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Oct 6, 2016 20:30:25   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 
Meet, Andrew Spieles, a student at James Madison University, and apparently a Lead Organizer for HarrisonburgVOTES.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user230519/imageroot/2016/09/29/20160930%20-%20VA%20Voters%202.JPG

According to the Daily News-Record, Spieles confessed to re-registering 19 deceased Virginians to vote in the 2016 election cycle.

While this should come as a surprise to precisely 0 people, Spieles just happens to be Democrat who, accorded to a deleted FaceBook post, apparently recently ran for Caucus Chair of the Virginia Young Democrats.

See next post for even more.



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Oct 6, 2016 20:36:04   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 
Approximately 24 million, one of every eight, voter registrations in the United States are no longer valid or are significantly inaccurate.

More than 1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters.

Approximately 2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.


Then there is Arcan Cetin, the 20 year old Turkish citizen who recently killed 5 people at the Cascade Mall in Washington, somehow managed to vote in the past 3 election cycles despite not being a U.S. citizen. When asked about the news, Washington Secretary of State, Kim Wyman, simply said "we don’t have a provision in state law that allows either county elections officials or the Secretary of State's office to verify someone’s citizenship."

Sure, because why would someone's citizenship status be important for determining his eligibility to vote?



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Oct 6, 2016 20:58:21   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 
Of course there are lots of other examples of this kind of thing happening around the nation. In the swing state of Colorado, an investigation has uncovered a “very serious” pattern of dead people actually casting votes in multiple elections. One has to wonder how long this has been going on…

Local officials in Colorado acknowledged “very serious” voter fraud after learning of votes cast in multiple elections under the named of recently-deceased residents.

A local media outlet uncovered the fraud by comparing voting history databases in the state with federal government death records. “Somebody was able to cast a vote that was not theirs to cast,” El Paso County Clerk and Recorder Chuck Broerman told CBS4 while discussing what he called a “very serious” pattern of people mailing in ballots on behalf of the dead.

It’s not clear how many fraudulent ballots have been submitted in recent years. CBS4 reported that it “found multiple cases” of dead people voting around the state, revelations that have provoked state criminal investigations.

It also turns out that dead people have been voting in California. In fact, one dead man in the state has been casting votes since 2004, and authorities have found “hundreds” of similar examples…

“He took a lot of time choosing his candidates,” said Annette Givans of her father, John Cenkner.

Cenkner died in Palmdale in 2003. Despite this, records show that he somehow voted from the grave in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008 and 2010.

But he’s not the only one.

CBS2 compared millions of voting records from the California Secretary of State’s office with death records from the Social Security Administration and found hundreds of so-called dead voters.

http://www.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/17/2012/05/21/112157_600.jpg

Who is it so scared of the truth that they would outlaw presenting a photo id to vote?

In the swing state of Pennsylvania, an investigation has found dozens of instances where illegal immigrants have been allowed to vote in recent elections…

http://jokes.conservativepapers.com/files/2010/05/cartoon61.jpg

Do these instances of voting fraud make you angry

If so, that is good, because they should. Countless numbers of Americans have laid down their lives to give us the right to vote, and the people behind this vote fraud are making a mockery of their sacrifices.

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Oct 7, 2016 08:10:44   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
ghostgotcha wrote:
Meet, Andrew Spieles, a student at James Madison University, and apparently a Lead Organizer for HarrisonburgVOTES.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user230519/imageroot/2016/09/29/20160930%20-%20VA%20Voters%202.JPG

According to the Daily News-Record, Spieles confessed to re-registering 19 deceased Virginians to vote in the 2016 election cycle.

While this should come as a surprise to precisely 0 people, Spieles just happens to be Democrat who, accorded to a deleted FaceBook post, apparently recently ran for Caucus Chair of the Virginia Young Democrats.

