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For All You Parlor Bolsheviks
Sep 19, 2016 12:45:17   #
KiraSeer2016
 
http://www.dropbox.com/s/yj6dtco4jry2f79/10-27-1934%20Ayn%20Rand%20Letter%20to%20Jean%20Wick.pdf?dl=0

The above is a link to a letter written by Ayn Rand in 1934, in regard to her forthcoming book: "We The Living". I advise you to read it. In the midst of this letter she states: "The American reader has no knowledge of it whatsoever. [Referring to life in Leningrad, shortly after Lenin came to power.] If he had---we would not have the appalling number of parlor Bolsheviks and idealistic sympathizers with the Soviet regime, liberals who would scream with horror if they knew the truth of Soviet existence."

But let me explain a portion of this letter (lest you think Rand's philosophy is uncaring) where, in about the middle, she states: "Mr. Benefield [an editor at Appleton-Century-Crofts] wonders why I stop in the last chapter to present the biography of the soldier who kills Kira Argounova. That stop, in my opinion, is one of the best things in the book.. It contains---in a few pages---the whole idea and purpose of the novel. After the reader has seen Kira Argounova, has learned what a rare, precious, irreplaceable human being she was---I give him the picture of the man who killed Kira Argounova, of the life that took her life. That soldier is a symbol, a typical representative of the average, the dull, the useless, the commonplace, the masses---that killed the best there is on this earth. I believe I made this obvious when I concluded his biography by saying---quoting from the book: "Citizen Ivan Ivanov was guarding the border of the Union of Socialist Soviet Republics." Citizen Ivan Ivanov IS the Union of Socialist Soviet Republics. And that Union killed Kira Argounova. Kira Argounova against citizen Ivan Ivanov---that is the whole book in a few pages."

What Rand means is that, instead of extolling the virtuous, the competent, the "ideal" (all the best there is in human nature), communism exalts the mediocre, the indifferent, the "masses"---and in this case, the immoral---

And because Communism and Socialism degrade the individual, any particular human life becomes dispensable, and thus meaningless. In that idiotology, all humans are identical. Bricks without meaning unless they are attached to other bricks.

"But you should never have taken the very best". (Quote from Robbie Robinson).

And just so you will understand, "Kira" is the Russian, feminized form of the name "Carol" (Karol--Kyrill).

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Sep 19, 2016 12:51:01   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
Excellent, unfortunately, those on the Left, the Liberal, the Progressives won't read and if they did won't accept the truth...

As a friend of mine use to say: "Keep Punching"... Don D.



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KiraSeer2016 wrote:
http://www.dropbox.com/s/yj6dtco4jry2f79/10-27-1934%20Ayn%20Rand%20Letter%20to%20Jean%20Wick.pdf?dl=0

The above is a link to a letter written by Ayn Rand in 1934, in regard to her forthcoming book: "We The Living". I advise you to read it. In the midst of this letter she states: "The American reader has no knowledge of it whatsoever. [Referring to life in Leningrad, shortly after Lenin came to power.] If he had---we would not have the appalling number of parlor Bolsheviks and idealistic sympathizers with the Soviet regime, liberals who would scream with horror if they knew the truth of Soviet existence."

But let me explain a portion of this letter (lest you think Rand's philosophy is uncaring) where, in about the middle, she states: "Mr. Benefield [an editor at Appleton-Century-Crofts] wonders why I stop in the last chapter to present the biography of the soldier who kills Kira Argounova. That stop, in my opinion, is one of the best things in the book.. It contains---in a few pages---the whole idea and purpose of the novel. After the reader has seen Kira Argounova, has learned what a rare, precious, irreplaceable human being she was---I give him the picture of the man who killed Kira Argounova, of the life that took her life. That soldier is a symbol, a typical representative of the average, the dull, the useless, the commonplace, the masses---that killed the best there is on this earth. I believe I made this obvious when I concluded his biography by saying---quoting from the book: "Citizen Ivan Ivanov was guarding the border of the Union of Socialist Soviet Republics." Citizen Ivan Ivanov IS the Union of Socialist Soviet Republics. And that Union killed Kira Argounova. Kira Argounova against citizen Ivan Ivanov---that is the whole book in a few pages."

What Rand means is that, instead of extolling the virtuous, the competent, the "ideal" (all the best there is in human nature), communism exalts the mediocre, the indifferent, the "masses"---and in this case, the immoral---

And because Communism and Socialism degrade the individual, any particular human life becomes dispensable, and thus meaningless. In that idiotology, all humans are identical. Bricks without meaning unless they are attached to other bricks.

"But you should never have taken the very best". (Quote from Robbie Robinson).

And just so you will understand, "Kira" is the Russian, feminized form of the name "Carol" (Karol--Kyrill).
http://www.dropbox.com/s/yj6dtco4jry2f79/10-27-193... (show quote)

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Sep 19, 2016 13:00:56   #
KiraSeer2016
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Excellent, unfortunately, those on the Left, the Liberal, the Progressives won't read and if they did won't accept the truth...

As a friend of mine use to say: "Keep Punching"... Don D.



