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Sep 10, 2016 11:18:22   #
Anigav6969
 
Since he refuses to release his taxes, we'll probably never know.....he praises the former head of the KGB and gets support from conservatives !!....times certainly have changed

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Sep 10, 2016 12:37:16   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Since he refuses to release his taxes, we'll probably never know.....he praises the former head of the KGB and gets support from conservatives !!....times certainly have changed


How can you be critical of the Man who is viewed by so many as their savior?

We all know God works in mysterious ways. Who am I to doubt that this self proclaimed Messiah is not what he claims to be?

Just what will befall me if I don't vote for him, or even if his Pac is with the Devil.

Oh well I will pray for Us all to be saved.

I just hope I survive what ever happens.

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Sep 10, 2016 13:03:24   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
How can you be critical of the Man who is viewed by so many as their savior?

We all know God works in mysterious ways. Who am I to doubt that this self proclaimed Messiah is not what he claims to be?

Just what will befall me if I don't vote for him, or even if his Pac is with the Devil.

Oh well I will pray for Us all to be saved.

I just hope I survive what ever happens.


Floyd-I do not view Trump as a savior but I do view him as head and shoulders above the alternative. Don't believe Trump has any ties to Russia. He has stated that he had an opportunity to do business there but chose not to do so. I do not see anything wrong with Trump respecting Putin as a leader especially when compared to Obama. You are obviously a good person who wants the best for America. Unfortunately, our choices are less than ideal this time around. Hillary's track record speaks for itself and I find it diffucult to believe that this avowed liar who sold access for money is even in the race . She has proven time and again that she is not trustworthy but people still support her. This country has sunk to a new low and I dread the thought of four more years of malaise. If we elect an insder, the corruption is guaranteed to continue unabated. Good Luck America !!!

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Sep 10, 2016 15:26:52   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Ricko wrote:
Floyd-I do not view Trump as a savior but I do view him as head and shoulders above the alternative. Don't believe Trump has any ties to Russia. He has stated that he had an opportunity to do business there but chose not to do so. I do not see anything wrong with Trump respecting Putin as a leader especially when compared to Obama. You are obviously a good person who wants the best for America. Unfortunately, our choices are less than ideal this time around. Hillary's track record speaks for itself and I find it diffucult to believe that this avowed liar who sold access for money is even in the race . She has proven time and again that she is not trustworthy but people still support her. This country has sunk to a new low and I dread the thought of four more years of malaise. If we elect an insder, the corruption is guaranteed to continue unabated. Good Luck America !!!
Floyd-I do not view Trump as a savior but I do vie... (show quote)


Then It must not be you that is looking for Trump to save you but to avoid Clinton.

The lesser evil of the 2.
In supporting Trump you are or any one supporting Clinton for that matter is playing in to the power structure.

I have stated I will not vote for either because neither deserves to have the job.

Now it is not a waste of my vote for me to vote for one of the other candidates. But each vote for one of the other candidates sends a small message that there at those that are fed up with main stream Politics.

It will not be a win in any sense for the voting Public Put if enough do vote for others the idea may sink in that they can not count on the Public rubber stamping their choices.

To many do not want to think to deep on issues. Doing so we short sight us into just more problems. We have been doing that for to long & now we are so divided we have very little hope left. If we are going make any inroads to truly get the country back that we want we can not settle for what would a victory for the Power structure.

No matter what Trump would say He will do He will only do what the Power Structure lets him get away with. As goes for Clinton. For too long too many have bought into the Idea that we have a 2 party system. Government has come under the control of outside forces who have bought the votes of those elected.

There will never be any changes to what we have by seeking some one chosen by the those in control of one or the other fake Party's.

Nor are we to put any real trust in what the media puts out.

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Sep 10, 2016 17:25:36   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Then It must not be you that is looking for Trump to save you but to avoid Clinton.

The lesser evil of the 2.
In supporting Trump you are or any one supporting Clinton for that matter is playing in to the power structure.

I have stated I will not vote for either because neither deserves to have the job.

Now it is not a waste of my vote for me to vote for one of the other candidates. But each vote for one of the other candidates sends a small message that there at those that are fed up with main stream Politics.

