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Oct 14, 2016 15:14:56   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
MsCentralia wrote:
The media is violating the Constitution by publishing Clinton's--or anyone else's--illegally hacked emails.

"For example, the first amendment allows the privacy of beliefs, the third amendment protects privacy of the home against any demands to be used to house soldiers, the fourth amendment protects the privacy of a person and possessions from unreasonable searches, and the 5th Amendment gives privacy of personal information through preventing self-incrimination.

"Furthermore, the 9th Amendment says that the enumeration of certain rights as found in the Bill of Rights cannot deny other rights of the people. While this is a vague statement, court precedent has said that the 9th amendment is a way to justify looking at the Bill of Rights as a way to protect the right to privacy in a specific way not given in the first 8 amendments."

http://constitution.laws.com/right-to-privacy

Hacking and then publishing the results by the media violates the 4th Amendment as an unreasonable search and seizure, as well as the 5th Amendment that gives privacy of personal information through preventing of self-incrimination.

It seems rather odd and very troubling to me that no one, Left or Right, even questioned the right of the press to violate privacy in this way. Have we become so scared or numb or cynical that such an outrageous invasion of privacy goes unnoticed? The Patriot Act and its indiscriminate citizen spying for our "protection" is a stake in the heart of this Republic. IT MUST GO! The evidence of how it has changed our basic perception of freedom, fundamental to maintaining this country's ideals of liberty, is clear in not a single voice objecting to the publication by the media of Hillary's, or any person's, private communications.
The media is violating the Constitution by publish... (show quote)


Sorry! The Cat Has Left The Bag! The leak, some say, are Intelligence Community folks who know the hag is a HUGE security risk and don't want her in office. Since her policies have put us eyeball to eyeball with the Russians who are doing nuclear war drills now while we talk about stupid stuff, I say worry about the details later and focus on the 8000 lb gorilla...do we follow the fools into the NWO and WWIII or do we take a step or 5 back and watch the fur fly from a distance?

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Oct 14, 2016 15:26:29   #
Owl32 Loc: ARK
 
in fact she destroyed government property........... this is the reason when you as an official of the government anything you do on the job is property of your employer.....this is the reason personal business should never be mixed wikth government work..she should have severed all ties to her and bills private work when she excepted the position of Secretary of State.
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
If it was a private email, you would be correct. However, she used that same email to conduct government business. So it's fair game.

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Oct 14, 2016 17:16:19   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
MsCentralia wrote:
Thank you for the Moron alert. Privacy is privacy. Illegally gained information, of a public or private person, is against the Constitution. I am sure you are one of those people that claim to be a patriot and loyal to our founding documents. Please read them. I would not vote for Hillary with your vote. I am not making a case to protect Hillary from exposure over her irresponsible use of a home server for classified documents; she should go to jail. I am making a case for you and every citizen. We are so inured over violations of privacy that we fail to see this blatant abuse by the media in publishing PRIVATE MESSAGES. Trump had a bitter taste of that recently. "In private" used to be so sacred that the mere hint of impropriety would cause a tsunami of reaction; not a ripple with Hillary.

Hillary is the victim now and many may throw parties in celebration at the illegal disclosures, even elaborate fireworks, but you are next. Or maybe you over there.
Thank you for the Moron alert. Privacy is privacy.... (show quote)


Consider for a moment why media.published.

Much of.these document dumps were legally obtained through the FOIA. Of those that were not, the hacker(s) may have sent them to the media. How else would the media have acquired them if it was not from media hacks?

So, if the dumps were sent to the media, the media would then be in a position to publish or not. If they chose to not.publish, the hacker(s) could.have dumped them on the net along with documentation showing they had been.previously sent to media, and media sat on them to protect Hillary. That could destroy media's credibility which could end up damaging Hillary worse than the documents themselves because it could render further Trump bashing null and further Hillary support to become a negative.

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Oct 14, 2016 17:22:27   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
Docadhoc wrote:


So, if the dumps were sent to the media, the media would then be in a position to publish or not. If they chose to not.publish, the hacker(s) could.have dumped them on the net along with documentation showing they had been.previously sent to media, and media sat on them to protect Hillary. That could destroy media's credibility


LOL! What credibility?

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Oct 14, 2016 17:24:48   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
rjoeholl wrote:
Wasn't it liberal policy that said "If you see something, say something."?


Yeah.....another failed liberal policy!
My wife won't hardly take me out in public because of it!

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Oct 14, 2016 18:43:17   #
vernon
 
Docadhoc wrote:
Consider for a moment why media.published.

Much of.these document dumps were legally obtained through the FOIA. Of those that were not, the hacker(s) may have sent them to the media. How else would the media have acquired them if it was not from media hacks?

So, if the dumps were sent to the media, the media would then be in a position to publish or not. If they chose to not.publish, the hacker(s) could.have dumped them on the net along with documentation showing they had been.previously sent to media, and media sat on them to protect Hillary. That could destroy media's credibility which could end up damaging Hillary worse than the documents themselves because it could render further Trump bashing null and further Hillary support to become a negative.
Consider for a moment why media.published. br br ... (show quote)



the media has no credibility now.anyone who pays attention know the lies the media has been spinning.

