Check out topic: OPP Poll:..........Guns VS Fentanyl..
Not all conservatives are blinded by the Trump light
Oct 2, 2016 17:01:43 #
cesspool jones
Loc: atlanta
working class stiff wrote:
Another stellar contribution...thank you
thank the Constitution. Vote democratic?...then the Constitution iz nothing but toilet paper to shitstains who actually think they're Americans. Semper FI dickbreath!
Oct 2, 2016 18:25:47 #
working class stiff wrote:
True enough , in theory. It does seem, however, that recently the power of Congress to act has come to a grinding halt and the Executive is picking up that unused duty. Executive orders have become the legislative body apparently. And let's be honest here....it's not Obama breaking the rules. He is following precedent, and has had fewer executive orders than his immediate predecessors. Congress seems to have abdicated it's duties.
The number of executive orders are not as important as to what they are and what they do.
Executive orders are there for carrying out the laws passed by congress.
The president has no right to write or rewrite the law using executive orders.
Oct 2, 2016 20:34:41 #
Homestead wrote:
Well said.The number of executive orders are not as important as to what they are and what they do.
Executive orders are there for carrying out the laws passed by congress.
The president has no right to write or rewrite the law using executive orders.
Executive orders are there for carrying out the laws passed by congress.
The president has no right to write or rewrite the law using executive orders.
Check out topic: "One in Three Chance of Civil War"
Oct 2, 2016 22:40:59 #
Oct 2, 2016 22:45:35 #
working class stiff wrote:
Call bullshit all you want, but you don't know what Trump will do.
And you can't stop me from having America, since I'm here and a proud citizen. You could see a therapist about your anger issues.
And you can't stop me from having America, since I'm here and a proud citizen. You could see a therapist about your anger issues.
Poor little conservatives been getting their ass kicked in the culture war and just can take it. ums are going to bump is head on the floor like their guru Trump
Oct 2, 2016 22:45:48 #
cesspool jones
Loc: atlanta
Nickolai wrote:
Well said
Well saidI see spots, the lines on the road just look like dotz.
Oct 2, 2016 22:49:13 #
cesspool jones
Loc: atlanta
Nickolai wrote:
Poor little conservatives been getting their ass kicked in the culture war and just can take it. ums are going to bump is head on the floor like their guru Trump
I saved this to prove how fucking stupid and dangerous you far-left assholes are...you will pay for this homemade extreme bullshit.
Check out topic: Good news for Trump
Oct 3, 2016 09:49:01 #
working class stiff
Loc: N. Carolina
eagleye13 wrote:
The Russian people backed the Bolsheviks; having no idea what they were.
BTW; The American and European bankers backed the Bolsheviks. Same for other Communists, dictators, and Fascists.
They are backing the Hildabeast.
Wake up America.
BTW; The American and European bankers backed the Bolsheviks. Same for other Communists, dictators, and Fascists.
They are backing the Hildabeast.
Wake up America.
We hear these arguments all the time....Hitler was elected, the Russians backed the Bolsheviks. But there is no meaningful link between those events and an American election. And drawing links cuts both ways: it could be the American right that is closer to those examples than the left.
One striking thing about the debate was the last question on accepting the outcome. Mrs. Clinton said of course. Mr. Trump hemmed and hawed and finally had to be asked again whether he would accept the outcome of the election. He reluctantly said yes, as though there might an alternative. Watch the tape.
If any group is threatening the basic values of America, it is the right wing extremists.
That's how easy it is to make accusations out of context.
Oct 3, 2016 09:54:44 #
Oct 3, 2016 09:59:49 #
working class stiff
Loc: N. Carolina
Homestead wrote:
The number of executive orders are not as important as to what they are and what they do.
Executive orders are there for carrying out the laws passed by congress.
The president has no right to write or rewrite the law using executive orders.
Executive orders are there for carrying out the laws passed by congress.
The president has no right to write or rewrite the law using executive orders.
