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Oct 2, 2016 03:54:12   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Then do us all a favor! Please explain why the vast majority of all credible climate scientists, have proven that global warming is caused by humans! And don't forget to name the scientist who has accomplished this feat!


Because smooth brain, they have not. You are being told they are world scientists and you are being told they are the majority of world scientists. You obviously have not looked at their credentials nor counted them. The leading accredited world scientists, real scientists, have signed the paper stating CC is a hoax and why.

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Oct 2, 2016 03:55:55   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
I said a credible scientist, not a source that caters to teenagers!


You have no scientists. You have tree hugging ecologists.

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Oct 2, 2016 03:57:44   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
How about one of your favorites, Reagan!!!!


So you admit you have no scientists. We knew that.

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Oct 2, 2016 08:13:42   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
You idiotically have yet to provide. one credible climate scientist. who defends your idiocy!

http://www.ted.com/talks/james_hansen_why_i_must_speak_out_about_climate_change


Perhaps you missed this earlier post I put in here, Ray....I did not copy the graphs but you can read them in the entire article ...
Note the dates..Note the failed predictions...Note the altering of data...
Data is manipulated based on "need"...
The worst part of it all is we no longer know what is real vs what is fabricated..If we ever really knew to begin with...

https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/spectacularly-poor-climate-science-at-nasa/

<snip>
Hansen’s recent temperature data tampering is not limited to the US. He has done the same thing all over the planet. Below is one recent example in Iceland, where he dramatically cooled the first half of the century, and warmed the present. He appears to be trying to erase evidence that there was a very warm period in much of the Arctic around 1940.



Original version Altered version

The changes in Reykjavik, Iceland were particularly heinous – because they were specifically objected to by the Icelandic Met Office. Meteorologist Mark Johnson contacted the senior expert at the Icelandic Met Office and asked him about NASA data tampering in iceland. Here is their exchange :

1) Are you happy with the adjustments as they stand right now?

No, I am not happy with the adjustments as they stand, but I might no be quite up to date. I don’t know if they have been making additional changes during the last 2-3 weeks.

2) Have you or any of your staff contacted or been contacted by anyone from NASA Goddard Space Institute officials?

No, but we made some contact with them about 5-6 weeks ago. Best wishes,

Trausti Jónsson senior meteorologist Icelandic Meteorological Office

The altering of Icelandic data by NASA was particularly troubling, because the cooling from 1940 to 1980 was a well known and difficult historical period in Iceland. NASA erased Iceland’s history, without even the courtesy to contact Iceland’s experts.

Additionally, we know that there was tremendous warming in the Arctic prior to the 1940s, which Hansen has erased from the historical record in Iceland, Greenland and elsewhere.

In 1947, noted geophysicist Dr. Hans Ahlmann reported to the University of California Geophysical Institute that the Arctic had warmed ten degrees since 1900.



31 May 1947 – Warmer Arctic Climate May Raise Ocean Levels

Arctic warming was well known as early as 1922.





docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/050/mwr-050-11-0589a.pdf

Many leading experts prior to the Hansen era, agreed that the earlier Arctic warming was real, and quite dramatic.

CLEVELAND, Feb. 16 (A.A.P.) Dr. William S. Carlson, an Arctic expert, said to-night that the Polar icecaps were melting at an astonishing and unexplained rate and were threatening to swamp seaports by raising the ocean levels.

Leading Arctic expert from 1953

The glaciers of Norway and Alaska are only half the size they were 50 years age. The temperature around Spitsbergen has so modified that the sailing time has lengthened from three to eight months of the year,”

Leading Arctic expert from 1952

LONDON (A.P.).-The earth is getting warmer. The oceans are getting deeper. The glaciers are getting smaller. Even the fish are changing their way of life.

All this and more is going on because of a vast, unaccountable, century-by-century change, in climate. In his study at Bedford College in London, Britain’s distinguished geographer, Professor Gordon Manley, is worrying about it.

Leading geographer from 1950

Dr. Ahlman urged the establishment of an international agency to study conditions on a global basis. Temperatures had risen 10 degrees since 1900. The navigable season along Western Spitzbergen now last- ed eight months instead of three.

Leading Arctic expert from 1947

it was concluded that near Polar temperatures are on an average six degrees higher than those registered by Nansen 40 years ago. Ice measurements were on an average only 6½ feet against from 9¼ to 13 feet.

Russian report from 1940

Similarly NASA temperature records for Antarctica have also been altered. In 2005, NASA showed most of Antarctic on a long term cooling trend, but in 2007 they changed it to a long term warming trend – despite the fact that 2007 was the year of record sea ice in Antarctica.

The map below from 2005 shows long term cooling.



SVS Animation 3188 – Antarctic Heating and Cooling Trends

In 2007, they replaced the image above with a different one which incorrectly showed long term warming.



Disintegration: Antarctic Warming Claims Another Ice Shelf : Feature Articles

NASA has been altering data and changing the historical record from one pole to the other. Not surprisingly, the vast majority of these changes have trended towards more warming than the original thermometer readings indicated.

Misprediction

In 1988, Hansen made three very famous forecasts (shown below) of temperature rise, based on high, medium and very low (Scenario C) CO2 production.



pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1988/1988_Hansen_etal.pdf

His forecasts were very poor, and indicate that he has greatly overestimated the effect of CO2 on the climate. The graph below overlays the most recent NASA global temperatures(red line) on Hansen’s predictions from 1988. The red circle shows 2012 temperature anomalies so far.



