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Nov 23, 2013 14:46:24   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
This question is for the libs on this forum. Why do libs say that large amounts of money spent on wars is budget busting but trillions spent on green energy, bailouts, and other government so called stimulus programs isn't?

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Nov 23, 2013 15:05:14   #
Navysnipe Loc: Old West
 
JFlorio wrote:
This question is for the libs on this forum. Why do libs say that large amounts of money spent on wars is budget busting but trillions spent on green energy, bailouts, and other government so called stimulus programs isn't?


Because they're right and your wrong about everything. Its part of the disease.

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Nov 23, 2013 16:15:01   #
Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way
 
Navysnipe wrote:
Because they're right and your wrong about everything. Its part of the disease.


Stimulus spending is only beneficial if it creates long term jobs and real wealth.

Like a factory that actually produces something

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Nov 23, 2013 20:16:38   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Because history shows us liberals love to get into wars and then lose interest quickly rather than stay the coarse. Then they turn their attention to I want to be a businessman and throw billions at GREEN projects with very little thought other than 'hey they were one of my backers' thus billions go out the door.



JFlorio wrote:
This question is for the libs on this forum. Why do libs say that large amounts of money spent on wars is budget busting but trillions spent on green energy, bailouts, and other government so called stimulus programs isn't?

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Nov 23, 2013 21:10:44   #
Marg2013
 
It's all about getting elected. They draw huge pensions after they leave office. Plus all the things they pick up on the side. Few exceptions. They buy their way into congress. It'.s not for the good of the people for theist part.
They don't have enough places for the mentally ill. A few people are trying to place their loved ones in assisted housing but they take the stimulus and place it on the hands of their cronies. Remember when Biden was supposed to give reports on where the money went. Never happened did it?obama has never talked about the mentally ill, no help or anything.

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Nov 24, 2013 08:59:54   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
JFlorio wrote:
This question is for the libs on this forum. Why do libs say that large amounts of money spent on wars is budget busting but trillions spent on green energy, bailouts, and other government so called stimulus programs isn't?


Because they are just as ignorant and childish as everyone else. Libs certainly do NOT have a monopoly on stupidity. I am still amazed that BALANCE is a concept that cannot be grasped by any party or faction within one.

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Nov 24, 2013 18:07:01   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
JFlorio wrote:
This question is for the libs on this forum. Why do libs say that large amounts of money spent on wars is budget busting but trillions spent on green energy, bailouts, and other government so called stimulus programs isn't?


Well, I'm not exactly lib but since there are few who post that don't belong to the extreme right wing, I'll answer your question as a somewhat conservative Dem. I don't regard money spent on wars as wasted or budget busting. I do believe we should have funded the Iraq venture with increased tax on wealthy but considered the venture worth the effort to try to create a representative government in the middle of the Middle East even if only partially successful. Stimulus is necessary in recessions--massive stimulus in major recessions. Preferably stimulus would be in the form of investment in infrastructure. Theoretically green energy subsidies are investment...I understand much didn't work out economically yet. Bailouts? Not nice but collapse would be worse. Cut that some slack, you naysayers. Because of stalemate and debt story lines, stimulus to get out of the "Great Recession" has taken the form of Federal Reserve monetary measures of low interest rates. Investment in high speed rail, repair of bridges & highways, tech structure, power grid structure, etc. would have been better and quicker and substantive, but just wasn't workable politically. How's that for lib? ha.

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Nov 24, 2013 18:37:23   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
So it's governments place to invest tax dollars in maybe's, damn all this time I thought is was private investors.

GM should never been bailed out by the government they should have gone through the courts and come out clean and lean. Billions went to GM and that money will never be recovered.


jonhatfield wrote:
Well, I'm not exactly lib but since there are few who post that don't belong to the extreme right wing, I'll answer your question as a somewhat conservative Dem. I don't regard money spent on wars as wasted or budget busting. I do believe we should have funded the Iraq venture with increased tax on wealthy but considered the venture worth the effort to try to create a representative government in the middle of the Middle East even if only partially successful. Stimulus is necessary in recessions--massive stimulus in major recessions. Preferably stimulus would be in the form of investment in infrastructure. Theoretically green energy subsidies are investment...I understand much didn't work out economically yet. Bailouts? Not nice but collapse would be worse. Cut that some slack, you naysayers. Because of stalemate and debt story lines, stimulus to get out of the "Great Recession" has taken the form of Federal Reserve monetary measures of low interest rates. Investment in high speed rail, repair of bridges & highways, tech structure, power grid structure, etc. would have been better and quicker and substantive, but just wasn't workable politically. How's that for lib? ha.
Well, I'm not exactly lib but since there are few ... (show quote)

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Nov 24, 2013 20:08:21   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
bmac32 wrote:
So it's governments place to invest tax dollars in maybe's, damn all this time I thought is was private investors.

GM should never been bailed out by the government they should have gone through the courts and come out clean and lean. Billions went to GM and that money will never be recovered.


not to mention all the stock stolen from the investors and given to the union communist thugs

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Nov 24, 2013 22:40:17   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Let's not forget funds that were paid for that they received 15% return or that this was nothing more than a union pay back.



alex wrote:
not to mention all the stock stolen from the investors and given to the union communist thugs

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