ElAku

Yep. Everything EXCEPT a delivery system ... probably for not 'believing' enough ...

True. And how many christians DISCERN "Jesus" as opposed to buying some hallelujah halfwit preacher's self-appointed - and equally NON-delivering 'doctrine'? True DISCERNMENT shows and history documents that Sunday is the FIRST day of the week, not the SEVENTH (Sabbath); and the letter "J" didn't even exist until 1349 AD documenting the name of "Jesus" didn't either!

WRONG! They're not looking for a "Jesus" they're looking for the MESSIAH - so they can murder him like they did as many of the previous Prophets and Anointeds as possible!

POPPYCOCK! Immanuel His CORRECT Title, was murdered for being WHO He was: the Anointed of His Generation; and both the Levite Priesthood and Roman Government were in on it.

WAKE UP CALL: 'belief' is NOT KNOWLEDGE! If you 'believe' so much: empty out the nearest hospital and stop by the nearest morgue or funeral parlor and raise the proven dead as promised in:

Matthew 21:21 Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.
Matthew 21:22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
John 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

John 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.
John 16:24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.

Muslims 'believe' the same thing and use dynamite to make their point, just like That Great MURDERING Babylonian Harlot at Rome and Constantinople did with a broadsword!

You're not. You can stop worrying about all those 'nonbelievers' most of whom are far-more righteous in The Sight of The Most High than all priests, preachers and other liars from the Pope down!

"Say?" Akurians KNOW there is: and His Name is NOT Jehovah, YawWay or any such! By HIS OWN revelation, His Name is ALIHA ASUR HIGH ... and He answers to no other!

YES! It was a STAKE, like a telephone pole ... the 'cross' was actually a "T" formation via the SIGN attached to the top, written in:
Mark 15:26 And the superscription of his accusation was written over, THE KING OF THE JEWS.
Luke 23:38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
John 19:19 And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS.
John 19:20 This title then read many of the Jews: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin.

At this point we somewhat agree ...

... back to those 'belief' DELUSIONS again ... Lucifer plays the likes of you as a cheap violin ...
KNOWLEDGE is what works, and all the 'belief' in creation doesn't work - and any speck of KNOWLEDGE works every time the same way for everybody.
Absolute verification for all who want it is available free-on-line without any entrapments whatsoever. The Akurians and The ANOINTED, The ELECT, and The DAMNED! No ifs, ands, buts or maybes.

Glad to be of clarification. And YES! I will defend everybody's Freedom OF and Freedom FROM Religion because all Akurians hold the Constitution and Bill of Rights as Holy Documents!

deb_bus Loc: fort worth and wichita falls tx, and houston

Your intellect gets in your way. I've known others like you. You base everything on intellect or knowledge. Knowledge is good. I'm not knocking it a bit. But I won't make it my god. Faith needs to be in there somewhere. At least for a Believer. You have faith in documents. I have faith in Yeshua which is the same as Jesus but the Hebrews spelled it that way originally since there was no 'j'. English translates it to Jesus. I'm writing you from my phone so I can't do all the fancy stuff like putting it in red and so forth. But you still haven't shaken my faith in the Lord because I know mankind has messed up so much concerning their beliefs and who Jesus Christ is and what he did for mankind. I just know what I know and been through a lot. And there is no doubt about God's saving grace. I could never live my life on intellect alone, apparently, like the Akurians. I have to feel something, too. And I do feel the Holy Spirit. I also feel your defensiveness and bad attitude. If things are so right for you, why the attitude towards me? And anger, too?

ElAku

You're way off base ... most people confuse 'belief' and KNOWLEDGE as being the same thing. They are not! KNOWLEDGE is not my God, The Most High is! And what He has taught the Akurians works every time, the same way, for everybody who tries it as instructed! No exceptions.

The simple challenge is clear, and I quoted it right out of YOUR reputed source of information, using the King James translation of the New Testament. YOUR doctrine, not mine ... if you AND your "Jesus" can't clean out the patient roster of the nearest hospital OR raise the proven dead, THAT FAILURE is either YOURS (because nobody can 'believe' enough) OR those 'scriptures' are damned lies.