NASA reported temperatures show more of an increase than satellites do, but even the NASA temperatures fall below Scenario C – which essentially assumes that people stopped producing CO2 in the year 2000. Hansen’s own data invalidates his theory, yet he continues to ramp up his claims about the magnitude of global warming. This is the mark of a very poor scientist.

Sea Level

Now, on to his claims about sea level. Hansen has consistently made sea level forecasts far above the upper bounds of those from the IPCC (18-59cm.) In 2007, he forecast sea level rise up to 25 metres to the US Senate, which is nearly fifty times higher than the IPCC’s highest forecast.



Antarctic blues and the Australian drought

In 1988, Hansen told (sympathetic) journalist Bob Reiss that the West Side Highway in Manhattan would be underwater within 20 or 30 years (2008-2018). In 2001, he confirmed and reiterated that claim.

While doing research 12 or 13 years ago, I met Jim Hansen, the scientist who in 1988 predicted the greenhouse effect before Congress. I went over to the window with him and looked out on Broadway in New York City and said, “If what you’re saying about the greenhouse effect is true, is anything going to look different down there in 20 years?” He looked for a while and was quiet and didn’t say anything for a couple seconds. Then he said, “Well, there will be more traffic.” I, of course, didn’t think he heard the question right. Then he explained, “The West Side Highway [which runs along the Hudson River] will be under water. And there will be tape across the windows across the street because of high winds. And the same birds won’t be there. The trees in the median strip will change.” Then he said, “There will be more police cars.” Why? “Well, you know what happens to crime when the heat goes up.”

And so far, over the last 10 years, we’ve had 10 of the hottest years on record.

Didn’t he also say that restaurants would have signs in their windows that read, “Water by request only.”

Under the greenhouse effect, extreme weather increases. Depending on where you are in terms of the hydrological cycle, you get more of whatever you’re prone to get. New York can get droughts, the droughts can get more severe and you’ll have signs in restaurants saying “Water by request only.”

When did he say this will happen?

Within 20 or 30 years. And remember we had this conversation in 1988 or 1989.

Does he still believe these things?

Yes, he still believes everything. I talked to him a few months ago and he said he wouldn’t change anything that he said then.

Stormy weather – Global Warming – Salon.com

Dr. Hansen has also been making wildly exaggerated forecasts about a wide variety of topics for almost three decades, like this one from 1986



The News and Courier – Google News Archive Search

In March 2006, he forecast a “Super El Nino” which went against the opinion of the expert community, and never materialized.

We suggest that an El Niño is likely to originate in 2006 and that there is a good chance it will be a “super El Niño”, rivaling the 1983 and 1997-1998 El Niños, which were successively labeled the “El Niño of the century” as they were of unprecedented strength in the previous 100 years.

– Prometheus: Out on a Limb with a Super El Niño Prediction Archives

In March, 2011 – he again predicted a strong El Nino which never materialized.

Based on sub­sur­face ocean tem­pera­tures, the way these have pro­gres­sed the past sever­al months, and com­parisons with de­velop­ment of prior El Niños, we be­lieve that the sys­tem is mov­ing toward a strong El Niño start­ing this summ­er. It’s not a sure bet, but it is pro­b­able.

http://www.truth-out.org/perceptions-climate-change/1301356800

In 2012, the NASA model is once again predicting a strong El Nino, which no one else is forecasting.



SST_table.gif (587×507)

Why does James Hansen keep incorrectly predicting strong El Ninos? The reason is simple – they bring the temperature up, and he expects to see that. A very unsophisticated, lazy and ineffective basis for science.

Antarctic Ice

In 1984, Dr. Hansen predicted a large amount of ice loss in Antarctica as CO2 increases. The image below forecasts 40% albedo loss in the Ross Sea (after a doubling of CO2) which corresponds to loss of white, reflective sea ice.



www.epa.gov/climatechange/effects/downloads/Challenge_chapter2.pdf

Contrary to Hansen’s forecast trend, Antarctic sea ice has steadily increased – particularly in the Ross Sea.


Excess ice in the Ross Sea shown in the red circle above. This is the region which Hansen forecast peak ice loss.

Conspiracy Theorist?

Dr. Hansen has alluded on several occasions to the idea that there is a well funded group of people working to intentionally ruin the climate.

James Hansen, one of the world’s leading climate scientists, will today call for the chief executives of large fossil fuel companies to be put on trial for high crimes against humanity and nature, accusing them of actively spreading doubt about global warming in the same way that tobacco companies blurred the links between smoking and cancer.

Put oil firm chiefs on trial, says leading climate change scientist | Environment | The Guardian

“There is a very concerted effort by people who would prefer to see business to continue as usual. They have been winning the public debate with the help of tremendous resources.”

Scientist hits climate change skepticism – UPI.com

Hansen has never provided any evidence to support the idea that skeptics are either well funded or intentionally misleading the public, yet he frequently repeats this claim.

Dr. Hansen has suggested that fossil fuel corporation CEOs are intentionally committing high crimes against the planet – because they don’t believe his spectacularly failed mispredictions.