I agree with the thought. I'm not a lawyer, I'm not sure about the 'right' or limits to the function of EOs. But when Congress can barely muster the will to keep government functioning, it seems to me that the Executive (and Judiciary) branch are left to pick up the pieces. A power vacuum will be filled.
Oct 3, 2016 10:03:12 #
Nickolai wrote:
Poor little conservatives been getting their ass kicked in the culture war and just can take it. ums are going to bump is head on the floor like their guru Trump
Well nick you proved our point with your list!!!! The "WINS?"
Have you ever studied how Rome fell????
We are on the same course.
Oct 3, 2016 10:35:53 #
working class stiff wrote:
We hear these arguments all the time....Hitler was... (show quote)
Not so it is the left destroying America look at the last seven plus years.
Oct 3, 2016 10:59:13 #
working class stiff
Loc: N. Carolina
kenjay wrote:
Not so it is the left destroying America look at the last seven plus years.
Did Trump hem and haw on accepting the outcome of the election or not?
What alternative is there?
Oct 3, 2016 11:51:33 #
padremike
Loc: Phenix City, Al
working class stiff wrote:
Did Trump hem and haw on accepting the outcome of the election or not?
What alternative is there?
What alternative is there?
Civil war stupid. It is a valid option to stop the Marxist left from completely destroying America. It is a Constitutional option and one of the reasons for the second amendment. Why do you think the left desperately wants to disarm the American people? It might come as a surprise to you but there are many patriotic traditional Americans willing to fight to your death to preserve our liberty. The left murders helpless unborn children by the millions and proudly call this an exercise in constitutional "women's rights" - you think real patriots won't do what is necessary to preserve America and defend it against you? Israel says "Never again." After Obama, American patriots feel the same way. Truth be told, if every leftist were to suddenly drop dead America would be better off. Harsh? Maybe. But we'd get over it and not only survive but thrive. Let's hope reason prevails but that does not mean we're willing to compromise. There are too many angry patriots to suffer you fools much longer.
Oct 3, 2016 12:06:15 #
The "LEFT" and "Right" both get played by the Powers behind the curtain. The shadow government.
The Internationalist NWO perps:
I post this because it covers the CFR in total. I hope others will copy and save for future reference.
Every one that cares, and wants to know what America is up against; should copy, save, and share with others:
URL for Roster of CFR/Trilateral Commission Members is below
Hillary Clinton Frankly Reveals the CFR Is Running the USA ...
Hillary Clinton spills the beans at the inauguration of the new office for Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in Washington, D.C. Some have said it was simply a slip of the tongue but whatever the perception is Clinton frankly revealed who's running the show in these United States:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2T-5Pd3oYY
Zionist control of CFR: http://www.rense.com/general48/captiv.htm
Some Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) Facts
The 3,000 seats of the CFR quickly filled with members of America's elite. Today, CFR members occupy key positions in government, the mass media, financial institutions, multinational corporations, the military, and the national security apparatus.
Since its inception, the CFR has served as an intermediary between high finance, big oil, corporate elitists and the U.S. government. The executive branch changes hands between Republican and Democratic administrations, but cabinet seats are always held by CFR members. It has been said by political commentators on the left and on the right that if you want to know what U.S. foreign policy will be next year, you should read Foreign Affairs this year.
The CFR's claim that "The Council has no affiliation with the U.S. government" is laughable. The justification for that statement is that funding comes from member dues, subscriptions to its Corporate Program, foundation grants, and so forth. All this really means is that the U.S. government does not exert any control over the CFR via the purse strings.
Since 1940, every U.S. secretary of state (except for Gov. James Byrnes of South Carolina, the sole exception) has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and/or its younger brother, the Trilateral Commission. Also since 1940, every secretary of war and every secretary of defense has been a CFR member. During most of its existence, the Central Intelligence Agency has been headed by CFR members, beginning with CFR founding member Allen Dulles. Virtually every key U.S. national security and foreign policy adviser has been a CFR member for the past seventy years.
Almost all White House cabinet positions are occupied by CFR members. President Clinton, himself a member of the CFR, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group, employs almost one hundred CFR members in his administration. Presidents come and go, but the CFR's power--and agenda--always remains.
