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Nov 25, 2016 20:16:26   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
straightUp wrote:
I was referring the impression *I* get and then you said the same could be said of me. LOL

That's OK.. I know what you meant to imply, but it's hard to be offended. You guys are so cute. All like "grrr". LOL


One of my favorite authors said it best....."The impression I get of you is that if you were half as smart as you think you are, you'd be twice as smart as you actually are."
One more thing: It's time someone explained to you the difference between lose and loose. Repeated misspellings and/or misuse of the two words indicate ignorance rather than a typo or two.

Lose means to misplace, or be bested in something. Loose, on the other hand, means the opposite of tight or tighten, or it can be used to mean "to set free." If these explanations do not suffice, may I suggest a dictionary of your choice.

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Nov 25, 2016 20:42:08   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
straightUp wrote:
The UN? You really think the UN is the big concern regarding globalization? Have you even heard of the WTO?


Gibberish. You have no idea what I just said or what it meant, so you argue for the sake of arguing. Meditate on it for a while.

Yes...I'm aware of the WTO and that economic integration precedes political integration. Ever hear of the Common Market? Old trick.

Seriously...you're trying too hard to appear smart. While I don't doubt you're smart, it isn't smart to try so hard to sound that way you don't digest what anyone else says

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Nov 25, 2016 21:33:18   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Worried for our children wrote:
There's also nothing in the clause that says anything about the prohibition of a plutocracy, oligarchy, or any other such form of government, it does however *guarantee* that each state will have a republican form of government. Which means nothing other than a republican form would be acceptable. So, yes, it actually does prohibit a democracy.

I wasn't attempting to take sides in your disagreement with another poster.

The point I agreed with is that the word democracy doesn't have to mean a 100% democracy where there are no elected representatives voting on our behalf.

As I see it, the word democracy includes the free election of the people's representatives in Congress and the Electoral College, as well as a fully democratic voting process for the election of state and local offices.

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Nov 25, 2016 23:49:19   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
Super Dave wrote:
I wasn't attempting to take sides in your disagreement with another poster.

The point I agreed with is that the word democracy doesn't have to mean a 100% democracy where there are no elected representatives voting on our behalf.

As I see it, the word democracy includes the free election of the people's representatives in Congress and the Electoral College, as well as a fully democratic voting process for the election of state and local offices.


My bad, Dave. I didn't mean to make it sound like I thought you were taking sides, that wouldn't bother me at all. I just wanted to be clear what Article IV, section 4, says. I probably should've responded (or more accurately "re"- responded) to StraightUp's comment. I appreciate your elaborating on your comment though, thanks. 👍

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Nov 26, 2016 04:21:53   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Worried for our children wrote:
My bad, Dave. I didn't mean to make it sound like I thought you were taking sides, that wouldn't bother me at all. I just wanted to be clear what Article IV, section 4, says. I probably should've responded (or more accurately "re"- responded) to StraightUp's comment. I appreciate your elaborating on your comment though, thanks. 👍


Np

Yw

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Nov 26, 2016 14:39:06   #
JimMe
 
straightUp wrote:
Look... mike... every side blames the other for things... The Republicans have spent 8 year blaming Obama for the wars he didn't start and the economy he didn't crash. All I was saying is that with Republicans in total control of the government, it won't be so easy to blame Democrats for everything that happens next. But I realize the folly of what I said. Republicans... wait, let me be more accurate... the ill-informed and over-agitated folks on the right will ALWAYS find a way to blame liberals for everything that's wrong.
Look... mike... every side blames the other for th... (show quote)




And "... the ill-informed and over-agitated folks on the Left will ALWAYS find a way to blame Conservatives for everything that's wrong..."

This is Politics and always has been...

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Nov 26, 2016 19:49:32   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
JimMe wrote:
And "... the ill-informed and over-agitated folks on the Left will ALWAYS find a way to blame Conservatives for everything that's wrong..."

This is Politics and always has been...


The Electoral College is another safe guard against a manipulated "democracy".
Out Founding Fathers knew how a "democracy" could be used against the common citizens.
They gave us a Republic, to protect us from thieves.

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Nov 26, 2016 21:41:59   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
eagleye13 wrote:
The Electoral College is another safe guard against a manipulated "democracy".
Out Founding Fathers knew how a "democracy" could be used against the common citizens.
They gave us a Republic, to protect us from thieves.


I'll go along with that.

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