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A Day That Will Live in Infamy
Dec 7, 2016 05:28:12   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Today is the 75th anniversary of the Japanese sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, in which 2403 Americans were killed, 1178 were wounded, and four battleships were sunk. The attack commenced a little before 8 AM on a Sunday morning. Wikipedia has a pretty good synopsis.

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Dec 7, 2016 05:36:03   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
And they said, "Tora Tora Tora ", and woke up the sleeping giant.

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Dec 7, 2016 05:48:45   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
iFrank wrote:
And they said, "Tora Tora Tora ", and woke up the sleeping giant.


For the USA haters who castigate us for nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki, another fact which has nothing to do with today. Someone said here on OPP that the US embargo of Japan led to the attack. They forget what led to the embargo...... the Japanese invasion of China in which at least one million Chinese civilians were systematically and deliberately murdered in a terror campaign, and the countless millions more who were wounded, maimed, raped and robbed. For you idiots who bemoan our use of A bombs, bear in mind that the total Japanese casualties from these attacks were a little over 200,000. A fraction of what they did to the Chinese. Add to that an estimated one million Allied casualties had the land invasion of Japan taken place, and untold millions of Japanese civilians who would have fought to the death or committed suicide.

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Dec 7, 2016 07:01:13   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
I'm sure we were destined for joining the conflict even though the politicians were avoiding it, and since we were trying to avoid the bloodshed, I think that God didn't shelter us from Japan attacking us. I think that the politicians ignored the warning signs on the pending attack, and thanks to the Officers the aircraft carriers weren't at Pearl Harbour. If they were I'm not sure that the Allies could have come out Victorious.

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Dec 7, 2016 07:13:51   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Pearl Harbor was ingrained in my mind at an early age...well before hearing or reading of it in the history books in school.

December 7th, 1787 is also the date of Delaware becoming the first state to ratify the U.S. Constitution.

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Dec 7, 2016 07:39:20   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
iFrank wrote:
I'm sure we were destined for joining the conflict even though the politicians were avoiding it, and since we were trying to avoid the bloodshed, I think that God didn't shelter us from Japan attacking us. I think that the politicians ignored the warning signs on the pending attack, and thanks to the Officers the aircraft carriers weren't at Pearl Harbour. If they were I'm not sure that the Allies could have come out Victorious.









In the "Pearl Harbor" attack, "God sheltered" both United States, AND the Jews, who were then being rounded-up in Western Europe for extermination, iFrank. The "FAKE" news of those days were IN BOLD HEADLINES, praising Hitler as "The best thing to EVER happen to Germany," and "there was just a slight problem with the Jews" {NYT}. There were WELL advertised Nazi shindigs taking place at Carnegie Hall, Rockefeller Plaza and Radio City, with Swastikas and pictures of Adolf Hitler on all the podiums and walls, while SA, {Death Camp leaders} SS and SP Officers were presenting American Germans with fiery speeches and propaganda to try to convince the German Nationalists {"useful-idiots" and American Marxists} to go back to the victimized "Fatherland;" while the Marxist class that had then {late 30's early 40's} gotten their "nose-under-the-tent" of our American media, education, politics and entertainment, and were quietly turning boats from Europe {filled with escaping Jews}, back to the European "death/extermination" camps that were then being erected all over Western Europe, from Poland to France. How did the media miss this atrocity?? They DIDN'T. They were an integral part of it!!! Hummmmmmm. The "FAKE" news is happening AGAIN with the world-wide MSM, {"Marxstream" media}, and America is being quietly invaded by the new Nazi's, by the name of ISIS and radical Islam {at American taxpayer expense}, with the same anti-Semitic, "Little Satan and GREAT Satan" mentality, and the media is as silent about the current American mass-invasion as they were about the extermination of {primarily} the Jews, {in Europe}, at the hands of Hitler's/Mussolini's barbaric war machine!!! Donald J. Trump may well-be OUR current "Pearl Harbor," that is awakening the sleeping giant, AMERICA, again. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP!!! GOD BLESSED AMERICA AND THE FREE-WORLD!!! Now; "DRAIN THAT {RADICAL} SWAMP!!!"

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Dec 7, 2016 07:50:21   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Loki wrote:
Today is the 75th anniversary of the Japanese sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, in which 2403 Americans were killed, 1178 were wounded, and four battleships were sunk. The attack commenced a little before 8 AM on a Sunday morning. Wikipedia has a pretty good synopsis.