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If they do not want to read it, it only shows their tremendous lack of both intelligence and feelings of competence. They are, after all, the "masses" and only average. And in some cases, morons.

But it is at least ammunition for those who believe in the best of human nature.

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Sep 19, 2016 13:15:08   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Excellent, unfortunately, those on the Left, the Liberal, the Progressives won't read and if they did won't accept the truth...

As a friend of mine use to say: "Keep Punching"... Don D.



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Yep;
This brings to mind; The State killing a very good man, the best, Lavoy Finicum, and the masses having no clue, or caring.
I am reading Lavoy Finicum's novel right now; 'Only By Blood and Suffering, Regaining Lost Freedom'
An awesome read any patriot would cherish. I strongly suggest buying one and sharing it.
http://www.amazon.com/Only-Blood-Suffering-LaVoy-Finicum/dp/193773594X%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-d-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3D193773594X

A blacked out "trial" of the other ranchers is going on right now in Oregon.

On Tuesday, January 26, 2016, author LaVoy Finicum was killed by federal and/or state "authorities" after a three week occupation of the Malheur Wildlife Reserve in Burn, OR. Details of the shooting are in dispute and full details have not been released by the FBI or state officials. Eye-witnesses insist that LaVoy was murdered. His family is devastated at the loss of their beloved father, grandfather and husband. As publisher, we here at Legends Library have decided to donate 100% of the proceeds from the sale of LaVoy's book to the support of his wife and family. Story overview, tells of one family's struggle to come together and survive in the midst of national crisis. A stirring, fast-paced novel about what matters most in the face of devastating end-times chaos. Filled with gripping action and relatable characters, readers are drawn into the heart-rending dilemmas each member of the Bonham family faces. You may even find yourself stopping to ask, "What would I have done in that situation?" LaVoy Finicum is a real life Northern Arizona Rancher who loves nothing more in life than God, freedom, and family. His spine tingling storytelling conveys in graphic detail just how fragile and precious freedom truly is and leaves his readers with an increased desire to stand for freedom wherever possible. Reader Comments: "From the opening scene I was captured, I could scarcely put the book down until I had devoured the whole thing" (Reader) "A book you do not want to read, but must..." Cliven Bundy "Last Rancher Standing" written by Shawna Cox. Read the other reviews below, but beware that trolls have been hoovering around ever since LaVoy became a public figure in early Jan 2016.

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Sep 19, 2016 13:17:21   #
KiraSeer2016
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Yep;
This brings to mind; The State killing a very good man, the best, Lavoy Finicum, and the masses having no clue, or caring.
I am reading Lavoy Finicum's novel right now; 'Only By Blood and Suffering, Regaining Lost Freedom'
An awesome read any patriot would cherish. I strongly suggest buying one and sharing it.

A blacked out "trial" of the other ranchers is going on right now in Oregon.


Sounds good, EE. I'll try to get a copy this week.

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Sep 19, 2016 13:37:43   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
KiraSeer2016 wrote:
Sounds good, EE. I'll try to get a copy this week.

http://www.amazon.com/Only-Blood-Suffering-LaVoy-Finicum/dp/193773594X%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-d-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3D193773594X

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Sep 19, 2016 13:39:39   #
KiraSeer2016
 
eagleye13 wrote:
http://www.amazon.com/Only-Blood-Suffering-LaVoy-Finicum/dp/193773594X%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-d-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3D193773594X


Thanks. I get paid Wednesday.

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Sep 19, 2016 19:37:28   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
KiraSeer2016 wrote:
If they do not want to read it, it only shows their tremendous lack of both intelligence and feelings of competence. They are, after all, the "masses" and only average. And in some cases, morons.

But it is at least ammunition for those who believe in the best of human nature.



It's funny how selective the right is in using Ms. Rand. Here are some other quotes:

...If devotion to truth is the hallmark of morality, then there is no greater, nobler, more heroic form of devotion than the act of a man who assumes the responsibility of thinking.... the alleged short-cut to knowledge, which is faith, is only a short-circuit destroying the mind.[Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged]

Qua religion, no - in the sense of blind belief, belief unsupported by, or contrary to, the facts of reality and the conclusions of reason. Faith, as such, is extremely detrimental to human life: it is the negation of reason. But you must remember that religion is an early form of philosophy, that the first attempts to explain the universe, to give a coherent frame of reference to man's life and a code of moral values, were made by religion, before men graduated or developed enough to have philosophy. And, as philosophies, some religions have very valuable moral points. They may have a good influence or proper principles to inculcate, but in a very contradictory context and, on a very - how should I say it? - dangerous or malevolent base: on the ground of faith. [Playboy interview with Ayn Rand]

Faith is the worst curse of mankind, as the exact antithesis and enemy of thought.

To rest one's case on faith means to concede that reason is on the side of one's enemies- that one has no rational arguments to offer.



Is she right? Are believers without rational thought? And if she is wrong about that, why can't she be wrong about other things she writes?