The CFR's Shroud of Secrecy - On its web page, the CFR boasts that its magazine, Foreign Affairs, "is acclaimed for its analysis of recent international developments and for its forecasts of emerging trends." It's not much of a challenge to do so, though, when you play a part in determining what those emerging trends will be.
So are they predicting trends or creating them? The answer is fairly obvious to anyone who has earnestly reflected on the matter.
The CFR fancies itself to represent a diverse range cultural and political interests, but its members are predominantly wealthy males, and their policies reflect their elitist biases. The CFR attempts to maintain the charade of diversity via its Non-Attribution Rule, which allows members to engage in "a free, frank, and open exchange of ideas" without fear of having any of their statements attributed in public. The flip side of this, obviously, is a dark cloud of secrecy which envelopes the CFR's activities.
CFR meetings are usually held in secret and are restricted to members and very select guests. All members are free to express themselves at meetings unrestrained, because the Non-Attribution Rule guarantees that "others will not attribute or characterize their statements in public media forums or knowingly transmit them to persons who will," according to the Council on Foreign Relations' 1992 Annual Report.
The report goes on to forbid any meeting participant "to publish a speaker's statement in attributed form in any newspaper; to repeat it on television or radio, or on a speaker's platform, or in a classroom; or to go beyond a memo of limited circulation."
The end result is that the only information the public has on the CFR is the information they release for public consumption, which should send up red flags for anyone who understands the immense effect that CFR directives have on America's foreign policy. The public knows what the CFR wants the public to know about the CFR, and nothing more. There is one hole in the fog of secrecy, however: a book entitled Tragedy and Hope, written by an "insider" named Dr. Carroll Quigley, mentor of Bill Clinton.
Google: “Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral, Commission, Bilderberg Group”________________________________________
A few more notables in Both Parties Serving Bilderberger’s CFR/TC/BB AGENDA:
Bush Sr. - CFR,B (R)
Bush Jr? Cabinet CFR (R)
Both Clintons - CFR,TC,B (D)
Jimmy Carter - CFR,TC (D)
Obama & Biden - CFR (D)
Dick Cheney - CFR,TC (R)
Newt Gingrich - CFR (R)
Mitch McConnell - CFR (R)
Rick Perry - BB,2007 (D&R)
John Kerry CFR (D)
John McCain - CFR (R)
Zbig Brzezinski - TC, BB (D)
Heny Kissinger BB,CFR,TC (R) Paul Volker- CFR,TC,BB (D) Alan Greenspan CFR,TC,BB
Ben Bernanke BB
Tim Geithner - CFR,TC BB
David Rockefeller CFR,TC,BB George Soros - CFR,BB (D)
Albert Gore, Jr. CFR,TC (D)
Donald Rumsfeld CFR ,BB(R)
Jacob “Jack” Lew CFR (D)
Robert Gates BB,CFR,TC (D
Leon Panetta CFR (D)
Lee Hamilton CFR,TC (R)
Robert Reich CFR (D)
Condoleezza Rice CFR (R)
Susan Rice CFR (D)
Ted Cruz (wife) CFR (R)
Donna Shalala CFR/TC (D)
Donald Brennan CFR (D)
Benjamin Netanyahu CFR’88
THE MEDIA:
George Will - CFR,TC (R)
George Stephanopoulos
CFR, BB (D)
William Kristol BB (R) William Buckley Jr. CFR,BB (R)
Tom Brokaw CFR
James Traub - NY Times CFR
Andrea Mitchell CFR (D)
FOX owner
Rupert Murdock – CFR, BB
FOX SPINNERS
John Bolton CFR (R)
Charles Krauthammer CFR(R)
Doug Schoen CFR
Washington Post owner
Katherine Graham CFR,TC,BB
CNBC Spinnner:
Larry Kudlow CFR/88
CNN Spinner:
David Richmond Gergen
BB/CFR/TC/92 (D)
Robert B. Reich CFR (D)
Brian Williams - CFR
In the News:
Haley Barbour CFR (D)
Eric Holder CFR (D)
Larry Summers CFR, BB
Janet Yellen CFR (D)
Chuck Hagel CFR (D)
Sylvia Burwell CFR/11 (D)
Jeh Johnson CFR (D)
Ashton Carter CFR/92 (D)
More Politicians:
Fred Thompson CFR (R)
Charles B. Rangel CFR (D)
Barney Frank CFR (D)
Richard Newton Gardner CFR/RS/TC/84
Ruth Bader Ginsburg (D) CFR/92