The Akurian point of view is simple: If THE TESTIMONY of The Most High, Himself, to YOU PERSONALLY, isn't sufficient, what would be?

I also have an open question for ALL Christians: "Where is the DELIVERY SYSTEM stopping AND preventing all the wars these United States has been - and still is - involved in? It's damned sure been 'prayed about'! I've heard uncounted 'services' and 'prayers' to that effect since I remember the radio news of the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor - and have NOT seen one iota of delivery-cum-answer as asked!

World War II, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq ... name the fray ... NOT ONE DELIVERY! Zero.

The Most High DID NOT make such stupid 'promises' as found in the New Testament and THAT explains the non-delivery! In fact, The Most High will testify to the veracity of only NINE (9) Books in the KJV Holy Bible: the first five (Torah) Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy; Isaiah, Ezekiel and Daniel of the Prophets; and Revelation, the sole and exclusive book in the New Testament. All the rest have been altered from their original or are FORGERIES written around bits of grains of truth.

True, the rest DO contain grains of truth and should NOT be dismissed as totals - but when something works: it's TRUTH; and when something DOESN'T work: it's either being done wrong or it's a damned lie! All anyone has to do is TEST IT as advertised. No amount of 'belief' is going to change that ..

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

I have no clue what this convoluted gibberish is trying to say. Other than maybe professing a self-righteous attack on Christianity.

If your "Most high" is most high, then where is the most high DELIVERY SYSTEM? Why hasn't this remarkable god not "stopping AND preventing all the wars these United States has been - and still is - involved in?" Where was the "Most high" during World War II, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq?

Naturally, the "Most high" would try to debunk the NT. Like the Constitution challenges Obama's authority and the accurate Tyndale translation of the NT challenged the authority of king James, the Holy Bible challenges the authority of "Most high."

No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. Matthew 6:24

That name, "most high", is BTW, a most ambiguous name for a god. Sounds like an entirely metaphysical construct rather than a divinely inspired entity.

Of course we can allude to Star Wars.

ElAku

Blade_Runner (can't get this thing to c'n'p a quote properly)

Perhaps you don't 'believe' enough ....

The Most High didn't make those asinine biblical contents - That Great MURDERING Babylonian Harlot at Rome and Constantinople did!

.... you ought to SEARCH more and 'believe' less .... Just advice, I really don't give a damn one way or the other ...

deb_bus Loc: fort worth and wichita falls tx, and houston

Thank you blade runner for the info. I know nothing about the akurians, short of what I just read. And thank you for your insight that you revealed in the rest of your note to him. What you said makes sense to me a lot more than he did. Did you notice his anger that was so obvious to me? I don't see that he is at peace about his religion. I'm not as well worded in stating my comments. That's why his comments don't make sense to me. He uses intellect to try and get his ideas across. I know I don't always make sense, but I try. My faith stems from experience mostly. Not by what I've been told altogether. Of course I listen to teachers and preachers and am taught from that. But, my experience is what teaches me to have faith. He keeps talking about deliverance being that which is provable. Well I've living proof of real deliverance. And it came from the Lord Jesus. I don't have to be intellectual to know and believe what has happened with me. Intellect is not belief in my book. Intellect is book born and belief is experience related. That's the way I see it anyway. Thanx again for your input.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Again, I have no clue what you are talking about. But Thank God, and His glorious Son, Jesus, that the "Most high" had nothing to do with creating the Holy Bible.

And, please verify that the "Babylonian Harlot", whoever in hell she is, had anything to do with creating the Holy Bible.



Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:Matthew 7:7

Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost. Romans 15:13



I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there' and it will move." Matthew 17:20

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1

I'd continue "searching" if I thought it would do any good. Meantime, I'll keep on believing.

ElAku

Blade_Runner - I issue the same challenge to you that I did to deb_bus ---

Take your 'belief' and your 'Jesus' and cure all the patients in the nearest hospital or stop by the morgue or near-by funeral home and raise the proven dead!