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Sep 20, 2016 12:30:54   #
KiraSeer2016
 
working class stiff wrote:
It's funny how selective the right is in using Ms. Rand. Here are some other quotes:

...If devotion to truth is the hallmark of morality, then there is no greater, nobler, more heroic form of devotion than the act of a man who assumes the responsibility of thinking.... the alleged short-cut to knowledge, which is faith, is only a short-circuit destroying the mind.[Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged]

Qua religion, no - in the sense of blind belief, belief unsupported by, or contrary to, the facts of reality and the conclusions of reason. Faith, as such, is extremely detrimental to human life: it is the negation of reason. But you must remember that religion is an early form of philosophy, that the first attempts to explain the universe, to give a coherent frame of reference to man's life and a code of moral values, were made by religion, before men graduated or developed enough to have philosophy. And, as philosophies, some religions have very valuable moral points. They may have a good influence or proper principles to inculcate, but in a very contradictory context and, on a very - how should I say it? - dangerous or malevolent base: on the ground of faith. [Playboy interview with Ayn Rand]

Faith is the worst curse of mankind, as the exact antithesis and enemy of thought.

To rest one's case on faith means to concede that reason is on the side of one's enemies- that one has no rational arguments to offer.



Is she right? Are believers without rational thought? And if she is wrong about that, why can't she be wrong about other things she writes?
It's funny how selective the right is in using Ms.... (show quote)


You know, WCS, I've thought about this. And you have a valid right to ask that question. I believe, that on a deep level of consciousness she never gave up a belief in God (and maybe it wasn't all that deep, either.) I truly think she "advocated"---but not actually accepted---atheism, for two reasons:

1. She felt that those in the philosophy disciplines would ridicule her for having "faith"---just as they tried to do to me---and that therefore her philosophy would not be taken seriously.

2. She, like myself, was against some in religion who hold that man, or maybe even mankind, is lower than the the lowest of life forms; she wanted to exalt the best in mankind, unlike some religionists who saw mankind as unworthy.

But of course faith and reason can coexist. (Ask any Muslim). In fact, it is only if man has faith in a "greater reality" can he see the order and rationality in the universe. Look what happened when 19th century European philosophers gave up a belief in God, and for the most part, this was due to what I call adolescent conceit (having matured to the level of adolescence, man, like all adolescents, wanted to believe his "parents" knew nothing). This gave rise to that malignancy of philosophy, starting with Rousseau, then Hegel, Marx, Lenin, et al.

And by the by, Michael Faraday, whose meticulous experiments in chemistry and electricity allowed man to harness the power of electromagnetism, was a firm believer in God. He was a Sandemanian.

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Sep 20, 2016 15:55:17   #
mcmlx
 
KiraSeer2016 wrote:
http://www.dropbox.com/s/yj6dtco4jry2f79/10-27-1934%20Ayn%20Rand%20Letter%20to%20Jean%20Wick.pdf?dl=0

The above is a link to a letter written by Ayn Rand in 1934, in regard to her forthcoming book: "We The Living". I advise you to read it. In the midst of this letter she states: "The American reader has no knowledge of it whatsoever. [Referring to life in Leningrad, shortly after Lenin came to power.] If he had---we would not have the appalling number of parlor Bolsheviks and idealistic sympathizers with the Soviet regime, liberals who would scream with horror if they knew the truth of Soviet existence."

But let me explain a portion of this letter (lest you think Rand's philosophy is uncaring) where, in about the middle, she states: "Mr. Benefield [an editor at Appleton-Century-Crofts] wonders why I stop in the last chapter to present the biography of the soldier who kills Kira Argounova. That stop, in my opinion, is one of the best things in the book.. It contains---in a few pages---the whole idea and purpose of the novel. After the reader has seen Kira Argounova, has learned what a rare, precious, irreplaceable human being she was---I give him the picture of the man who killed Kira Argounova, of the life that took her life. That soldier is a symbol, a typical representative of the average, the dull, the useless, the commonplace, the masses---that killed the best there is on this earth. I believe I made this obvious when I concluded his biography by saying---quoting from the book: "Citizen Ivan Ivanov was guarding the border of the Union of Socialist Soviet Republics." Citizen Ivan Ivanov IS the Union of Socialist Soviet Republics. And that Union killed Kira Argounova. Kira Argounova against citizen Ivan Ivanov---that is the whole book in a few pages."

What Rand means is that, instead of extolling the virtuous, the competent, the "ideal" (all the best there is in human nature), communism exalts the mediocre, the indifferent, the "masses"---and in this case, the immoral---

And because Communism and Socialism degrade the individual, any particular human life becomes dispensable, and thus meaningless. In that idiotology, all humans are identical. Bricks without meaning unless they are attached to other bricks.

"But you should never have taken the very best". (Quote from Robbie Robinson).

And just so you will understand, "Kira" is the Russian, feminized form of the name "Carol" (Karol--Kyrill).
http://www.dropbox.com/s/yj6dtco4jry2f79/10-27-193... (show quote)




I remember when you told us about the change of name a few months ago.
Cool. You used to be Carolseer.
I admire Ayn Rand and really appreciate the reminder to get the books down and do some serious reading again. Been slacking in that area.
On a Not so serious note. Do you think that the Vlad is hot, in a Donald kind of way?

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