Sandra Day O'Connor (R) CFR/92
Robert Strange McNamara CFR/BB/TC/84 (R&D)
Warren Christopher CFR (D)
Madeleine Albright CFR (D)
Samuel Richard ("Sandy") Berger CFR/BB (R)
Michael Froman CFR (D)
Military
General David Petraeus CFR,
CIA Director Chuck Hagel CFR
International Bankers - James Wolfensohn Paul Wolfowitz, Alan Greenspan, Tim Geithner CFR,TC,BB
Michael V. Hayden CFR CIA/NSA
Obama’s Executive Cabinet members:
In order of succession to the Presidency:
Vice President of the United States
Joseph R. Biden CFR/88
Department of State
Secretary Hillary Rodham BB/CFR/RS/TC –
See Hillary’s speaches at CFR meeting on Youtube
Department of the Treasury
Secretary Timothy F. Geithner BB/CFR/TC/09
NOW: Jacob “Jack” Lew CFR
Department of Defense
Secretary Leon E. Panetta CFR
Chuck Hagel CFR
Department of Justice
Attorney General; Eric Holder CFR
Newbees:
Ashton Carter CFR/92
Jeh Charles Johnson CFR
Pentagon Senior Counsel CFR
Director, CIA/ DHS Secretary
Jeh Charles Johnson CFR
Sylvia Mathews Burwell CFR/11
More positions filled with CFR:
Department of Commerce
Secretary John E. Bryson CFR/TC/88
Department of Veterans Affairs
Secretary Eric K. Shinseki CFR
Department of Homeland Security
Secretary Janet A. Napolitano CFR
Florida Representative and DNC Chair, Debbie Wasserman Schultz. CFR
United States Ambassador to the United Nations
Ambassador Susan Rice CFR
White House Chief of Staff
Bill Daley CFR
Department of Agriculture
Secretary Thomas J. Vilsack CFR
Source: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/cfrall1.htm#d
http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/roundtable/CFRA-Elist.html - Initial List of Council on Foreign Relations Members
Hillary Clinton Frankly Reveals the CFR Is Running the USA ...
Hillary Clinton spills the beans at the inauguration of the new office for Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in Washington, D.C. Some have said it was simply a slip of the tongue but whatever the perception is Clinton frankly revealed who's running the show in these United States:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2T-5Pd3oYY
Cheney on CFR, Council on Foreign Relations http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOAk-7F1EVU
Save as a Word Doc, copy and paste. A lot of people are waking up. A critical mass of awakened Americans can get reached when the truth is shared
The Internationalist NWO perps:
I post this because it covers the CFR in total. I hope others will copy and save for future reference.
Every one that cares, and wants to know what America is up against; should copy, save, and share with others:
URL for Roster of CFR/Trilateral Commission Members is below
Hillary Clinton Frankly Reveals the CFR Is Running the USA ...
Hillary Clinton spills the beans at the inauguration of the new office for Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in Washington, D.C. Some have said it was simply a slip of the tongue but whatever the perception is Clinton frankly revealed who's running the show in these United States:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2T-5Pd3oYY
Zionist control of CFR: http://www.rense.com/general48/captiv.htm
Some Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) Facts
The 3,000 seats of the CFR quickly filled with members of America's elite. Today, CFR members occupy key positions in government, the mass media, financial institutions, multinational corporations, the military, and the national security apparatus.
Since its inception, the CFR has served as an intermediary between high finance, big oil, corporate elitists and the U.S. government. The executive branch changes hands between Republican and Democratic administrations, but cabinet seats are always held by CFR members. It has been said by political commentators on the left and on the right that if you want to know what U.S. foreign policy will be next year, you should read Foreign Affairs this year.