It will not be a win in any sense for the voting Public Put if enough do vote for others the idea may sink in that they can not count on the Public rubber stamping their choices.

To many do not want to think to deep on issues. Doing so we short sight us into just more problems. We have been doing that for to long & now we are so divided we have very little hope left. If we are going make any inroads to truly get the country back that we want we can not settle for what would a victory for the Power structure.

No matter what Trump would say He will do He will only do what the Power Structure lets him get away with. As goes for Clinton. For too long too many have bought into the Idea that we have a 2 party system. Government has come under the control of outside forces who have bought the votes of those elected.

There will never be any changes to what we have by seeking some one chosen by the those in control of one or the other fake Party's.

Nor are we to put any real trust in what the media puts out.
Then It must not be you that is looking for Trump ... (show quote)


Floyd-I understand your frustration. However, one of the two will win. So, why not give the outsider an opportunity to show us what he can do. The insider has already been tested and failed miserably. Your vote for another candidate is your right but it is misguided in that in enhances Hillary's chances of winning since she starts off way ahead of the republican in the electoral vote count. All you are doing by not voting Trump is making it more difficult for him to overcome the deficit. So your vote will count whether you intend it or not. A vote for Gary is a democrat vote. PS. One consolation you have is that Gary will never send you to Aleppo. Good Luck America !!!

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Sep 11, 2016 02:53:39   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Ricko wrote:
Floyd-I understand your frustration. However, one of the two will win. So, why not give the outsider an opportunity to show us what he can do. The insider has already been tested and failed miserably. Your vote for another candidate is your right but it is misguided in that in enhances Hillary's chances of winning since she starts off way ahead of the republican in the electoral vote count. All you are doing by not voting Trump is making it more difficult for him to overcome the deficit. So your vote will count whether you intend it or not. A vote for Gary is a democrat vote. PS. One consolation you have is that Gary will never send you to Aleppo. Good Luck America !!!
Floyd-I understand your frustration. However, one... (show quote)


I don't think any one is going to send me any where. There is not much use to any one any more in my old body.

There don't seem to be much interest in what comes out of my brain either.

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Sep 11, 2016 07:37:15   #
Elaine
 
Look you all need to do research like I do. President Putin of Russia is a good guy. Just see JESSE VEN TURRA s interview with Alex Jones infowars .com. JESSE has been doing a tv show in Russia since 2015. He met Vladamir. They have total freedom of SPEACH in Russia now. THEY HAVE CAPITALISM VLADAMIR IS PUTTING THE POOR IN THEIR OWN HOUSES. AND GIVING THEM ALL THE HELP HE CAN SO THEY CAN FLOURISH FINANCIALLY. He has taken a stand against the New World Order .Wake up here THE BUSHES AND THE CLINTONS ARE PART OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER. THEY HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF MAKING US BE POOR AND TAKING AWAY EVERY RIGHT WE SHOULD HAVE.MEANWHILE IN RUSSIA THERE ARE MANY CHRISTAIN NOW AND YOU ARE FREE TO PRACTICE ANY RELIGION TO CHOOSE. MR PUTIN HEARS THE PEOPLE AND ACTS IN THEIR BEST INTRESTS. AND OF COURSE THE NEW WORLD ORDER CAN'T HAVE THAT. THEY WANT GLOBAL DOMINATION AND TOTAL CONTROL OVER EVERY HUMAN BEING ON THE PLANET. MR PUTIN IS ANOTHER JFK. LOOK UP HIS ACCEPTANCE SPEACH OF BEING THE PRESIDENT IF RUSSIA ON YOU TUBE IN THE YEAR 2008. AND ALL HIS WONDERFUL OTHER SPEACHES. AND FINALLY LISTEN TO JEFF RENSE SHOW JOYCE REILLY SHOW. AND JUSTICE WITH JUDGE JEANINE AND Trey Gowdy all on you tube so you will begin to understand what is really going on before you vote in november. And look up all the Christain dreams and prophecies coming out that Mr Trump Is God's chosen one to save America .This can be found on you tube also. And yes we need to vote by paper ballot because in one of the Christain dreams a man pointed out they have been rigging the voting machines the last few elections. Th Collier brothers lost there lives because they were going to expose Diboll for rigging our elections. And Mr putin does not want ISIS in Russia is why he is helping Syria get rid of them.I beg you please do this research on you tube

