lorddwarf Loc: Linden, Va

What is it about the liberal psyche that makes them want to control all human behavior? Or, if they can't control it, destroy it? There are the minor (in a global sense) vandalisms, destruction of Trump signs, keying and egging of cars with Trump bumper stickers, creating disturbances at Trump campaign events. All because they can't control (yet) all political speech. (I have yet to see one news story about destruction or vandalism of a pro-Clinton anything.)
On a bigger scale, The Occupy movement and groups like Black Lives Matter think nothing of destroying entire communities. When was the last time that conservative groups rioted in the streets? Again, since they can't always control law enforcement, and some municipal governments, destruction is their answer.
On the national level, liberals now control most of the governmental agencies that come into contact with the public, the IRS, the EPA, the FCC. These organizations are in the process of destroying conservative organizations, our energy grid, and our ability to communicate freely. They control our two biggest law enforcement agencies, the FBI and the Justice Department, thereby having no watchdogs to contest their control or stop the destruction. They can't completely control the military, so they have destroyed both its military readiness and its obligations to our veterans. They can't yet control big finance (too big to fail just means to big to control) although the Warren ultra-liberals want to break up the big banks; thereby making them easier to control. (As an aside, Hillary Clinton will not attack the financial industry, that's her golden goose.)
Finally, as any engineer will tell you, over control of any system ultimately results in the destruction of that system through its inability to self correct (negative feedback). As proof I offer public education, which has been mostly destroyed in all jurisdictions where the liberal unions are in charge; it's impossible to get rid of an incompetent teacher. Of course, they're trying to control or destroy all forms of private education, charter schools and religious schools.
So, I repeat my question, what is it about the liberal psyche that makes them want to control everything, and destroy that which they can't control?

JW

They know they're right, therefore the ends justify their means.

Airforceone

Amazing take republican failed agenda and blame Democrats. This is an outstanding post very well articulated . The only problem is take the word liberal and change it to conservative and then you have it right. The Republcan agenda is to create an all white society and turn our government over to the corporate elite. I can tell you have not read one piece of legislation that has been obstructed by the right wing. You have not read any legislation created by the right wing. It amazes me how your ideology allows you to just sit back and blame every GD problem in this country had been created by the left.

The GOP has always been brilliant at blaming a failed agenda blame it on democrats. You were absolutely brilliant Blaming the Bush recession on democrats. You were absolutly brilliant at blaming the explosion of the Debt on Democrats. Bush tax cuts $6 trillion in lost federal funds unpaid for, $3.6 Trillion on two wars unpaid for, $750 billion in Tarp bailout unpaid for, $500 billion on Medicare Part D unpaid for, Bush presidency ends at 7.9% unemployment and loosing 850,000 jobs a month lost tax funds to the federal government and blame it on democrats. You are brilliant you're post was great just change the name to conservatives.

Now where has the democrats destroyed military readiness give me an example. You blamed ISIS on democrats the republican Bush signed that status of forces agreement. Which every republican fails to acknowledge exists and what that status of forces actually means. But ISIS is Obama fault. With you comment it lacks anything that resembles facts. The military is still receiving the funds they need. Give me an example.

Education is being destroyed by Unions that lacks ANYKIND of facts I am sure you have no idea that republicans have been cutting funds for public education to pay for corporate tax breaks and destroy collective bargaining. The republicans have continuously raised interest rates on PELL grants in order to prevent all kids a chance at higher education. You have blocked every infrastructure bill in order to upgrade American schools. You want to turn our schools over to for profit charter schools and turn public education into a voucher program. Now the main focus on education is (FOR PROFIT) not (EDUCATION) to further turn this country over to the corporate elite.

Show me where the democrats are trying to destroy private schools that is stupid statement and lacks ANYKIND of facts. Democrats believe in our public education system. They believe in every kid having an equal opportunity for a education.. Destroying collective bargaining turning our public education over to for profit charter schools is the right wing agenda.

Republican agenda to turn everything over to the corporate elite.
Create charter schools with no regulations that's republican agenda eliminate regulations on our corporations.
Turn SS over to the corporate elite with no regulations.
Turn Medicare into a voucher program and turn all healthcare over to the corporate elite. Non regulated.
Eliminate unions and the collective bargaining allow corporate elite to determine wage and price control.
Increase oil company subsidies and remove all regulation.
Lower corporate tax rate down to 15% and keep all corporate loopholes in place.
Continue with the tax loophole of tax inversion
Continue with tax deduction for corporation moving manufacturing overseas and allow them to HDR there profits in offshore accounts.
Eliminate the EPA
Eliminate Medicaid
Eliminate school lunch programs
Repeal the ACA
Refuse to discuss ANYKIND of gun control

Republicans in the last 71/2 years have obstructed Immigaration reform, comprehensive tax reform, American jobs act, refused a min wage increase, obstructed congress to fix ACA problems by saying no they want a flat out repeal before discussing a replacement plan.