The CFR's claim that "The Council has no affiliation with the U.S. government" is laughable. The justification for that statement is that funding comes from member dues, subscriptions to its Corporate Program, foundation grants, and so forth. All this really means is that the U.S. government does not exert any control over the CFR via the purse strings.
Since 1940, every U.S. secretary of state (except for Gov. James Byrnes of South Carolina, the sole exception) has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and/or its younger brother, the Trilateral Commission. Also since 1940, every secretary of war and every secretary of defense has been a CFR member. During most of its existence, the Central Intelligence Agency has been headed by CFR members, beginning with CFR founding member Allen Dulles. Virtually every key U.S. national security and foreign policy adviser has been a CFR member for the past seventy years.
Almost all White House cabinet positions are occupied by CFR members. President Clinton, himself a member of the CFR, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group, employs almost one hundred CFR members in his administration. Presidents come and go, but the CFR's power--and agenda--always remains.
The CFR's Shroud of Secrecy - On its web page, the CFR boasts that its magazine, Foreign Affairs, "is acclaimed for its analysis of recent international developments and for its forecasts of emerging trends." It's not much of a challenge to do so, though, when you play a part in determining what those emerging trends will be.
So are they predicting trends or creating them? The answer is fairly obvious to anyone who has earnestly reflected on the matter.
The CFR fancies itself to represent a diverse range cultural and political interests, but its members are predominantly wealthy males, and their policies reflect their elitist biases. The CFR attempts to maintain the charade of diversity via its Non-Attribution Rule, which allows members to engage in "a free, frank, and open exchange of ideas" without fear of having any of their statements attributed in public. The flip side of this, obviously, is a dark cloud of secrecy which envelopes the CFR's activities.
CFR meetings are usually held in secret and are restricted to members and very select guests. All members are free to express themselves at meetings unrestrained, because the Non-Attribution Rule guarantees that "others will not attribute or characterize their statements in public media forums or knowingly transmit them to persons who will," according to the Council on Foreign Relations' 1992 Annual Report.
The report goes on to forbid any meeting participant "to publish a speaker's statement in attributed form in any newspaper; to repeat it on television or radio, or on a speaker's platform, or in a classroom; or to go beyond a memo of limited circulation."
The end result is that the only information the public has on the CFR is the information they release for public consumption, which should send up red flags for anyone who understands the immense effect that CFR directives have on America's foreign policy. The public knows what the CFR wants the public to know about the CFR, and nothing more. There is one hole in the fog of secrecy, however: a book entitled Tragedy and Hope, written by an "insider" named Dr. Carroll Quigley, mentor of Bill Clinton.
Google: “Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral, Commission, Bilderberg Group”________________________________________
A few more notables in Both Parties Serving Bilderberger’s CFR/TC/BB AGENDA:
Bush Sr. - CFR,B (R)
Bush Jr? Cabinet CFR (R)
Both Clintons - CFR,TC,B (D)
Jimmy Carter - CFR,TC (D)
Obama & Biden - CFR (D)
Dick Cheney - CFR,TC (R)
Newt Gingrich - CFR (R)
Mitch McConnell - CFR (R)
Rick Perry - BB,2007 (D&R)