See next post for even more.
Meet, Andrew Spieles, a student at James Madison U... (show quote)




On February 4, 2012, a jury found White guilty of six of seven felony charges, including false registration, voting in another precinct, submitting a false ballot, theft, and two counts of perjury. He was acquitted on one fraud charge. The felony convictions automatically removed White from office, though he presumably could have regained the post if his convictions had been downgraded to misdemeanors and Rosenberg's ruling awarding the office to Osili had been overturned on appeal. Governor Daniels immediately appointed White's deputy, Jerry Bonnet, as interim Secretary of State.
On February 23, Hamilton County Superior Court Judge Steven Nation sentenced White to one year of house arrest, 30 hours of community service and a $1,000 fine. Nation refused to downgrade White's charges to misdemeanors, saying that his actions in the 2010 election were deliberate and therefore "violated the trust of the people." The conviction ends any chance of White regaining office even if his appeal of Rosenberg's ruling is successful.
White lost all of his appeals in state courts and began serving his one-year home-detention sentence in October, 2015. In July, 2016, White's law license was suspended for two years.



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Oct 7, 2016 08:14:04   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
ghostgotcha wrote:
Meet, Andrew Spieles, a student at James Madison University, and apparently a Lead Organizer for HarrisonburgVOTES.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user230519/imageroot/2016/09/29/20160930%20-%20VA%20Voters%202.JPG

According to the Daily News-Record, Spieles confessed to re-registering 19 deceased Virginians to vote in the 2016 election cycle.

While this should come as a surprise to precisely 0 people, Spieles just happens to be Democrat who, accorded to a deleted FaceBook post, apparently recently ran for Caucus Chair of the Virginia Young Democrats.

See next post for even more.
Meet, Andrew Spieles, a student at James Madison U... (show quote)


That's what been happening in this country. Right is wrong, wrong is right, etc. Unfortunately, the Dems/libs seem to be controlling societal norms due to the vast number of people that want "free stuff" and the young idealist college kids that are indoctrinated and don't know any better. Not to mention the MSM that perpetuates this crap at every turn.

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Oct 7, 2016 08:33:36   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
snowbear37 wrote:
That's what been happening in this country. Right is wrong, wrong is right, etc. Unfortunately, the Dems/libs seem to be controlling societal norms due to the vast number of people that want "free stuff" and the young idealist college kids that are indoctrinated and don't know any better. Not to mention the MSM that perpetuates this crap at every turn.


...aren't you an idealist, just a different kind of idealist?

Do you think that all progressives want free stuff...like not paying their federal taxes for years...

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Oct 7, 2016 08:39:59   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
On February 4, 2012, a jury found White guilty of six of seven felony charges, including false registration, voting in another precinct, submitting a false ballot, theft, and two counts of perjury. He was acquitted on one fraud charge. The felony convictions automatically removed White from office, though he presumably could have regained the post if his convictions had been downgraded to misdemeanors and Rosenberg's ruling awarding the office to Osili had been overturned on appeal. Governor Daniels immediately appointed White's deputy, Jerry Bonnet, as interim Secretary of State.
On February 23, Hamilton County Superior Court Judge Steven Nation sentenced White to one year of house arrest, 30 hours of community service and a $1,000 fine. Nation refused to downgrade White's charges to misdemeanors, saying that his actions in the 2010 election were deliberate and therefore "violated the trust of the people." The conviction ends any chance of White regaining office even if his appeal of Rosenberg's ruling is successful.
White lost all of his appeals in state courts and began serving his one-year home-detention sentence in October, 2015. In July, 2016, White's law license was suspended for two years.
On February 4, 2012, a jury found White guilty of ... (show quote)


Why not finish it White was removed from his post !

How many Demo's are removed for doing the same thing ?

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Oct 7, 2016 08:41:55   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
I find it interesting that it's the Demo's that always fight against voter photo ID's everything we do now days demand a photo ID !

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Oct 7, 2016 09:59:54   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
On February 4, 2012, a jury found White guilty of six of seven felony charges, including false registration, voting in another precinct, submitting a false ballot, theft, and two counts of perjury. He was acquitted on one fraud charge. The felony convictions automatically removed White from office, though he presumably could have regained the post if his convictions had been downgraded to misdemeanors and Rosenberg's ruling awarding the office to Osili had been overturned on appeal. Governor Daniels immediately appointed White's deputy, Jerry Bonnet, as interim Secretary of State.
On February 23, Hamilton County Superior Court Judge Steven Nation sentenced White to one year of house arrest, 30 hours of community service and a $1,000 fine. Nation refused to downgrade White's charges to misdemeanors, saying that his actions in the 2010 election were deliberate and therefore "violated the trust of the people." The conviction ends any chance of White regaining office even if his appeal of Rosenberg's ruling is successful.
White lost all of his appeals in state courts and began serving his one-year home-detention sentence in October, 2015. In July, 2016, White's law license was suspended for two years.
On February 4, 2012, a jury found White guilty of ... (show quote)


Six felony convictions should mandate disbarment!!