Hansen went on to say: “CEOs of fossil energy companies know what they are doing and are aware of long-term consequences of continued business as usual. In my opinion, these CEOs should be tried for high crimes against humanity and nature.”

James Hansen: Try Fossil Fuel CEOs For ‘High Crimes Against Humanity

Additionally Dr. Hansen has been arrested several times for committing crimes in “defense of the planet”



Other NASA climate failures

Dr. Hansen is not the only climate scientist at NASA making spectacular mispredictions. Five years ago another NASA scientist predicted a possible ice-free Arctic in 2012

NASA climate scientist Jay Zwally said: “At this rate, the Arctic Ocean could be nearly ice-free at the end of summer by 2012, much faster than previous predictions.”

Arctic Sea Ice Gone in Summer Within Five Years?

Arctic ice extent is now within a couple percent of normal, and Alaska has the most extensive sea ice ever recorded.


Summary

For the past 30 years, NASA climate scientists under the leadership of Dr. Hansen have demonstrated nearly complete incompetence in forecasting, and they have tampered with data to try to hide their mispredictions.

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DirkH on June 3, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Hansen earns NASA 1.2 billion USD in Global Warming money a year.
http://notrickszone.com/2012/04/12/nasa-abdalatis-response-to-50-esteemed-professionals-is-managerial-negligence-an-embarrassment/#comment-92515
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/FY12-climate-fs.pdf

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TNSteve on March 2, 2014 at 12:58 am
You hit the nail on the head. Money for global warming and zero dollars to pursue real science and answers where ever they lead. Maybe he was hit on the head with a hockey stick? I know Ozone AL was hit on the head on too many times, but he and Soros still manages to make millions off his scientific opinions snowing the masses.


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Richard on June 10, 2012 at 5:22 am
NASA sounds like the Ministry of Truth from George Orwell.

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jimash1 on July 1, 2012 at 10:04 pm
There is a certain air of criminality to changing historical records .
A violation of the pubic trust that your average warmist just refuses to see.

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Oct 2, 2016 11:50:06   #
Big Bass
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
How about one of your favorites, Reagan!!!!


GOD GOD!!! You're an idiot! Of course we mustn't dump our garbage and raw sewage into the environment untreated. That IS common sense. Where does global warming come in?

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Oct 2, 2016 13:17:57   #
boomie54
 
Well let's hope so!

Forkbassman wrote:
I don't listen to atheists.

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Oct 2, 2016 13:25:20   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Steven Goddard???????????????????????????? You really are that ignorant aren't you!

Tony Hellar (AKA; Steven Goddard) Exposed!

https://tonyhellerakastevengoddardisnotasociopath.wordpress.com/who-is-tony-heller/

Heller is a total fraud and certainly not a climatologist!

http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2014/06/my-thoughts-on-steven-goddard-and-his-fabricated-temperature-data-claim.html




lindajoy wrote:
Perhaps you missed this earlier post I put in here, Ray....I did not copy the graphs but you can read them in the entire article ...
Note the dates..Note the failed predictions...Note the altering of data...
Data is manipulated based on "need"...
The worst part of it all is we no longer know what is real vs what is fabricated..If we ever really knew to begin with...

https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/spectacularly-poor-climate-science-at-nasa/

<snip>
Hansen’s recent temperature data tampering is not limited to the US. He has done the same thing all over the planet. Below is one recent example in Iceland, where he dramatically cooled the first half of the century, and warmed the present. He appears to be trying to erase evidence that there was a very warm period in much of the Arctic around 1940.



Original version Altered version

The changes in Reykjavik, Iceland were particularly heinous – because they were specifically objected to by the Icelandic Met Office. Meteorologist Mark Johnson contacted the senior expert at the Icelandic Met Office and asked him about NASA data tampering in iceland. Here is their exchange :

1) Are you happy with the adjustments as they stand right now?

No, I am not happy with the adjustments as they stand, but I might no be quite up to date. I don’t know if they have been making additional changes during the last 2-3 weeks.

2) Have you or any of your staff contacted or been contacted by anyone from NASA Goddard Space Institute officials?

No, but we made some contact with them about 5-6 weeks ago. Best wishes,

Trausti Jónsson senior meteorologist Icelandic Meteorological Office

The altering of Icelandic data by NASA was particularly troubling, because the cooling from 1940 to 1980 was a well known and difficult historical period in Iceland. NASA erased Iceland’s history, without even the courtesy to contact Iceland’s experts.

Additionally, we know that there was tremendous warming in the Arctic prior to the 1940s, which Hansen has erased from the historical record in Iceland, Greenland and elsewhere.

In 1947, noted geophysicist Dr. Hans Ahlmann reported to the University of California Geophysical Institute that the Arctic had warmed ten degrees since 1900.



31 May 1947 – Warmer Arctic Climate May Raise Ocean Levels

Arctic warming was well known as early as 1922.





docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/050/mwr-050-11-0589a.pdf

Many leading experts prior to the Hansen era, agreed that the earlier Arctic warming was real, and quite dramatic.

CLEVELAND, Feb. 16 (A.A.P.) Dr. William S. Carlson, an Arctic expert, said to-night that the Polar icecaps were melting at an astonishing and unexplained rate and were threatening to swamp seaports by raising the ocean levels.

