. You know some people say that was not his birth certificate. I’m saying I don’t know. Nobody knows, and you don’t know either. Jonathan you’re a smart guy, and you don’t know.”

When Karl admitted he was “pretty sure,” Trump jumped on the statement.

“You just said you’re pretty sure … you have to be 100 percent sure,” he said. “Jonathan, you said you’re pretty convinced, so let’s just see what happens over time.”

Among the many records the Obama camp has refused to release are the marriage license of his father (Barack Sr.) and mother (Stanley Ann Dunham), name change records (Barry Soetero to Barack Hussein Obama), adoption records, records of his and his mother’s repatriation as U.S. citizens from Indonesia, baptism records, Noelani Elementary School (Hawaii) records, Punahou School financial aid or school records, Occidental College financial aid records, Harvard Law School records, Columbia senior thesis, Columbia College records, record with Illinois State Bar Association, files from his terms as an Illinois state senator, his law client list, medical records and passport records.

Monckton, citing Zullo’s sworn affidavit in a court case, published a sworn mathematical analysis demonstrating the near-zero probability that the White House “birth certificate” is genuine.
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Dec 27, 2013 19:18:03   #
Richard94611
 
Don't hold your breath until March, however, or even in April, because you'll get very red in the face, first from lack of oxygen and in April for having been so wrong.


bdamage wrote:
Not really....maybe the news coming up this March will include evidence of his real pappy.

http://www.obamasrealfather.com/frank-marshall-davis/

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Dec 27, 2013 19:41:53   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Richard94611 wrote:
I don't think anyone's universe is going to be shattered by this.
Why don't you share the information your investigation into Obama's background has turned up? Truth is, you don't have a clue who he really is, do you? You bought his bullsh!t without questioning a thing. "Hope and change" and all that rot.

For nothing is hidden that will not be revealed, and nothing concealed that will not be made known and brought to light. Luke 8:17

Nuclearian wrote:
The lead investigator in Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse investigation of President Obama’s birth certificate says the case has taken a startling turn, and sheriff’s investigators now are assisting the Cold Case volunteers.

“When this information is finally exposed to the public, it will be universe-shattering,” Mike Zullo told WND. “This is beyond the pale of anything you can imagine.”

Zullo explained that because it’s an active investigation that could produce criminal charges, he’s unable to reveal details at the moment.

But the allegations, he said, which go far beyond a fraudulent birth certificate, could be public as early as March.

The issue arose once again because of the death Wednesday in Hawaii of state Health Department chief Loretta Fuddy in a plane crash. She was the official who waived state prohibitions and provided to the White House a copy of a document that Obama presented to the public as his birth certificate.

It’s the document that Arpaio’s investigators have concluded is fraudulent.

Amid conspiracy theories circulating the Internet, Zullo told WND Friday that Fuddy’s death – she was the only fatality among nine people aboard a small airplane that crashed off the coast of Molokai – appears to be a tragic accident, not foul play.

He said his investigation does not depend on any information from Fuddy.

In an interview today with author and talk-radio host Carl Gallups of PPSimmons News and Ministry Network and the author of “The Magic Man in the Sky,” and the new “The Rabbi who Found Messiah,” Zullo said his investigation of the Obama fraud case “does not hinge on Ms. Fuddy.”

“While her death certainly is a tragedy, it in no way hampers our investigation in this matter,” he said. “If people truly believe that her untimely demise was somehow related to an attempt to silence her for ‘what she may or may not know,’ then there are several more people in Hawaii who should be very, very concerned.

“Again, I want to emphasize,” Zullo said, “Sheriff Arpaio and I do not, at this time, believe her death was connected to any nefarious circumstances.”

The birth certificate dispute dates back to before the 2008 election. Critics, including Hillary Clinton, raised the issue about Obama’s status as a “natural-born citizen.” Not defined in the Constitution, it probably was thought at the time of the writing of the Constitution to be someone born of two citizen parents.

Obama fails that test because his father was a Kenyan student visiting the U.S.

Arpaio assigned his Cold Case Posse to look into the issue before the 2012 election, when constituents approached him and asked him to check whether Obama would be an ineligible candidate on the presidential election ballot.

In a recent radio interview with Gallups, Zullo affirmed the investigation had been expanded to the county sheriff’s office and was “moving in a direction that was not anticipated by us.”

“The whole issue is more nefarious than you can imagine,” Zullo said, crediting Arpaio for ordering the investigation and sticking with it.

“He knows in his gut that something is wrong,” Zullo said.

Dozens of lawsuits have been filed without success. One case is pending before the Alabama Supreme Court for which Zullo provided evidence.

Still a live issue

Zullo has testified that the White House computer image of Obama’s birth certificate contains anomalies that are unexplainable unless the document had been fabricated piecemeal by human intervention, rather than being copied from a genuine paper document.

“Mr. Obama has, in fact, not offered any verifiable authoritative document of any legal significance or possessing any evidentiary value as to the origins of his purported birth narrative or location of the birth event,” he explained. “One of our most serious concerns is that the White House document appears to have been fabricated piecemeal on a computer, constructed by drawing together digitized data from several unknown sources.”