Yes, DB we see how the system works for the elite only...Exactly what we are fed up with!!Regardless of which now non existent party it is, it's a mockery to the most sacred right we have and is damned disgusted...Charge them and put them in jail, period...Should be a felony charge anyway...it's a Federal violation!!

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Oct 7, 2016 10:53:11   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
...aren't you an idealist, just a different kind of idealist?

Do you think that all progressives want free stuff...like not paying their federal taxes for years...


My ideals are based on practical experience. Most of the college kids have little or no experience regarding the way the world works. Once they get a job or start a business, they think differently about giving their earnings away to people that didn't earn them. If you never worked, you don't have any "skin in the game".

Not ALL progressives. Most of the people that want "free stuff" (which is really not "free") are not "progressives". People that want the so-called "free stuff' aren't "progressives" or "conservatives", their goal is to "vote" for those that will provide them with "fee stuff". Usually that's the progressives.

Yes, Trump got a deferment from paying Federal taxes for a few years. But, what you libs keep forgetting to say is that this is a LEGAL part of our tax code and is used by thousands of people every year, Liberal and Conservative alike.

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Oct 7, 2016 11:36:54   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
snowbear37 wrote:
My ideals are based on practical experience. Most of the college kids have little or no experience regarding the way the world works. Once they get a job or start a business, they think differently about giving their earnings away to people that didn't earn them. If you never worked, you don't have any "skin in the game".

Not ALL progressives. Most of the people that want "free stuff" (which is really not "free") are not "progressives". People that want the so-called "free stuff' aren't "progressives" or "conservatives", their goal is to "vote" for those that will provide them with "fee stuff". Usually that's the progressives.

Yes, Trump got a deferment from paying Federal taxes for a few years. But, what you libs keep forgetting to say is that this is a LEGAL part of our tax code and is used by thousands of people every year, Liberal and Conservative alike.
My ideals are based on practical experience. Most ... (show quote)


As did Hillary in her shown 2015 tax return but that's " not news"...

What is, is hypicritical and yes, obliterates one of the Democrats’ biggest talking points.

Forgetting it's legal to do is to skew their position, snowbear..

If it were legally wrong (moral questions aside), deductions simply wouldn’t be allowed under the federal tax code. But they are allowed, and Americans are expected to take advantage of them … else why would they have ever been passed into law in the first place?

Don't we take full advantage of all deductions that we can?? Aren't we legally entitled to them??

Of course, the coup de grâce in this entire made-up controversy is that Hillary Rodham Clinton also filed on her taxes exactly as she’s accusing Donald Trump of doing..

If it is wrong then change the laws , that simple...But don't condemn the ones using them for simply using them!!

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Oct 7, 2016 12:24:24   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
lindajoy wrote:
As did Hillary in her shown 2015 tax return but that's " not news"...

What is, is hypicritical and yes, obliterates one of the Democrats’ biggest talking points.

Forgetting it's legal to do is to skew their position, snowbear..

If it were legally wrong (moral questions aside), deductions simply wouldn’t be allowed under the federal tax code. But they are allowed, and Americans are expected to take advantage of them … else why would they have ever been passed into law in the first place?

Don't we take full advantage of all deductions that we can?? Aren't we legally entitled to them??

Of course, the coup de grâce in this entire made-up controversy is that Hillary Rodham Clinton also filed on her taxes exactly as she’s accusing Donald Trump of doing..

If it is wrong then change the laws , that simple...But don't condemn the ones using them for simply using them!!
As did Hillary in her shown 2015 tax return but th... (show quote)


Hi there Lindajoy I've been absent as business is starting to pile up !
I think I liked your other avatar better LOL

Hillary is counting on people like dummy boy to not understand that she indeed did the same thing as Donald and the rest of the taxpayer do by carrying forward losses !