Leading Arctic expert from 1953

The glaciers of Norway and Alaska are only half the size they were 50 years age. The temperature around Spitsbergen has so modified that the sailing time has lengthened from three to eight months of the year,”

Leading Arctic expert from 1952

LONDON (A.P.).-The earth is getting warmer. The oceans are getting deeper. The glaciers are getting smaller. Even the fish are changing their way of life.

All this and more is going on because of a vast, unaccountable, century-by-century change, in climate. In his study at Bedford College in London, Britain’s distinguished geographer, Professor Gordon Manley, is worrying about it.

Leading geographer from 1950

Dr. Ahlman urged the establishment of an international agency to study conditions on a global basis. Temperatures had risen 10 degrees since 1900. The navigable season along Western Spitzbergen now last- ed eight months instead of three.

Leading Arctic expert from 1947

it was concluded that near Polar temperatures are on an average six degrees higher than those registered by Nansen 40 years ago. Ice measurements were on an average only 6½ feet against from 9¼ to 13 feet.

Russian report from 1940

Similarly NASA temperature records for Antarctica have also been altered. In 2005, NASA showed most of Antarctic on a long term cooling trend, but in 2007 they changed it to a long term warming trend – despite the fact that 2007 was the year of record sea ice in Antarctica.

The map below from 2005 shows long term cooling.



SVS Animation 3188 – Antarctic Heating and Cooling Trends

In 2007, they replaced the image above with a different one which incorrectly showed long term warming.



Disintegration: Antarctic Warming Claims Another Ice Shelf : Feature Articles

NASA has been altering data and changing the historical record from one pole to the other. Not surprisingly, the vast majority of these changes have trended towards more warming than the original thermometer readings indicated.

Misprediction

In 1988, Hansen made three very famous forecasts (shown below) of temperature rise, based on high, medium and very low (Scenario C) CO2 production.



pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1988/1988_Hansen_etal.pdf

His forecasts were very poor, and indicate that he has greatly overestimated the effect of CO2 on the climate. The graph below overlays the most recent NASA global temperatures(red line) on Hansen’s predictions from 1988. The red circle shows 2012 temperature anomalies so far.



NASA reported temperatures show more of an increase than satellites do, but even the NASA temperatures fall below Scenario C – which essentially assumes that people stopped producing CO2 in the year 2000. Hansen’s own data invalidates his theory, yet he continues to ramp up his claims about the magnitude of global warming. This is the mark of a very poor scientist.

Sea Level

Now, on to his claims about sea level. Hansen has consistently made sea level forecasts far above the upper bounds of those from the IPCC (18-59cm.) In 2007, he forecast sea level rise up to 25 metres to the US Senate, which is nearly fifty times higher than the IPCC’s highest forecast.



Antarctic blues and the Australian drought

In 1988, Hansen told (sympathetic) journalist Bob Reiss that the West Side Highway in Manhattan would be underwater within 20 or 30 years (2008-2018). In 2001, he confirmed and reiterated that claim.

While doing research 12 or 13 years ago, I met Jim Hansen, the scientist who in 1988 predicted the greenhouse effect before Congress. I went over to the window with him and looked out on Broadway in New York City and said, “If what you’re saying about the greenhouse effect is true, is anything going to look different down there in 20 years?” He looked for a while and was quiet and didn’t say anything for a couple seconds. Then he said, “Well, there will be more traffic.” I, of course, didn’t think he heard the question right. Then he explained, “The West Side Highway [which runs along the Hudson River] will be under water. And there will be tape across the windows across the street because of high winds. And the same birds won’t be there. The trees in the median strip will change.” Then he said, “There will be more police cars.” Why? “Well, you know what happens to crime when the heat goes up.”

And so far, over the last 10 years, we’ve had 10 of the hottest years on record.

Didn’t he also say that restaurants would have signs in their windows that read, “Water by request only.”

Under the greenhouse effect, extreme weather increases. Depending on where you are in terms of the hydrological cycle, you get more of whatever you’re prone to get. New York can get droughts, the droughts can get more severe and you’ll have signs in restaurants saying “Water by request only.”

When did he say this will happen?

Within 20 or 30 years. And remember we had this conversation in 1988 or 1989.

Does he still believe these things?

Yes, he still believes everything. I talked to him a few months ago and he said he wouldn’t change anything that he said then.

Stormy weather – Global Warming – Salon.com

Dr. Hansen has also been making wildly exaggerated forecasts about a wide variety of topics for almost three decades, like this one from 1986



The News and Courier – Google News Archive Search

In March 2006, he forecast a “Super El Nino” which went against the opinion of the expert community, and never materialized.

We suggest that an El Niño is likely to originate in 2006 and that there is a good chance it will be a “super El Niño”, rivaling the 1983 and 1997-1998 El Niños, which were successively labeled the “El Niño of the century” as they were of unprecedented strength in the previous 100 years.

– Prometheus: Out on a Limb with a Super El Niño Prediction Archives

In March, 2011 – he again predicted a strong El Nino which never materialized.

Based on sub­sur­face ocean tem­pera­tures, the way these have pro­gres­sed the past sever­al months, and com­parisons with de­velop­ment of prior El Niños, we be­lieve that the sys­tem is mov­ing toward a strong El Niño start­ing this summ­er. It’s not a sure bet, but it is pro­b­able.

http://www.truth-out.org/perceptions-climate-change/1301356800

In 2012, the NASA model is once again predicting a strong El Nino, which no one else is forecasting.