So your post was very articulated but you lack any kind of facts and it defies ANYKIND of common sense.

When I read your post I do understand your ideology f hate for everything that made this country great in order to turn this country over to the corporate elite.

It's not liberals or conservative it's our system of government that allows flat out lies and not being held accountable for there lies. We allow these stupid conspiracy theories to be posted that are just foolish and only an idiot can buy into that garbage. Your ideology allows you to write a post and blame democrats but I understand one thing you can twist and turn the liberal agenda and not even read one piece of legislation. I am sure you never read legislation sponsored by or co sponsored by Hilliary Clinton or her voting record.

Over the last 50 years I have read trade agreements sponsored by the right wing the republicans 100% agree with our trade agreement along with a small majority of democrats. Now we have sexual predator that pays zero taxes telling the American people that all these trade agreements were created by democrats. Bush 41 nogotiated NAFTA signed the NAFTA agreement he was leaving office when the agreement went to congress. 100% of all republicans and a hand full of democrats in the house voted yes. The NAFTA bill went to the senate and 100% of republicans voted yes to NAFTA and again they were able to get enough democrats to make the bill filibuster proof and veto proof. Clinton had no choice he had to sign the bill, but it just so happened Clinton does agree with international trade.
But here we are in an election cycle that every trade agreement is Obama and Clinton fault. When and at what time did the right wing run from trade agreements.
But the right wing is brilliant when it comes to your own failed agenda and blame democrats.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

If you look carefully, ignoring the stuff you happen to like, you'll find that both the left AND the right - do the same things and for the same reasons. Would you be this upset, if the stuff that was being forced down everyone's throat, was stuff YOU agreed with? If you're honest and answer "no", then you're as big a problem as any liberal.

I am non partisan and a Centrist and don't want the left OR the right telling me what I may or may not do. I don't want anyone deciding what MY morals will be, what I will believe or not believe, or anything else that affects me personally. Stay out of my bedroom, home, bank account, computer and life - and I'll be happy. I have a God given and Constitutionally guaranteed right to life, liberty and to pursue happiness - and I don't want YOU or anyone else deciding what that will be or what it will NOT be. I'll decide for myself thank you.

lorddwarf Loc: Linden, Va

Interesting post. It doesn't answer the question I asked, I did not refer to Democrats or Republicans anywhere in my post, and it in no way refutes any of my arguments either specifically or generally.

Except, the public school problem. This is something I know a little about, having been a public school teacher for 36 years. That the federal gov't. is trying to control public education is beyond argument, Common Core is just the latest example. For examples of liberal attacks on charter schools, study the current attempts at regulating charters in liberal bastions like DC and New York City or every attempt to cut public funds to parochial schools. And since you referenced a lack of spending on public schools by Republicans, lets continue with the DC example. A city totally controlled by liberals for several generations has the highest per pupil spending in the country and by every metric used to measure educational success, is a miserable failure at educating its citizens.

So, without the bombast, answer my question. Why do liberals have to control every aspect of our lives or destroy what they can't control.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Dwarf,

I can not give you an answer to a question that has no truth in it as a root.

You express your own feeling as facts. What you ignore is that what you state in the question is false..

when you have your thinking in order, perhaps you can restate into something that deals with specifics and not simply a generality which is not true..

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

That's pretty chickenshit for you frosty. Which is unlike you. If you are basically going to call some one a liar you should point out the lie.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

J,

He may or may not be lying, I can not give any kind of argument unless he can rephrase the question... If that happens, I may give it a shot.

As for now, it will simply hang in the air..

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Then you should point out what you disagree with. You're good at that.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Dwarf,

I my never ending striving to keep J functioning, I am going to try and make some sort of half fast answer to your post..

Skipping most of it and getting right to the education part, I have 2 major points for you to give some thought too.

One--If you are talking about textbook content and usage, you must lay that blame on the great state of Texas.. Texas has by far the most influence on book publishers and a very strong conservative board to approve what is and is not in text books. The publishers in turn will print books to match the huge orders from Texas, then rather the using a new format, the will simply print the same book Texas uses for all the other orders they fill. Hence the content of the nations books are dictated by the state of Texas.. So blame the Texans if this is something that rubs you raw...

two---A war against private, home, church and parochial schools. I can not speak for more then the state of Minnesota on this, maybe other states are different... But for us all those schools are given support. the per pupel spending tends to be greater then average in many of the small schools with limited enrollment.. Home schooling does have guide lines for minimum levels of accomplishment. That as well as time constraints have made it common for much home schooling to be done via group teaching. Often students move house to house on various days of the week. The results are generaly very good for both students and parents..

Also, home students can and do participate in extra curricular activities with a nearby public school. These include sports as well as plays, social events and class trips..

So, I must say that in our state at least the education is quite good at all of these levels..