John Kerry CFR (D)
John McCain - CFR (R)
Zbig Brzezinski - TC, BB (D)
Heny Kissinger BB,CFR,TC (R) Paul Volker- CFR,TC,BB (D) Alan Greenspan CFR,TC,BB
Ben Bernanke BB
Tim Geithner - CFR,TC BB
David Rockefeller CFR,TC,BB George Soros - CFR,BB (D)
Albert Gore, Jr. CFR,TC (D)
Donald Rumsfeld CFR ,BB(R)
Jacob “Jack” Lew CFR (D)
Robert Gates BB,CFR,TC (D
Leon Panetta CFR (D)
Lee Hamilton CFR,TC (R)
Robert Reich CFR (D)
Condoleezza Rice CFR (R)
Susan Rice CFR (D)
Ted Cruz (wife) CFR (R)
Donna Shalala CFR/TC (D)
Donald Brennan CFR (D)
Benjamin Netanyahu CFR’88
THE MEDIA:
George Will - CFR,TC (R)
George Stephanopoulos
CFR, BB (D)
William Kristol BB (R) William Buckley Jr. CFR,BB (R)
Tom Brokaw CFR
James Traub - NY Times CFR
Andrea Mitchell CFR (D)
FOX owner
Rupert Murdock – CFR, BB
FOX SPINNERS
John Bolton CFR (R)
Charles Krauthammer CFR(R)
Doug Schoen CFR
Washington Post owner
Katherine Graham CFR,TC,BB
CNBC Spinnner:
Larry Kudlow CFR/88
CNN Spinner:
David Richmond Gergen
BB/CFR/TC/92 (D)
Robert B. Reich CFR (D)
Brian Williams - CFR
In the News:
Haley Barbour CFR (D)
Eric Holder CFR (D)
Larry Summers CFR, BB
Janet Yellen CFR (D)
Chuck Hagel CFR (D)
Sylvia Burwell CFR/11 (D)
Jeh Johnson CFR (D)
Ashton Carter CFR/92 (D)
More Politicians:
Fred Thompson CFR (R)
Charles B. Rangel CFR (D)
Barney Frank CFR (D)
Richard Newton Gardner CFR/RS/TC/84
Ruth Bader Ginsburg (D) CFR/92
Sandra Day O'Connor (R) CFR/92
Robert Strange McNamara CFR/BB/TC/84 (R&D)
Warren Christopher CFR (D)
Madeleine Albright CFR (D)
Samuel Richard ("Sandy") Berger CFR/BB (R)
Michael Froman CFR (D)
Military
General David Petraeus CFR,
CIA Director Chuck Hagel CFR
International Bankers - James Wolfensohn Paul Wolfowitz, Alan Greenspan, Tim Geithner CFR,TC,BB
Michael V. Hayden CFR CIA/NSA
Obama’s Executive Cabinet members:
In order of succession to the Presidency:
Vice President of the United States
Joseph R. Biden CFR/88
Department of State
Secretary Hillary Rodham BB/CFR/RS/TC –
See Hillary’s speaches at CFR meeting on Youtube
Department of the Treasury
Secretary Timothy F. Geithner BB/CFR/TC/09
NOW: Jacob “Jack” Lew CFR
Department of Defense
Secretary Leon E. Panetta CFR
Chuck Hagel CFR
Department of Justice
Attorney General; Eric Holder CFR
Newbees:
Ashton Carter CFR/92
Jeh Charles Johnson CFR
Pentagon Senior Counsel CFR
Director, CIA/ DHS Secretary
Jeh Charles Johnson CFR
Sylvia Mathews Burwell CFR/11
More positions filled with CFR:
Department of Commerce
Secretary John E. Bryson CFR/TC/88
Department of Veterans Affairs
Secretary Eric K. Shinseki CFR
Department of Homeland Security
Secretary Janet A. Napolitano CFR
Florida Representative and DNC Chair, Debbie Wasserman Schultz. CFR
United States Ambassador to the United Nations
Ambassador Susan Rice CFR
White House Chief of Staff
Bill Daley CFR
Department of Agriculture
Secretary Thomas J. Vilsack CFR
Source: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/cfrall1.htm#d
http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/roundtable/CFRA-Elist.html - Initial List of Council on Foreign Relations Members
Hillary Clinton Frankly Reveals the CFR Is Running the USA ...
Hillary Clinton spills the beans at the inauguration of the new office for Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in Washington, D.C. Some have said it was simply a slip of the tongue but whatever the perception is Clinton frankly revealed who's running the show in these United States:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2T-5Pd3oYY
Cheney on CFR, Council on Foreign Relations http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOAk-7F1EVU
Save as a Word Doc, copy and paste. A lot of people are waking up. A critical mass of awakened Americans can get reached when the truth is shared
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