SST_table.gif (587×507)

Why does James Hansen keep incorrectly predicting strong El Ninos? The reason is simple – they bring the temperature up, and he expects to see that. A very unsophisticated, lazy and ineffective basis for science.

Antarctic Ice

In 1984, Dr. Hansen predicted a large amount of ice loss in Antarctica as CO2 increases. The image below forecasts 40% albedo loss in the Ross Sea (after a doubling of CO2) which corresponds to loss of white, reflective sea ice.



www.epa.gov/climatechange/effects/downloads/Challenge_chapter2.pdf

Contrary to Hansen’s forecast trend, Antarctic sea ice has steadily increased – particularly in the Ross Sea.


Excess ice in the Ross Sea shown in the red circle above. This is the region which Hansen forecast peak ice loss.

Conspiracy Theorist?

Dr. Hansen has alluded on several occasions to the idea that there is a well funded group of people working to intentionally ruin the climate.

James Hansen, one of the world’s leading climate scientists, will today call for the chief executives of large fossil fuel companies to be put on trial for high crimes against humanity and nature, accusing them of actively spreading doubt about global warming in the same way that tobacco companies blurred the links between smoking and cancer.

Put oil firm chiefs on trial, says leading climate change scientist | Environment | The Guardian

“There is a very concerted effort by people who would prefer to see business to continue as usual. They have been winning the public debate with the help of tremendous resources.”

Scientist hits climate change skepticism – UPI.com

Hansen has never provided any evidence to support the idea that skeptics are either well funded or intentionally misleading the public, yet he frequently repeats this claim.

Dr. Hansen has suggested that fossil fuel corporation CEOs are intentionally committing high crimes against the planet – because they don’t believe his spectacularly failed mispredictions.

Hansen went on to say: “CEOs of fossil energy companies know what they are doing and are aware of long-term consequences of continued business as usual. In my opinion, these CEOs should be tried for high crimes against humanity and nature.”

James Hansen: Try Fossil Fuel CEOs For ‘High Crimes Against Humanity

Additionally Dr. Hansen has been arrested several times for committing crimes in “defense of the planet”



Other NASA climate failures

Dr. Hansen is not the only climate scientist at NASA making spectacular mispredictions. Five years ago another NASA scientist predicted a possible ice-free Arctic in 2012

NASA climate scientist Jay Zwally said: “At this rate, the Arctic Ocean could be nearly ice-free at the end of summer by 2012, much faster than previous predictions.”

Arctic Sea Ice Gone in Summer Within Five Years?

Arctic ice extent is now within a couple percent of normal, and Alaska has the most extensive sea ice ever recorded.


Summary

For the past 30 years, NASA climate scientists under the leadership of Dr. Hansen have demonstrated nearly complete incompetence in forecasting, and they have tampered with data to try to hide their mispredictions.

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DirkH on June 3, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Hansen earns NASA 1.2 billion USD in Global Warming money a year.
http://notrickszone.com/2012/04/12/nasa-abdalatis-response-to-50-esteemed-professionals-is-managerial-negligence-an-embarrassment/#comment-92515
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/FY12-climate-fs.pdf

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TNSteve on March 2, 2014 at 12:58 am
You hit the nail on the head. Money for global warming and zero dollars to pursue real science and answers where ever they lead. Maybe he was hit on the head with a hockey stick? I know Ozone AL was hit on the head on too many times, but he and Soros still manages to make millions off his scientific opinions snowing the masses.


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Richard on June 10, 2012 at 5:22 am
NASA sounds like the Ministry of Truth from George Orwell.

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jimash1 on July 1, 2012 at 10:04 pm
There is a certain air of criminality to changing historical records .
A violation of the pubic trust that your average warmist just refuses to see.
Perhaps you missed this earlier post I put in here... (show quote)

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Oct 2, 2016 14:23:23   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Steven Goddard???????????????????????????? You really are that ignorant aren't you!

Tony Hellar (AKA; Steven Goddard) Exposed!

https//tonyhellerakastevengoddardisnotasociopath.wordpress.com/who-is-tony-heller/

Heller is a total fraud and certainly not a climatologist!

http//www.climate-skeptic.com/2014/06/my-thoughts-on-steven-goddard-and-his-fabricated-temperature-data-claim.html
You are the smartest man on earth, Wolfe. In every instance that you respond to someone who disagrees with you, you preface your snobbish remark with an insult. Everyone but you is "ignorant", "stupid", idiotic, moronic, or just plain dumb. I wonder what the world would be like if everyone was as smart as you.

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Oct 2, 2016 14:57:35   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You are the smartest man on earth, Wolfe. In every instance that you respond to someone who disagrees with you, you preface your snobbish remark with an insult. Everyone but you is "ignorant", "stupid", idiotic, moronic, or just plain dumb. I wonder what the world would be like if everyone was as smart as you.

BR; your sarcasm is noted "I wonder what the world would be like if everyone was as smart as you."
A useful idiot comes to mind, for the Loon:-)

375 scientists??
I was a mechanical engineer on many Petrochem refineries, and other chemical plants around the world for Fluor corporation. I know the additional equipment and processing needed to add the removal of CO2. Huge costs to be passed on to the consumer.
Then there is storage. You have no idea the space that would be required, and continue to accumulate over time.
It is ludicrous, for so many reasons.
All for very little effect on climate.