NEITHER of you can do it, as you both damned well know.

I'll save you some research time by quoting from the King James translation of the Holy Bible:

Matthew 21:21 Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.
Matthew 21:22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
John 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

John 16:22 And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.
John 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.
John 16:24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.

The ball of DELIVERY is in your court ... unless you don't 'believe enough' ...

I'll buy the beer to celebrate anytime you can deliver!

And WHO is That Great MURDERING Harlot at Rome and Constantinople? Good (but totally stupid) question: WHAT is the only Global Church located there? Need a hint, or is your broom closet filled with infinite information?

FTR: I don't hate ... hold in extreme contempt, YES; but don't hate for the sake of hating. I have been known to DESPISE ... Marxists, Communists, Fascists, Socialists, Progressives, Politicians and their Manipulators, Priests, Preachers and other liars! But only because they are despicable ....

deb_bus Loc: fort worth and wichita falls tx, and houston

You didn't mention obama per say as being a liar. He's the number one liar right now. And I don't go and heal all the sick because that's not the gift I was given from the Holy Spirit. My gifts are the spirit of discernment and speaking in tongues. Now I bet that one really freaks you out. Anyway, if you are so sure of your most high, then why doesn't heal the sick and dying? Surely he's good for doing something positive. In fact, exactly what is your most high good for? Is it just a name. Or is he a person?

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

This challenge is a two way street. As in, what power to heal has the "most high" given you?

And, I really don't need you to quote passages from the Bible for me.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

As I understand akurianism, deb_bus, it is based in metaphysics, possibly a naturalistic, ontological, or scientific philosophy. I really don't know that much about it, and have no desire to learn. I do know that metaphysical based religion claims to be more "open-minded" than other religions, which, according to the metaphysicians, are all "close minded". Of course, Christians understand that this idea is completely bogus.

Keep the Faith. And, put on the Whole armor of God (Ephesians 6)

ElAku

Read The ANOINTED, The ELECT, and The DAMNED! the whole account is there to the absolute chagrin of all dyed-in-the-wool 'believers' ... all 500 pages of it. free to read on-line with no click-to-click-to-click nonsense, email, 'donation' or follow-up of any kind.

That which The Most High vested in me and all other Proven Knower Akurians is presented therein and TESTIFIED TO by The Most High, Himself ... so you can continue to call Him a liar with your hallelujah halfwit nonsense if you want.

At the risk of repeating myself: If the TESTIMONY of The Most High, Himself, to YOU PERSONALLY, isn't sufficient, what would be?

ElAku

Damned lies and Demonic Deceptions NEVER freak me out ... so try your 'expertise' on for size ... DISCERN the English Translation of "YESHAMA DELIAH! ASUM DE AL HMONGA!" ... clue, like my name "El Aku" it's Angelic! Can't do that either, can you? No hiding behind your BLASPHEMED 'holy ghost' now ....



Because of BLASPHEMY just like your comments! For those who want to KNOW ... the information is free on-line with no tracking .... good for? name? you fools are really reckless in your self-deluded superiorities , aren't you?

The Most High a person? A BEING Yes, as to what kind He has never said so nobody but He actually knows. He clearly says what He isn't: any incarnation as a son or otherwise ...

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Only 500 pages? I'll pass on reading that, thanks. Save myself from experiencing a bad case of that "absolute chagrin". :twisted:

Never heard him speak, never read a word he wrote, can't even imagine him, so, how do I call him a liar if I know absolutely nothing about him? However, this testimony of which you speak sounds similar to that of Mohammed--hence we now have to contend with "Allahu Akhbar".

Nope, the testimony, personal or otherwise, of a nameless god is insufficient.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

So, you're telling us that you really have no knowledge of who this "most high" IS, but only what he IS NOT. That's rather like trying to describe the taste of chocolate without ever having tasted chocolate.


Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Matthew 12: 31-32


Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation. Mark 3: 28-29


Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye. Acts 7:51


By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. John 13:35


Thought I'd share these as a way to preface a challenge. Quote something profound that comes from most high. Maybe something about what he isn't.