Zullo also has noted that the governor of Hawaii was unable to produce an original birth document for Obama, and it should have been easy to find.

More recently, Grace Vuoto of the World Tribune reported that among the experts challenging the birth certificate is certified document analyst Reed Hayes, who has served as an expert for Perkins Coie, the law firm that has been defending Obama in eligibility cases.

“We have obtained an affidavit from a certified document analyzer, Reed Hayes, that states the document is a 100 percent forgery, no doubt about it,” Zullo told the World Tribune.

“Mr. Obama’s operatives cannot discredit Hayes,” the investigator told the news outlet. “Mr. Hayes has been used as the firm’s reliable expert. The very firm the president is using to defend him on the birth certificate case has used Mr. Hayes in their cases.”

The Tribune reported Hayes agreed to take a look at the documentation and called almost immediately.

“There is something wrong with this,” Hayes said.

Hayes produced a 40-page report in which he says “based on my observations and findings, it is clear that the Certificate of Live Birth I examined is not a scan of an original paper birth certificate, but a digitally manufactured document created by utilizing material from various sources.”

“In over 20 years of examining documentation of various types, I have never seen a document that is so seriously questionable in so many respects. In my opinion, the birth certificate is entirely fabricated,” he says in the report.

Investigator Douglas J. Hagmann of the Northeast Intelligence Network reported this month that in October an affidavit was filed in a court case, under seal, that purportedly identifies the creator of the Obama birth certificate.

He said Douglas Vogt, an author and the owner and operator of a scanning business who also has an accounting background, invested over two years in an investigation of the authenticity of document.

Vogt, along with veteran typesetter Paul Ivey, conducted “exhaustive research of the document provided to the White House Press Corps on April 27, 2011 – not the online PDF, a critical distinction that must be understood,” Hagmann said.

“Using their combined experience of 80 years in this realm, they conducted extensive examinations of the ‘copy’ that was used as the basis for the PDF document. They acquired the same type of equipment that was used back in the late 1950s and early 1960s in an attempt to recreate the document presented as an ‘authenticated copy’ proving the legitimacy of Barack Obama. Instead, they found 20 points of forgery on that document and detail each point of forgery in the affidavit,” wrote Hagmann.

“Even more interesting, Mr. Vogt claims to have identified the ‘signature’ of the perpetrator, or the woman who created the forged document, hidden within the document itself. Her identity, in addition to the identity of other conspirators and their precise methods are contained in a sealed document supplementing the public affidavit.”

Grounds for impeachment

Last month, WND columnist Christopher Monckton wrote that the controversy he calls “Hawaiigate” should be “the central ground of impeachment.”

“First, the dishonesty is shameless and in your face. Mr Obama’s advisers, once they realized the ‘birth certificate’ was as bogus as a $3 bill, knew that if they simply went on pretending that $3 bills are legal tender the hard-left-dominated news media would carefully and continuously look the other way, pausing occasionally to sneer at anyone who pointed out that, in this constitutionally crucial respect, the ‘president’ has no clothes,” Monckton wrote.

“Secondly, not one of the numerous agencies of state, as well as federal government, whose duty was and is to investigate the Mickey-Mouse ‘birth certificate’ has bothered even to respond to the thousands of requests for investigation put forward by U.S. citizens.”

He said that in Hawaii last year, he watched “as a senior former state senator called the police and, when they came, handed over to them compelling evidence that the ‘birth certificate’ had been forged.”

“The police, correctly, passed the file to the state’s attorney general, a ‘Democrat,’ who did nothing about it,” he said.

“In Washington, D.C., I watched as a concerned citizen from Texas telephoned the FBI and reported the ‘birth certificate’ as being a forgery. They said they would send two agents to see him within the hour. No one came.”

‘You tell me about eligibility’

One of the highest profile skeptics has been billionaire Donald Trump.

Trump said he can’t be certain that Obama is eligible to be president, and he pointedly noted that a reporter who was poking fun at the issue admitted he can’t, either.

Trump repeatedly has insisted Obama has not documented his eligibility. At one point, he offered $5 million to the charity or charities of Obama’s choice if he would release his passport records and authorize the colleges he attended to release his applications and other records.

Trump argues that those documents would show whether or not Obama ever accepted scholarship or other aid as a foreign student, which could preclude him from being a “natural-born citizen.”

Trump’s conversation with ABC’s Jonathan Karl started with Karl noting that Trump took on the “not serious” issue of eligibility.

“Why does that make me not serious?” Trump demanded. “I think that resonated with a lot of people.”

Karl replied: “You don’t still question he was born in the United States, do you?”

“I have no idea,” Trump said. “I don’t know. Was there a birth certificate? You tell me. You know some people say that was not his birth certificate. I’m saying I don’t know. Nobody knows, and you don’t know either. Jonathan you’re a smart guy, and you don’t know.”

When Karl admitted he was “pretty sure,” Trump jumped on the statement.