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Sep 11, 2016 08:46:01   #
old woman
 
Yes Putin is a big Criminal has a lot of blood on his hands but HE LOVES MOTHER RUSSIA HE IS A REALLY LEADER He hate Obama because Obama is destroying the Muddle East and the World He do not want One World Order he do not want the ISIS NO MUSLIMS in his Country He is a Orthodox Christian Russia is or use to be the biggest Orthodox Country on the World He loves the Country and yes he is very strong to protect his Country One thong about Marxism they Protect there Country and there People America Wake up Is not Putin or Russia IT IS THE ISLAMIC AND THE MORE PROBLEMS ARE THE GLOBALISM LIKE CLLINTONS BUSHES AND SOROS AND A LOT MOORE PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT AMERICA THEY WANT THIS GREAT COUNTRY TO BE DESTROY PUTIN BRLIVES THAT TRUMP IT IS A LEADER AND THAT HE LOVES AMERICA LIKE PUTIN LOVES RUSSIA

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Sep 11, 2016 08:54:51   #
Mollie
 
With the Clinton's and the democrat party they always accuse their opponent of what they themselves are guilty of in order for you to look away from what's really going on. I think her selling 20% of our uranium to Russia is only the tip of the iceberg. What connection does Trump have that's even close to this?

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Sep 11, 2016 09:33:09   #
Gatsby
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Then It must not be you that is looking for Trump to save you but to avoid Clinton.

The lesser evil of the 2.
In supporting Trump you are or any one supporting Clinton for that matter is playing in to the power structure.

I have stated I will not vote for either because neither deserves to have the job.

Now it is not a waste of my vote for me to vote for one of the other candidates. But each vote for one of the other candidates sends a small message that there at those that are fed up with main stream Politics.

It will not be a win in any sense for the voting Public Put if enough do vote for others the idea may sink in that they can not count on the Public rubber stamping their choices.

To many do not want to think to deep on issues. Doing so we short sight us into just more problems. We have been doing that for to long & now we are so divided we have very little hope left. If we are going make any inroads to truly get the country back that we want we can not settle for what would a victory for the Power structure.

No matter what Trump would say He will do He will only do what the Power Structure lets him get away with. As goes for Clinton. For too long too many have bought into the Idea that we have a 2 party system. Government has come under the control of outside forces who have bought the votes of those elected.

There will never be any changes to what we have by seeking some one chosen by the those in control of one or the other fake Party's.

Nor are we to put any real trust in what the media puts out.
Then It must not be you that is looking for Trump ... (show quote)


Floyd:

First, in your statement; In supporting Trump you are.......playing into the "power structure".
You seem to imply that, Trump is part of this "power structure". That is simply not so.
Trump was, and still is, the ONLY true political Outsider in this race.
Bush was the choice of the republican "power structure" (the RNC and their mega donors).
In spite of the short time he was in the race, Bush raised, and spent, more campaign money than any other republican candidate.
The republican "power structure" has done everything, within its considerable ability, to attempt to stop Trump, all to no avail.
Donald Trump is the republican candidate Only because he was the first choice of the republican VOTERS.

Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, was THE choice of the democratic "power structure", and has been since 2009.
Sanders was the outsider on the democratic side, an independent, who ran on the democratic ticket, the popular candidate,
who was effective shut out by the democratic super delegates, the true "power structure" of the democratic party.

Next, you say that you want to send a "small message" that there are those that are fed up with mainstream politics;
and you hope to do this by casting a protest vote, a vote which, in reality, will be little noted,nor long remembered.
Bernie Sanders, and his supporters, sent a "Big Message" to the DNC, one which was heard, but effectively stifled.

The republican voters did not "Rubber Stamp" Trumps nomination, the republican primary voters CHOSE Donald Trump to represent them.
I will vote for Donald Trump first because I like his foreign policy, economic policy, defense policy, immigration policy and more.
But Also because electing Donald Trump, a total political outsider, a virtual David who did defeat the virtual Goliath of the RNC "power structure"; will send a "HUGE MESSAGE",to that "power structure" and not just a message that we are fed up with mainstream politics, but a WARNING that "TIMES HAVE CHANGED IN AMERICA, GET ON BOARD OR GET A DIFFERENT JOB!"