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Oct 14, 2016 19:33:22   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
MsCentralia wrote:
Thank you for the Moron alert. Privacy is privacy. Illegally gained information, of a public or private person, is against the Constitution. I am sure you are one of those people that claim to be a patriot and loyal to our founding documents. Please read them. I would not vote for Hillary with your vote. I am not making a case to protect Hillary from exposure over her irresponsible use of a home server for classified documents; she should go to jail. I am making a case for you and every citizen. We are so inured over violations of privacy that we fail to see this blatant abuse by the media in publishing PRIVATE MESSAGES. Trump had a bitter taste of that recently. "In private" used to be so sacred that the mere hint of impropriety would cause a tsunami of reaction; not a ripple with Hillary.

Hillary is the victim now and many may throw parties in celebration at the illegal disclosures, even elaborate fireworks, but you are next. Or maybe you over there.
Thank you for the Moron alert. Privacy is privacy.... (show quote)


You fail to know ANY PUBLIC OFFICIAL and their emails are OPEN to the PUBLIC. It is called PUBLIC RECORD. There is NO RIGHT TO PRIVACY other than her PERSONAL emails....and she decided to do all her emails on a server that is OPEN to the PUBLIC because she used her server for WORK!

You are a very confused person. I would suggest you do not further yourself in an area of law that you certainly are clueless about. Thus..my MORON ALERT stays on you....

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Oct 14, 2016 19:34:06   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
archie bunker wrote:
Yeah.....another failed liberal policy!
My wife won't hardly take me out in public because of it!


Burger night? Haha!

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Oct 14, 2016 19:37:04   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
Owl32 wrote:
in fact she destroyed government property........... this is the reason when you as an official of the government anything you do on the job is property of your employer.....this is the reason personal business should never be mixed wikth government work..she should have severed all ties to her and bills private work when she excepted the position of Secretary of State.


You have that correct for sure! Further as I posted the work product is open to the public as it is public record...she has no expectancy of privacy and actually she should have been charged no matter what....she admits that she had things erased end of story. Comey gave her a free pass....as did Obama's henchman...(henchwoman) Lynch!

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Oct 14, 2016 20:50:22   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
America Only wrote:
Burger night? Haha!


Pretty much!

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Oct 14, 2016 20:54:02   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
America Only wrote:
You have that correct for sure! Further as I posted the work product is open to the public as it is public record...she has no expectancy of privacy and actually she should have been charged no matter what....she admits that she had things erased end of story. Comey gave her a free pass....as did Obama's henchman...(henchwoman) Lynch!


Let me drive out tomorrow, and take a picture of the PANTEX plant tomorrow, and post it online.
What will happen to me then?

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Oct 14, 2016 22:02:57   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
archie bunker wrote:
Let me drive out tomorrow, and take a picture of the PANTEX plant tomorrow, and post it online.
What will happen to me then?


What will happen to you, Arch? Your poop will well and truly be "in the wind", you post that pic...

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Oct 14, 2016 22:32:47   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
MsCentralia wrote:
The media is violating the Constitution by publishing Clinton's--or anyone else's--illegally hacked emails.

"For example, the first amendment allows the privacy of beliefs, the third amendment protects privacy of the home against any demands to be used to house soldiers, the fourth amendment protects the privacy of a person and possessions from unreasonable searches, and the 5th Amendment gives privacy of personal information through preventing self-incrimination.

"Furthermore, the 9th Amendment says that the enumeration of certain rights as found in the Bill of Rights cannot deny other rights of the people. While this is a vague statement, court precedent has said that the 9th amendment is a way to justify looking at the Bill of Rights as a way to protect the right to privacy in a specific way not given in the first 8 amendments."

http://constitution.laws.com/right-to-privacy

Hacking and then publishing the results by the media violates the 4th Amendment as an unreasonable search and seizure, as well as the 5th Amendment that gives privacy of personal information through preventing of self-incrimination.

It seems rather odd and very troubling to me that no one, Left or Right, even questioned the right of the press to violate privacy in this way. Have we become so scared or numb or cynical that such an outrageous invasion of privacy goes unnoticed? The Patriot Act and its indiscriminate citizen spying for our "protection" is a stake in the heart of this Republic. IT MUST GO! The evidence of how it has changed our basic perception of freedom, fundamental to maintaining this country's ideals of liberty, is clear in not a single voice objecting to the publication by the media of Hillary's, or any person's, private communications.
The media is violating the Constitution by publish... (show quote)

Tough shit Clinton cares nothing for the rule of law why should the media.



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Oct 14, 2016 22:37:54   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
MsCentralia wrote:
First of all, my thread has nothing whatsoever to do with Hillary, Secondly, only because it is pertinent to the point I am trying to make, personal emails were also exposed in her email revelations. Hate Hillary, fine. Wish her the worse, fine. Put her in jail, fine. But what I am saying is not about Hillary but our right--OUR RIGHT--to privacy. Stop being defined in thought and action to a particular ideology.

Hillary's emails was on a private server, used both (foolishly) for government and personal stuff.
First of all, my thread has nothing whatsoever to ... (show quote)

It has everything to do about Hillary why else post it. If it was Donald Trump we would not behaving this conversation.

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Oct 15, 2016 00:10:14   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Little Ball of Hate wrote:
LOL! What credibility?


Hey, I'm just trying here...lol.

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