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Thank GOD that Americans at that time had more guts, more love of country, more integrity, more intelligence, more of EVERYTHING GOOD than exists today. If Japan bombed us today, it would probably take several months to get all liberals' opinion as to whether or not we should return fire, then it would take another few months to get the military ready and up to par after Congress debated for several weeks the feasibility of our winning/losing the war.

I have so much appreciation for Americans of yesteryear and so much disdain for Americans of today that it would be funny were it not so tragic that the nation has fallen so far into the gutter. I am sure there was some "progressivism" back then, but nothing can compare with the snowflake citizenry of today. Everyone can, in my humble opinion, blame the '60s hippy invasion and devolution, the mass introduction of illegal drugs, and Hanoi Jane Fonda for what our country has become......a wimpy nasty weak failing nation seriously raped by the political left that suffers no morality, no goodness.

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Dec 7, 2016 08:03:05   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
Tasine wrote:
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Thank GOD that Americans at that time had more guts, more love of country, more integrity, more intelligence, more of EVERYTHING GOOD than exists today. If Japan bombed us today, it would probably take several months to get all liberals' opinion as to whether or not we should return fire, then it would take another few months to get the military ready and up to par after Congress debated for several weeks the feasibility of our winning/losing the war.

I have so much appreciation for Americans of yesteryear and so much disdain for Americans of today that it would be funny were it not so tragic that the nation has fallen so far into the gutter. I am sure there was some "progressivism" back then, but nothing can compare with the snowflake citizenry of today. Everyone can, in my humble opinion, blame the '60s hippy invasion and devolution, the mass introduction of illegal drugs, and Hanoi Jane Fonda for what our country has become......a wimpy nasty weak failing nation seriously raped by the political left that suffers no morality, no goodness.
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I did a little thread about Pearl Harbor, Tasine, and related President-elect Donald Trump to the NEW "Pearl Harbor," who has again "woken-up the sleeping giant, America," with the continuing, 24/7/365, anti-Trump antics of the MSM {"Marxstream" media}. The "FAKE" news was alive then {mid to late '30's, to December 7, 1941!!!}, as it is today!!! And NOW seems to be saving America {and Israel}, as Pearl Harbor ACTUALLY saved the Jews; and gave them Israel!!! The MSM could no longer (D)eceive America about Hitler/Nazi's, {after the Pearl Harbor attack}, and the MSM can no longer (D)eceive America about the new Nazi invasion of our "Shining Light on the Hill," by the name of ISIS and radical Islam, {after the TRUMP ATTACK}!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP!!! GOD BLESSED AMERICA AND THE FREE-WORLD!!! And now; "DRAIN THAT {RADICAL} SWAMP!!!"

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Dec 7, 2016 08:46:32   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
robmull wrote:
I did a little thread about Pearl Harbor, Tasine, and related President-elect Donald Trump to the NEW "Pearl Harbor," who has again "woken-up the sleeping giant, America," with the continuing, 24/7/365, anti-Trump antics of the MSM {"Marxstream" media}. The "FAKE" news was alive then {mid to late '30's, to December 7, 1941!!!}, as it is today!!! And NOW seems to be saving America {and Israel}, as Pearl Harbor ACTUALLY saved the Jews; and gave them Israel!!! The MSM could no longer (D)eceive America about Hitler/Nazi's, {after the Pearl Harbor attack}, and the MSM can no longer (D)eceive America about the new Nazi invasion of our "Shining Light on the Hill," by the name of ISIS and radical Islam, {after the TRUMP ATTACK}!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP!!! GOD BLESSED AMERICA AND THE FREE-WORLD!!! And now; "DRAIN THAT {RADICAL} SWAMP!!!"
I did a little thread about Pearl Harbor, Tasine, ... (show quote)

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You're totally right about the media and the political left being unable to deceive us today, assuming your reference "us" being conservatives, right wingers. IT deceives the uneducated, illiterate leftists all the time as it does the illegal alien voters. IOW, it is deceiving all those who welcome ISIS into our midst, right? Or are they merely homegrown murderers who welcome ISIS onto American soil? THAT AIN'T GOOD.

