Little Ball of Hate

You really are incredibly dense. That verse was talking about human behavior. I swear. Talking to you is like talking to a rock, but less interesting.

MsCentralia

A2: okay. Outnumbered on this issue does not have any weight. A2 does not serve me. My perspective on A2 is objective and reasonable. Written English has definitive order. I was addressing that order--and that means the right for a citizen to keep and bear arms is solely and completely based on a "well-regulated militia." Absolutely! (The Alamo was outnumbered: were they wrong?)

You paranoid people need to get clear how terribly appalling is the gun violence in America--terribly, terribly appalling--instead of focusing on black helicopters coming to confiscate all guns. You are killing thousands by your ungrounded fear every year. Abortion is wrong and you gun-nuts are right there with that horror. Your objections are totally disgusting and irrational.

MsCentralia

Lol, how does the sentence "nothing new under the sun" deal strictly with human behavior? Take it in context in the OT and try to defend that absurdity. I do not insult you. I have never insulted you, no matter how much we disagree. Why insult me? You have your view and I have mine. Does insulting mean you win? If you were a talking rock, I would listen. "The rocks and stones themselves started to sing." Sorry, I do not get the need for insult. What is gained? Insulting makes you look dumb and foolish, the only thing you can offer instead of thought.

Little Ball of Hate

No insults. Merely stating a fact. Read this. You might learn something.

A generation goes, and a generation comes,
but the earth remains forever.

The sun rises, and the sun goes down,
and hastens to the place where it rises.

The wind blows to the south
and goes around to the north;
around and around goes the wind,
and on its circuits the wind returns.

All streams run to the sea,
but the sea is not full;
to the place where the streams flow,
there they flow again.

All things are full of weariness;
a man cannot utter it;
the eye is not satisfied with seeing,
nor the ear filled with hearing.

What has been is what will be,
and what has been done is what will be done,
and there is nothing new under the sun.

Is there a thing of which it is said,
“See, this is new”?
It has been already
in the ages before us.

There is no remembrance of former things,
nor will there be any remembrance
of later things yet to be among those who come after.

Reading and navigating Ecclesiastes can be confusing and perplexing, if we neglect this simple working premise: Solomon is dramatically describing life here on earth, and the folly of that existence when God is left out. No matter how exciting life may seem to be “under the sun,” ultimately, it has no value without God.

In the above section, there is really a simple thought reported by the writer: When life here on earth is lived without God, it is really soon to become very boring. This is a poetic expression that says, for all of man’s efforts against the reality of God, he gains nothing; earthly activities are repetitive and unfulfilling.

http://www.bible.ca/ef/expository-ecclesiastes-1-4-11.htm

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

And the right to bear arns protects the people from those agencies.

Like maybe the BLM? They would never do anything wrong would they? Besides murder someone I mean. I think next time they will need a different approach.

Because people have the right to bear arms.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

You are correct. Much better to ignore you. Problem solved.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

Where does A2 talk about regulating firearms?

PeterS

Where did I say the framers would disallow firearms? Under King George the principle means of suppressing the colonies came through the Kings freestanding army. This is why the intent was to keep our freestanding army small and our Militia large so the government could never pose a threat. The only point that I am making is that by creating the largest military possible, countered by a make believe militia, we've disregarded the original intent of the second amendment nothing more.

That doesn't mean that guns wouldn't be allowed for hunting and protection--which is an entirely different topic. No where in the Second Amendment is hunting and protection addressed but is more an inferred right necessary for survival...

PeterS

If government lacks the ability to regulate arms than any arm manufactured should be available to any and everyone one correct. One of the principle responsibilities of government is the protection of its citizens, which is why government would have a right to regulate the type of arms we can have, if only to limit our ability to maliciously cause harm to others...

Little Ball of Hate

The only regulations necessary should be that one be a citizen of a certain age, of sound mind and body, and no criminal background. Anything more is unconstitutional. You see, the reason we have all of these gun related murders is because of large minority populations in democrat controlled cities. Most of these murders happen in just a handful of cities. All of them run by Democrats. Do you see the connection? If you leave out the murders in those cities, America would be one of the safest countries in the world. Try to spin that.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

If, as you allege, A2 says citizens are not allowed to.keep and bear arms, those arms would by law have to be confiscated.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

That would be the equivalent of a Gestapo which is why A2 gives citizens the right to keep and.bear arms.

Little Ball of Hate

Guns are not the problem. The problem is those individuals who use them to commit crimes. Mostly, it's minorities in democrat controlled cities. There are many cities where they have high numbers of gun owners, yet we see very little crime. There are also many cities with tough gun control laws, yet they are war zones. These are undeniable facts. How do you explain this?