More than likely dummy boy is probably a burger flipper and thus has no idea how the tax structure was written nor how it was meant to be used !

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Oct 7, 2016 12:55:29   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
4430 wrote:
Hi there Lindajoy I've been absent as business is starting to pile up !
I think I liked your other avatar better LOL

Hillary is counting on people like dummy boy to not understand that she indeed did the same thing as Donald and the rest of the taxpayer do by carrying forward losses !

More than likely dummy boy is probably a burger flipper and thus has no idea how the tax structure was written nor how it was meant to be used !


Welcome back 4430..

In fairness to DB I have to say, he has not really addressed his thinking of Hillary doing the same that I M aware of..

I was speaking more on all of us using the legal loopholes and why not???

Does aggregate me anout all the exceptions given hills while she does the same ..Karma has away of catching up is all I can say...

Going to be changing my avi soon..have a few to use .....

Have a great day!!

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Oct 7, 2016 13:06:40   #
Gener
 
ghostgotcha wrote:
Of course there are lots of other examples of this kind of thing happening around the nation. In the swing state of Colorado, an investigation has uncovered a “very serious” pattern of dead people actually casting votes in multiple elections. One has to wonder how long this has been going on…

Local officials in Colorado acknowledged “very serious” voter fraud after learning of votes cast in multiple elections under the named of recently-deceased residents.

A local media outlet uncovered the fraud by comparing voting history databases in the state with federal government death records. “Somebody was able to cast a vote that was not theirs to cast,” El Paso County Clerk and Recorder Chuck Broerman told CBS4 while discussing what he called a “very serious” pattern of people mailing in ballots on behalf of the dead.

It’s not clear how many fraudulent ballots have been submitted in recent years. CBS4 reported that it “found multiple cases” of dead people voting around the state, revelations that have provoked state criminal investigations.

It also turns out that dead people have been voting in California. In fact, one dead man in the state has been casting votes since 2004, and authorities have found “hundreds” of similar examples…

“He took a lot of time choosing his candidates,” said Annette Givans of her father, John Cenkner.

Cenkner died in Palmdale in 2003. Despite this, records show that he somehow voted from the grave in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008 and 2010.

But he’s not the only one.

CBS2 compared millions of voting records from the California Secretary of State’s office with death records from the Social Security Administration and found hundreds of so-called dead voters.

http://www.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/17/2012/05/21/112157_600.jpg

Who is it so scared of the truth that they would outlaw presenting a photo id to vote?

In the swing state of Pennsylvania, an investigation has found dozens of instances where illegal immigrants have been allowed to vote in recent elections…

http://jokes.conservativepapers.com/files/2010/05/cartoon61.jpg

Do these instances of voting fraud make you angry

If so, that is good, because they should. Countless numbers of Americans have laid down their lives to give us the right to vote, and the people behind this vote fraud are making a mockery of their sacrifices.
Of course there are lots of other examples of this... (show quote)



The people who get elected is most often the people the elite WANT elected.this has been going on for years. Voter fraud is rampant on both sides, but is especially geared toward making sure the candidate who (secretly) most supports the New World Order gets elected. Nobody in their right mind believes that the bucket of votes that were found in Florida when George Bush was running were really "found." They were there all along "just in case." That is just the way it is, and the new electronic voter machines can be completely controlled, and votes can be reversed. It gets worse every year, til now, we are in real trouble.

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Oct 7, 2016 19:27:35   #
okie don
 
Gener wrote:
The people who get elected is most often the people the elite WANT elected.this has been going on for years. Voter fraud is rampant on both sides, but is especially geared toward making sure the candidate who (secretly) most supports the New World Order gets elected. Nobody in their right mind believes that the bucket of votes that were found in Florida when George Bush was running were really "found." They were there all along "just in case." That is just the way it is, and the new electronic voter machines can be completely controlled, and votes can be reversed. It gets worse every year, til now, we are in real trouble.
The people who get elected is most often the peopl... (show quote)


As I've read, the voters 'elect' them but the PTB 'select ' them.
I think the votes are simply a POLL.
I think the 'Electoral College ' Delegates and 'SUPER delegates' select' them.

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