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Dec 7, 2016 12:54:32   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
robmull wrote:
In the "Pearl Harbor" attack, "God sheltered" both United States, AND the Jews, who were then being rounded-up in Western Europe for extermination, iFrank. The "FAKE" news of those days were IN BOLD HEADLINES, praising Hitler as "The best thing to EVER happen to Germany," and "there was just a slight problem with the Jews" {NYT}. There were WELL advertised Nazi shindigs taking place at Carnegie Hall, Rockefeller Plaza and Radio City, with Swastikas and pictures of Adolf Hitler on all the podiums and walls, while SA, {Death Camp leaders} SS and SP Officers were presenting American Germans with fiery speeches and propaganda to try to convince the German Nationalists {"useful-idiots" and American Marxists} to go back to the victimized "Fatherland;" while the Marxist class that had then {late 30's early 40's} gotten their "nose-under-the-tent" of our American media, education, politics and entertainment, and were quietly turning boats from Europe {filled with escaping Jews}, back to the European "death/extermination" camps that were then being erected all over Western Europe, from Poland to France. How did the media miss this atrocity?? They DIDN'T. They were an integral part of it!!! Hummmmmmm. The "FAKE" news is happening AGAIN with the world-wide MSM, {"Marxstream" media}, and America is being quietly invaded by the new Nazi's, by the name of ISIS and radical Islam {at American taxpayer expense}, with the same anti-Semitic, "Little Satan and GREAT Satan" mentality, and the media is as silent about the current American mass-invasion as they were about the extermination of {primarily} the Jews, {in Europe}, at the hands of Hitler's/Mussolini's barbaric war machine!!! Donald J. Trump may well-be OUR current "Pearl Harbor," that is awakening the sleeping giant, AMERICA, again. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP!!! GOD BLESSED AMERICA AND THE FREE-WORLD!!! Now; "DRAIN THAT {RADICAL} SWAMP!!!"
In the "Pearl Harbor" attack, "God ... (show quote)


How can we make American citizens patriotic to our Country, it seems that some "new citizens" are more patriotic then most "democratic" citizens. I know it's not possible but I would like to see the "on earth as it is in heaven" scenario here in this God Blessed Country. These low level traitor either by design or accident are really dragging us down in the moral aspect as also in the financial scene, example if they can't pay for it, pass a bond so the can have it now. To me it's disheartening and disgusting.

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Dec 7, 2016 14:11:38   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
iFrank wrote:
How can we make American citizens patriotic to our Country, it seems that some "new citizens" are more patriotic then most "democratic" citizens. I know it's not possible but I would like to see the "on earth as it is in heaven" scenario here in this God Blessed Country. These low level traitor either by design or accident are really dragging us down in the moral aspect as also in the financial scene, example if they can't pay for it, pass a bond so the can have it now. To me it's disheartening and disgusting.
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Those who are dragging us down have existed for decades, but exited their socialist closets once Obama was elected. Now that they have outed themselves, it is hard to re-enter the closet with everyone KNOWING who they are.. If they totally lose via this election, and they know they have, life will not be the same for them for decades yet to come. They are in panic mode, so much so that they risk jail time just to make a "point" that says "me, me, me,me, me, me". I'll tell them exactly what Obama told us conservatives: "We will be the ones in charge an the left wingers can go to the back of the bus".

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Dec 7, 2016 14:27:51   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
Tasine wrote:
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Those who are dragging us down have existed for decades, but exited their socialist closets once Obama was elected. Now that they have outed themselves, it is hard to re-enter the closet with everyone KNOWING who they are.. If they totally lose via this election, and they know they have, life will not be the same for them for decades yet to come. They are in panic mode, so much so that they risk jail time just to make a "point" that says "me, me, me,me, me, me". I'll tell them exactly what Obama told us conservatives: "We will be the ones in charge an the left wingers can go to the back of the bus".
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The best of the best case scenario, Yes you nailed it, and i guess people will be people, but in silence they will still be undermining our Country, and thats what get me started, Just saying.

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Dec 7, 2016 14:53:52   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
If y'all want to read the definitive account of the attack on Pearl Harbor, read Gordon W. Prange's At Dawn We Slept: The Untold Story of Pearl Harbor. Prange spent 37 years researching this book during which he interviewed every surviving Japanese officer, pilot, and government official and every American involved, both military, government official and civilian. This is the most thorough documentation in existence, it has no equal.

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December 8, 1941. American Sailors honor their dead on Oahu beach.
December 8, 1941. American Sailors honor their dea...

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Dec 7, 2016 14:55:06   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
If y'all want to read the definitive account of the attack on Pearl Harbor, read Gordon W. Prange's At Dawn We Slept: The Untold Story of Pearl Harbor. Prange spent 37 years researching this book during which he interviewed every surviving Japanese officer, pilot, and government official and every American involved, both military, government official and civilian. This is the most thorough documentation in existence, it has no equal.

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Thanks for the tip.

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