Scientist Confesses: “Global Warming a $22 Billion Scam”
Read more at http://conservativebyte.com/2015/03/scientist-confesses-global-warming-a-22-billion-scam/

This is a very comprehensive article. The facts are amazing. Liberals love to control their subjects by any means necessary.
Check it out:

Imagine, for a moment, sitting at a prestigious steakhouse in Palm Beach, Florida, a hot spot for some of the most wealthy and famous — Donald Trump, Tiger Woods, Oprah Winfrey, James Patterson, Rush Limbaugh, and hundreds more.

And, imagine dining with a handful of men you’ve only read about. Some of them are worth millions, others published best-selling books, and some have held prominent positions at the White House.

In essence, you’re sitting at a five-person table of VIPs.

You’re about to take a bite of your New York strip when one of the men, a top U.S. intelligence agent, slams a 164-page document in the middle of the table.

This document, you soon find out, contains damning evidence that a network of politicians, corporations, and scientists have conspired together to promote the fear of “global warming” . . . despite evidence clearly stating no such “global warming” exists.

The motive: $22 billion per year.

To be clear . . . that’s $22 billion of taxpayers’ money . . . the amount that our government pays to stop the “global warming” epidemic.

Continue Reading on www.newsmax.com ...

Read more at http://conservativebyte.com/2015/03/scientist-confesses-global-warming-a-22-billion-scam/

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Oct 2, 2016 15:15:29   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
You fools will believe anything!

The article by Newsmax and written by the non-climatologist Tony Luogno has been debunked many times!

http://environmentalforest.blogspot.com/2014/11/tom-luongos-multiple-lies-about-climate.html




eagleye13 wrote:
BR; your sarcasm is noted "I wonder what the world would be like if everyone was as smart as you."
A useful idiot comes to mind, for the Loon:-)

375 scientists??
I was a mechanical engineer on many Petrochem refineries, and other chemical plants around the world for Fluor corporation. I know the additional equipment and processing needed to add the removal of CO2. Huge costs to be passed on to the consumer.
Then there is storage. You have no idea the space that would be required, and continue to accumulate over time.
It is ludicrous, for so many reasons.
All for very little effect on climate.

Scientist Confesses: “Global Warming a $22 Billion Scam”
Read more at http://conservativebyte.com/2015/03/scientist-confesses-global-warming-a-22-billion-scam/

This is a very comprehensive article. The facts are amazing. Liberals love to control their subjects by any means necessary.
Check it out:

Imagine, for a moment, sitting at a prestigious steakhouse in Palm Beach, Florida, a hot spot for some of the most wealthy and famous — Donald Trump, Tiger Woods, Oprah Winfrey, James Patterson, Rush Limbaugh, and hundreds more.

And, imagine dining with a handful of men you’ve only read about. Some of them are worth millions, others published best-selling books, and some have held prominent positions at the White House.

In essence, you’re sitting at a five-person table of VIPs.

You’re about to take a bite of your New York strip when one of the men, a top U.S. intelligence agent, slams a 164-page document in the middle of the table.

This document, you soon find out, contains damning evidence that a network of politicians, corporations, and scientists have conspired together to promote the fear of “global warming” . . . despite evidence clearly stating no such “global warming” exists.

The motive: $22 billion per year.

To be clear . . . that’s $22 billion of taxpayers’ money . . . the amount that our government pays to stop the “global warming” epidemic.

Continue Reading on www.newsmax.com ...

Read more at http://conservativebyte.com/2015/03/scientist-confesses-global-warming-a-22-billion-scam/
BR; your sarcasm is noted "I wonder what the ... (show quote)

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Oct 2, 2016 15:21:36   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
You fools will believe anything!

The article by Newsmax and written by the non-climatologist Tony Luogno has been debunked many times!

http://environmentalforest.blogspot.com/2014/11/tom-luongos-multiple-lies-about-climate.html


Since you ignore this, loon; others may not;

I was a mechanical engineer on many Petrochem refineries, and other chemical plants around the world for Fluor corporation. I know the additional equipment and processing needed to add the removal of CO2. Huge costs to be passed on to the consumer.
Then there is storage. You have no idea the space that would be required, and continue to accumulate over time.
It is ludicrous, for so many reasons.
All for very little effect on climate.

Scientist Confesses: “Global Warming a $22 Billion Scam”
Read more at http://conservativebyte.com/2015/03/scientist-confesses-global-warming-a-22-billion-scam/

This is a very comprehensive article. The facts are amazing. Liberals love to control their subjects by any means necessary.
Check it out:

Imagine, for a moment, sitting at a prestigious steakhouse in Palm Beach, Florida, a hot spot for some of the most wealthy and famous — Donald Trump, Tiger Woods, Oprah Winfrey, James Patterson, Rush Limbaugh, and hundreds more.

And, imagine dining with a handful of men you’ve only read about. Some of them are worth millions, others published best-selling books, and some have held prominent positions at the White House.

In essence, you’re sitting at a five-person table of VIPs.