“You just said you’re pretty sure … you have to be 100 percent sure,” he said. “Jonathan, you said you’re pretty convinced, so let’s just see what happens over time.”

Among the many records the Obama camp has refused to release are the marriage license of his father (Barack Sr.) and mother (Stanley Ann Dunham), name change records (Barry Soetero to Barack Hussein Obama), adoption records, records of his and his mother’s repatriation as U.S. citizens from Indonesia, baptism records, Noelani Elementary School (Hawaii) records, Punahou School financial aid or school records, Occidental College financial aid records, Harvard Law School records, Columbia senior thesis, Columbia College records, record with Illinois State Bar Association, files from his terms as an Illinois state senator, his law client list, medical records and passport records.

Monckton, citing Zullo’s sworn affidavit in a court case, published a sworn mathematical analysis demonstrating the near-zero probability that the White House “birth certificate” is genuine.
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Dec 27, 2013 19:42:45   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Don't hold your breath until March, however, or even in April, because you'll get very red in the face, first from lack of oxygen and in April for having been so wrong.


Ah, Richard my boy....glad you could chime in. Liked your "hold your breath" joke.
Lets just hope we make it to March since Daily Drama Obama needs to speed up his plans with so many going against him now.
A tragic catastrophe may be needed to save him from.....well, himself!

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Dec 27, 2013 19:54:04   #
ElAku
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The Bible describes people like you, ElAku,
If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain. James 1:26

Proverbs 23:9 Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.

You've certainly proven that one! But I didn't waste my time, I just showed every reader that all your ilk are a Testimony against yourselves in The Sight of The Most High!

John 7:49 But this people who knoweth not the law are cursed.

Sunday 'worship'? 'praise Jesus?' 'Allahu Akbar?' Better READ HOLY LAW one more time!

1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

You bat 1,000 on that one too! 'worship?' 'praise?' You're back to HOLY LAW .. again … remember: neither The Most High NOR His Holy Law are going to change: and that includes the dates of the Sabbaths!

Anonymous Arabic Proverb:
He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool: Shun him. He who knows not, and knows that he knows not is simple: Teach him. He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep: Wake him. He who knows, and knows that he knows is wise: Follow him.

… and now a prophecy for you …

Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

The TESTIMONY of The Most High, Himself, isn't to be ignored or mocked!

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Dec 27, 2013 20:34:01   #
Richard94611
 
Please skip your religious crapola.


ElAku wrote:
Proverbs 23:9 Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.

You've certainly proven that one! But I didn't waste my time, I just showed every reader that all your ilk are a Testimony against yourselves in The Sight of The Most High!

John 7:49 But this people who knoweth not the law are cursed.

Sunday 'worship'? 'praise Jesus?' 'Allahu Akbar?' Better READ HOLY LAW one more time!

1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

You bat 1,000 on that one too! 'worship?' 'praise?' You're back to HOLY LAW .. again … remember: neither The Most High NOR His Holy Law are going to change: and that includes the dates of the Sabbaths!

Anonymous Arabic Proverb:
He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool: Shun him. He who knows not, and knows that he knows not is simple: Teach him. He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep: Wake him. He who knows, and knows that he knows is wise: Follow him.

… and now a prophecy for you …

Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

The TESTIMONY of The Most High, Himself, isn't to be ignored or mocked!
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Dec 27, 2013 20:35:10   #
Richard94611
 
Obama is president for the next few years, like it or not, and to conservatives and Republicans he can still and will still do a lot of damage, thank goodness.


bdamage wrote:
Ah, Richard my boy....glad you could chime in. Liked your "hold your breath" joke.
Lets just hope we make it to March since Daily Drama Obama needs to speed up his plans with so many going against him now.
A tragic catastrophe may be needed to save him from.....well, himself!

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Dec 27, 2013 20:39:46   #
Brian Devon
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Obama is president for the next few years, like it or not, and to conservatives and Republicans he can still and will still do a lot of damage, thank goodness.


Glad someone else on this site acknowledges reality. I think all the dissing of Obama and the chest-beating belies a fantasy of impeachment (& conviction & removal). Will never happen. The U.S. is zero for 44 on that one. People will just have to patiently wait their turn to vote in 2016.

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Dec 27, 2013 20:39:56   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Obama is president for the next few years, like it or not, and to conservatives and Republicans he can still and will still do a lot of damage, thank goodness.


It doesn't matter that Obama is president for what will be implemented.
Tell me the state you live in and I will inform you what REX84 FEMA camp you will be shipped to.
If you are unaware of what REX84 is, check it out:
http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/government/new_world_order/news.php?q=1220578507

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Dec 27, 2013 20:43:54   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
Brian Devon wrote:
Glad someone else on this site acknowledges reality. I think all the dissing of Obama and the chest-beating belies a fantasy of impeachment (& conviction & removal). Will never happen. The U.S. is zero for 44 on that one. People will just have to patiently wait their turn to vote in 2016.


Hello BD....Obama will NEVER be impeached and I never said he would. He could, however, be removed, but not by us. As long as he plays by the U.N.'s rules and does what he is told, he will be in office.

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