Reaganite Loc: Missouri

Hey Bo, how about following your own directions!

In this case, however, I don't see how the post you are referring to proves your point.

It was short, and very polite, albeit, sarcastic.

If I remember correctly, you are the one on this forum using such terms as "Fat Limburgh", "Faux News" and "Teatards" when referring to anyone with a conservative opinion.

Reaganite Loc: Missouri

As a liberal, how do feel about the president's performance so far?

Also, what are your thoughts on Benghazi, Fast and Furious, Voter ID, Voter intimidation by the New Black Panthers, etc., etc., in other words, all the scandals this administration has been involved in???

BoJester

But I have NEVER used the terms Obastard, Obummer, Obutthead, Moooshelle, libtard, Pelousy, Dingy Harry etc. And these were terms in use before I joined in the name calling.
Wise up and tell the truth

Loki Loc: Georgia

They are only scandals if Conservatives are involved.

Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE

Welcome. Interested in your thoughts.

I am one of Bojester's "most disagreeable and intolerant types who have nothing but hatred for liberals, and cannot let a day go by without some Obama bashing and telling ridiculous lies about he and his family." (From his perspective, but they are not lies.)

angery american Loc: Georgia

Welcome : To bad you are a liberal, but perhaps being exposed to some intelligent conservative viewpoints, will help you to become a better person....Also most folks in here are very honest and nice. BUT when you read a post from Bojester be sure to pinch you nose while you read or else you may be overcome by the smell....LOCK AND LOAD...angery outttt

Loki Loc: Georgia

Bienvenidos. Out of curiosity, why do you consider yourself a liberal? No offense, but the word "liberal" derives from the Latin "liber," meaning freedom. I'm curious as to why you would think that voluntarily ceding individual freedom to governmental control increases said freedom for you or anyone else?

xlindsaydurham

Thanks all for the kind welcomes. I'll be polite but opinionated. Someone asked how I felt about Obama's performance so far, I'd give him a B-. I consider myself an amateur economist (I only took a couple of courses in econ in college while getting a business degree.) Still I read economics articles all the time and subscribe to the Economist mag.
I think what the tea party activists don't consider is the harm their policies do to the economy. In a time of recession the government should spend more to get things going and in boom times pay off the deficit. What's so hard to understand about that?
Lindsay

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Nothing. It's just not palatable to many. :roll:

xlindsaydurham

Hi banjojack,
I consider myself a liberal because I use the term in the vernacular rather than the rigorous definition. That said, I do think we must cede some liberties for the good of all. Economic freedom is one of the most important freedoms we have. Had we spent more during the recession it would have been over sooner. Most economists I've read will attest to that. Now isn't the time to pay down the debt. After the recession is completely over and we have full employment will be better.
Lindsay

TroubleshooterTim Loc: People's Republic of Oregon

Welcome to the forum, Lindsay. Don't be hesitant to jump in posting into the topics, start your own, and lets learn from each other.
The Economist magazine is a good read. Perhaps including other economists outside of the keynesian model might provide some additional depth.
It is a spirited group here and I've found opinions can be strongly held, and I look forward to posting with you.

Loki Loc: Georgia

I don't follow. Which liberties should we cede, and how would this be for the good of us all? While I agree with your premise of economic freedom, I still do not agree with spending your way out of debt. If this worked, our debt would not have tripled in the last five or six years. You cannot just increase revenue, if you increase spending at a greater rate. The actual unemployment rate is more like ten percent. The doctored figures the government pundits quote are simply a reduction in the number of people applying for and/or receiving unemployment benefits. Under this fairy tale accounting, anyone who stops receiving unemployment for whatever reason is deemed employed. People on disability are the same. People who lose their jobs and do not qualify for unemployment benefits for whatever reason are not counted, nor are the huge number of people who have been reduced from full to part time employment. According to the Bureau of Labor stats for this year, as of August, nearly 80% of the "jobs created" are part time. A large number of the remaining 20% are of the "want fries with that?" minimum wage variety. Exactly how spending money we don't have, and reducing the number of people in full time other than minimum wage jobs is going to end a recession is something I have not figured out.

Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA

I knew there was some reason I liked you!!

Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA

Welcome aboard and welcome to "Proper Speak 101" I, too, wore a badge that said Liberal and proud of it when I first began engaging with others on OPP. I now avoid using it any more for two reasons, one of which is to not give anyone so inclined extra ammunition to lob my way, and the second, after settling in and putting my listening ears on, sometimes reading posts that have challenged my way of thinking, I have changed my mind about how and why I think something. I have given up labels. Guess I have discovered labels aren't really important, it's what is in your heart.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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The thing that government can legally and morally do to help business MOST, is to provide a comfortable atmosphere in which that business can operate. The government would do the MOST good by staying out of the business world. Every time Congress acts, it removes more and more freedoms, which cost businesses and individuals more and more of their income. This does not produce a business oriented atmosphere that encourages businesses to take the risks they MUST take to grow and survive. Every time Congress mucks around with minimum wage, which is not designed to be a living wage and SHOULD NOT BE DESIGNED to be a living wage, it drives up the cost of goods, of shipment, of storage, of fuel, of all other wages. It is a vicious circle that destroys business and morale within the nation. Minimum wage was designed to be a stepping stone, a first job to get youngsters started - and it has malignantly morphed into a family support job - and we see the results. Businesses closing down, cities dying, businesses moving said business out of the country, families stretched to the limit economically - and then because it does no good, it has to be done again and again and again and again because some people never learn what isn't working. They insist more of what damaged us will, if pushed far enough, make us well and whole again. It won't. Constantly repeating what fails again and again is well known as insanity. Government intervention is the worst enemy business has - until said business can participate in government graft, a tool well known to politicians.