You’re about to take a bite of your New York strip when one of the men, a top U.S. intelligence agent, slams a 164-page document in the middle of the table.

This document, you soon find out, contains damning evidence that a network of politicians, corporations, and scientists have conspired together to promote the fear of “global warming” . . . despite evidence clearly stating no such “global warming” exists.

The motive: $22 billion per year.

To be clear . . . that’s $22 billion of taxpayers’ money . . . the amount that our government pays to stop the “global warming” epidemic.

Continue Reading on www.newsmax.com ...

Read more at http://conservativebyte.com/2015/03/scientist-confesses-global-warming-a-22-billion-scam/

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Oct 2, 2016 15:23:16   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
This is a very comprehensive article. The facts are amazing. Liberals love to control their subjects by any means necessary.
Check it out:

Imagine, for a moment, sitting at a prestigious steakhouse in Palm Beach, Florida, a hot spot for some of the most wealthy and famous — Donald Trump, Tiger Woods, Oprah Winfrey, James Patterson, Rush Limbaugh, and hundreds more.

And, imagine dining with a handful of men you’ve only read about. Some of them are worth millions, others published best-selling books, and some have held prominent positions at the White House.

In essence, you’re sitting at a five-person table of VIPs.

You’re about to take a bite of your New York strip when one of the men, a top U.S. intelligence agent, slams a 164-page document in the middle of the table....

Continue Reading on www.newsmax.com ...

Read more at http://conservativebyte.com/2015/03/scientist-confesses-global-warming-a-22-billion-scam/

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Oct 2, 2016 17:26:32   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
AGW is a political scam that uses pseudo-science to fool the gullible into believing this shit. It's the money, stupid.

13,950 Meaningless Search Results

Popular Technology

"Impartial Analysis of Popular Trends and Technology" Copyright © 2004-2016 Popular Technology

Internationally recognized by over 300 independent sources including Forbes, the International Journal of Modern Physics and the United States Senate.

In the never ending quest for alarmists to one up their incompetent friends they continue to seek out new ways to demonstrate their own computer illiteracy. Enter James Powell who in a meaningless analysis is apparently ignorant that the 'Web of Science' database does not have a "peer-reviewed" filter and the existence of a search phrase in a returned result does not determine it's context. Thus, all that can be claimed is there were 13,950 meaningless search results not "peer-reviewed scientific articles" for a query of the 'Web of Science' database - with 24 chosen by strawman argument.

1. The context of how the "search phrases" were used in all the results was never determined.

2. The results are padded by not using the search qualifier "anthropogenic".

3. The 13,950 results cannot be claimed to be peer-reviewed as the Web of Science does not have a peer-reviewed filter.

4. It is a strawman argument that skeptics deny or reject there has been a global temperature increase of a fraction of a degree since the end of the little ice age.


1. Context matters

The existence of a search phrase in a returned result does not determine its context. So making any arguments for or against an implied position relating to the use of a phrase by simply looking at numerical result totals is impossible. Powell never determined the context of how the search phrases were used in all the results.

Thus, Powell's 13,950 meaningless search results include ones irrelevant to the global warming debate such as,

Case study of visualizing global user download patterns using Google Earth and NASA World Wind
(Journal of Applied Remote Sensing, Volume 6, Issue 1, October 2012)
- Ziliang Zong et al.


2. Padding the Results

Powell padded his search results total by using the phrases; "global warming" and/or "global climate change" instead of "anthropogenic global warming" [man-made global warming] or "anthropogenic global climate change" [man-made global climate change], which would have significantly reduced the number of returned results. Without the qualifier "anthropogenic", results are included where no claim of explicit endorsement or rejection of ACC/AGW can be made.

Others alarmists have been challenged to search for the phrase, "anthropogenic climate change" using Oreskes (2004) methods and they only got 108 returned results. These low number of results are not useful to sell the type of propaganda alarmists like Powell are looking for.


3. Peer-Reviewed?

In his methods, Powell filtered his results by the 'articles' document type which includes content that may not be peer-reviewed depending on the specific journal,

Document Type Descriptions (Web of Science)

"Article: Reports of research on original works. Includes research papers, features, brief communications, case reports, technical notes, chronology, and full papers that were presented at a symposium or conference."

Categories like these have been the subject of debate and confusion in relation to their peer-review status,

"...three categories of articles have been published: review articles up to 10 000 words, original articles of 2500–5000 words and brief communications of 1000–2000 words. Only the first two categories were subject to peer review and brief communications were being published without this quality check." - Health Information and Libraries Journal

"Because of trends in submissions, Nature's Brief Communications will bow out at the end of the year. [...] False rumours that the section was not peer reviewed have occasionally circulated." - Nature



4. Strawman argument

By fabricating a strawman argument claiming he found only 24 papers "rejecting global warming", Powell intentionally misrepresented actual skeptic arguments and failed to count hundreds of peer-reviewed papers authored by skeptics such as,

Can increasing carbon dioxide cause climate change?
(Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, Volume 94, Number 16, pp. 8335-8342, August 1997)
- Richard S. Lindzen

* Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences is indexed in Web of Science (Science Citation Index).
* August 1997 is between January 1, 1991 and November 9, 2012.
* Can increasing carbon dioxide cause climate change? includes the search phrase "global warming".

and,

On the Observational Determination of Climate Sensitivity and Its Implications
(Asia-Pacific Journal of Atmospheric Sciences, Volume 47, Number 4, pp. 377-390, August 2011)
- Richard S. Lindzen, Yong-Sang Choi

* Asia-Pacific Journal of Atmospheric Sciences is indexed in Web of Science (Science Citation Index Expanded).
* August 2011 is between January 1, 1991 and November 9, 2012.
* On the Observational Determination of Climate Sensitivity and Its Implications includes the search phrase "global warming".

