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Nov 2, 2016 20:24:00   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
I was just informed that if Hillary is elected President, she can lawfully pardon herself for all the crimes she committed, as well as the crimes of all of her associates? Isn't politics wonderful?

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Nov 2, 2016 21:03:14   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
I was just informed that if Hillary is elected President, she can lawfully pardon herself for all the crimes she committed, as well as the crimes of all of her associates? Isn't politics wonderful?


Requires prior adjudication and does not extend to State Courts for Federal crimes (Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors) a President must be impeached first and removed from office after being tried and convicted. No pardon because she would no longer be President. Impeachment is akin to a grand jury finding. Kaine would probably do it so she wouldn't end up in jail.

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Nov 2, 2016 21:37:41   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
pafret wrote:
Requires prior adjudication and does not extend to State Courts for Federal crimes (Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors) a President must be impeached first and removed from office after being tried and convicted. No pardon because she would no longer be President. Impeachment is akin to a grand jury finding. Kaine would probably do it so she wouldn't end up in jail.


You sure about that? By adjudication, I assume you meant charges being filed and her standing trial? That is not required for a pardon. As a matter of fact, Nixon could have pardoned himself, but he didn't.

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Nov 2, 2016 22:30:44   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
I was just informed that if Hillary is elected President, she can lawfully pardon herself for all the crimes she committed, as well as the crimes of all of her associates? Isn't politics wonderful?


But who will pardon you, my friend?

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Nov 2, 2016 22:52:08   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
PaulPisces wrote:
But who will pardon you, my friend?


No worries. Jesus pardoned me.

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Nov 2, 2016 23:06:25   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
No worries. Jesus pardoned me.


Does he have standing with the Supreme Court?😎

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Nov 2, 2016 23:08:10   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
You sure about that? By adjudication, I assume you meant charges being filed and her standing trial? That is not required for a pardon. As a matter of fact, Nixon could have pardoned himself, but he didn't.


Nixon was impeached but not convicted, he resigned. Ford pardoned him and you raise an interesting point, how was Ford able to pardon someone who was not convicted? However, impeachment does not remove a President from office because he must be convicted. The writings I have seen all indicate a conviction is needed. Another interesting point, if Hillary is impeached and could possibly pardon herself she would still be prosecuted and jailed under NY state law. Her "charity" has definitely violated New York State law before and not been prosecuted but if a Rico style charge could be made Federally, it would also be illegal action in New York. Of course, this is NY, the home of the Dummycrats so I won't hold my breath.

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Nov 3, 2016 13:05:59   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
kenjay wrote:
Does he have standing with the Supreme Court?😎


Why are you dragging the Supreme Court into this? I haven't done anything illegal.

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Nov 3, 2016 13:07:46   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
pafret wrote:
Nixon was impeached but not convicted, he resigned. Ford pardoned him and you raise an interesting point, how was Ford able to pardon someone who was not convicted? However, impeachment does not remove a President from office because he must be convicted. The writings I have seen all indicate a conviction is needed. Another interesting point, if Hillary is impeached and could possibly pardon herself she would still be prosecuted and jailed under NY state law. Her "charity" has definitely violated New York State law before and not been prosecuted but if a Rico style charge could be made Federally, it would also be illegal action in New York. Of course, this is NY, the home of the Dummycrats so I won't hold my breath.
Nixon was impeached but not convicted, he resigned... (show quote)


Interesting.

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Nov 3, 2016 15:54:16   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
Why are you dragging the Supreme Court into this? I haven't done anything illegal.

Just wondering with some of their rulings if they still believe in Jesus.

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Nov 3, 2016 15:54:58   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
Interesting.

Also a fact.

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Nov 3, 2016 16:39:03   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
kenjay wrote:
Also a fact.


I didn't claim otherwise. I simply stated that is was interesting.

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Nov 3, 2016 17:39:35   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
I didn't claim otherwise. I simply stated that is was interesting.

I realize that I was just making it an interesting fact. I actually think you are one of the more honest an intelligent posters Little Ball.😇😎

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Nov 3, 2016 17:44:06   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
kenjay wrote:
I realize that I was just making it an interesting fact. I actually think you are one of the more honest an intelligent posters Little Ball.😇😎


Nah. I'm just your slightly above average internet troll. That's not saying much, considering the level of competition.

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Nov 3, 2016 17:56:05   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
Nah. I'm just your slightly above average internet troll. That's not saying much, considering the level of competition.

I just know you are talking about turdnest and such. Glad you are here.😊

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