Powell then mentions, "Note that some papers that one might expect to find listed were classified as "Review" or "Editorial Material" by WoS. I did not count these." It is illogical why anyone would expect "Editorial Material" to be listed if they were looking for peer-reviewed content. However, he intentionally did not count review papers which are commonly peer-reviewed and considered scientifically valid such as,

CO2-induced global warming: a skeptic's view of potential climate change
(Climate Research, Volume 10, Number 1, pp. 69–82, April 1998)
- Sherwood B. Idso

* Climate Research is indexed in Web of Science (Science Citation Index).
* April 1998 is between January 1, 1991 and November 9, 2012.
* CO2-induced global warming: a skeptic's view of potential climate change includes the search phrase "global warming".

and,

The Global Warming Debate: A Review of the State of Science
(Pure and Applied Geophysics, Volume 162, Issue 8-9, pp. 1557-1586, August 2005)
- Madhav L. Khandekar, T. S. Murty, P. Chittibabu

* Pure and Applied Geophysics is indexed in Web of Science (Science Citation Index).
* August 2005 is between January 1, 1991 and November 9, 2012.
* The Global Warming Debate: A Review of the State of Science includes the search phrase "global warming".


Conclusion

In a true sense of irony Powell uses his meaningless analysis as a defense of Oreskes (2004) which is considered useless by world renowned climate experts,

"Analyses like these by people who don't know the field are useless. A good example is Naomi Oreskes work." - Tom Wigley, Fellow, American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS)

He then attempts to smear skeptics as "global warming deniers". This is a dishonest ad hominem as skeptics believe there has been a global temperature increase of a fraction of a degree since the end of the little ice age.

Powell's pie chart is simply propaganda for those who are intellectual dishonest and want to be intentionally misleading about actual skeptic arguments or the over 1100 peer-reviewed papers that support them.
AGW is a political scam that uses pseudo-science t... (show quote)


Good post BR. That 13,950 number included some articles that simply mentioned "global warming" in any way, and "peer reviewed" wasn't actually a search filter.

Sadly, the possibility of man-made climate change needs continued study, but the climate change hoaxers are so set on immediately instituting their political and financial agendas, which they have thoroughly mixed with their fake climate change claims, that they are now against any further study.

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Oct 2, 2016 18:27:19   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Of course a fool such as you, has never heard of James Hansen!


You mean old Hockey Stick, the man who created the false graph by ignoring the Holocene Optimum, the Roman Warm period, the Medieval Warm period and the Little ice Age , revealed in the e-mails he had to release as the result of a FOIA demand and claimed he was illegally hacked, THAT'S your EXPERT, you just proved you are unbelievable at any level.

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Oct 2, 2016 18:49:33   #
Morgan
 
eagleye13 wrote:
BR; your sarcasm is noted "I wonder what the world would be like if everyone was as smart as you."
A useful idiot comes to mind, for the Loon:-)

375 scientists??
I was a mechanical engineer on many Petrochem refineries, and other chemical plants around the world for Fluor corporation. I know the additional equipment and processing needed to add the removal of CO2. Huge costs to be passed on to the consumer.
Then there is storage. You have no idea the space that would be required, and continue to accumulate over time.
It is ludicrous, for so many reasons.
All for very little effect on climate.

Scientist Confesses: “Global Warming a $22 Billion Scam”
Read more at http://conservativebyte.com/2015/03/scientist-confesses-global-warming-a-22-billion-scam/

This is a very comprehensive article. The facts are amazing. Liberals love to control their subjects by any means necessary.
Check it out:

Imagine, for a moment, sitting at a prestigious steakhouse in Palm Beach, Florida, a hot spot for some of the most wealthy and famous — Donald Trump, Tiger Woods, Oprah Winfrey, James Patterson, Rush Limbaugh, and hundreds more.

And, imagine dining with a handful of men you’ve only read about. Some of them are worth millions, others published best-selling books, and some have held prominent positions at the White House.

In essence, you’re sitting at a five-person table of VIPs.

You’re about to take a bite of your New York strip when one of the men, a top U.S. intelligence agent, slams a 164-page document in the middle of the table.

This document, you soon find out, contains damning evidence that a network of politicians, corporations, and scientists have conspired together to promote the fear of “global warming” . . . despite evidence clearly stating no such “global warming” exists.

The motive: $22 billion per year.

To be clear . . . that’s $22 billion of taxpayers’ money . . . the amount that our government pays to stop the “global warming” epidemic.

Continue Reading on www.newsmax.com ...

Read more at http://conservativebyte.com/2015/03/scientist-confesses-global-warming-a-22-billion-scam/
BR; your sarcasm is noted "I wonder what the ... (show quote)



Ah yes the alleged 164 page document... heard it all before, where ya been? Bite chew chew chew, gulp you guys do it every time.

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