If Donald Trump is elected president, it will be the second time in history that American Patriots will have fired a,
"Shot Heard Round the World".

As for the idea that we have a two party system, the reality is, that for all practical purposes, we Do have a two party system.
The two party system is not the problem, the problem is the people who control the political parties, the mega wealthy donors who form the "power structure". A system where 90% of the time the candidate who raises the most money, the quickest, wins the election.
A system where the Koch brothers, George Soros, the big banksters, multi-national corporations,
and their like, completely control the leadership of the national parties, with their purse strings.

Trump will only do what the "power structure" lets him get away with you say?
The "power structure" will only be able to do what Trump Lets Them get away with, republicans and democrats
will have to work in a bipartisan manner, as intended, to over ride veto's, if they insist upon having Their Way.

Electing Donald Trump President in 2016 is Page One, of a New Map Forward for this Nation, in two years we will be submitting Page Two!

Semper Fi.

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Sep 11, 2016 11:51:10   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Gatsby wrote:
Floyd:

First, in your statement; In supporting Trump you are.......playing into the "power structure".

You seem to imply that, Trump is part of this "power structure". That is simply not so.
Trump was, and still is, the ONLY true political Outsider in this race.
Bush was the choice of the republican "power structure" (the RNC and their mega donors).
In spite of the short time he was in the race, Bush raised, and spent, more campaign money than any other republican candidate.
The republican "power structure" has done everything, within its considerable ability, to attempt to stop Trump, all to no avail.
Donald Trump is the republican candidate Only because he was the first choice of the republican VOTERS.

Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, was THE choice of the democratic "power structure", and has been since 2009.
Sanders was the outsider on the democratic side, an independent, who ran on the democratic ticket, the popular candidate,
who was effective shut out by the democratic super delegates, the true "power structure" of the democratic party.

Next, you say that you want to send a "small message" that there are those that are fed up with mainstream politics;
and you hope to do this by casting a protest vote, a vote which, in reality, will be little noted,nor long remembered.
Bernie Sanders, and his supporters, sent a "Big Message" to the DNC, one which was heard, but effectively stifled.

The republican voters did not "Rubber Stamp" Trumps nomination, the republican primary voters CHOSE Donald Trump to represent them.
I will vote for Donald Trump first because I like his foreign policy, economic policy, defense policy, immigration policy and more.
But Also because electing Donald Trump, a total political outsider, a virtual David who did defeat the virtual Goliath of the RNC "power structure"; will send a "HUGE MESSAGE",to that "power structure" and not just a message that we are fed up with mainstream politics, but a WARNING that "TIMES HAVE CHANGED IN AMERICA, GET ON BOARD OR GET A DIFFERENT JOB!"

If Donald Trump is elected president, it will be the second time in history that American Patriots will have fired a,
"Shot Heard Round the World".

As for the idea that we have a two party system, the reality is, that for all practical purposes, we Do have a two party system.
The two party system is not the problem, the problem is the people who control the political parties, the mega wealthy donors who form the "power structure". A system where 90% of the time the candidate who raises the most money, the quickest, wins the election.
A system where the Koch brothers, George Soros, the big banksters, multi-national corporations,
and their like, completely control the leadership of the national parties, with their purse strings.

Trump will only do what the "power structure" lets him get away with you say?
The "power structure" will only be able to do what Trump Lets Them get away with, republicans and democrats
will have to work in a bipartisan manner, as intended, to over ride veto's, if they insist upon having Their Way.

Electing Donald Trump President in 2016 is Page One, of a New Map Forward for this Nation, in two years we will be submitting Page Two!

Semper Fi.
Floyd: br br First, in your statement; In suppor... (show quote)


Well we both have had our say & we can come back to this issue as many times as we want to in the future if every thing is saved.

Let me just say I do not share your confidence in Trump. I stand by my words that in time will prove to be closer to the truth than yours.

So either way I fail to see any changing in the way this country is being run. After all is said & done the people with the real power will still have the most power & perhaps even more.

Trump don't need to be in their pocket. They will continue to control all they wish to control. Obama was in the their pocket GW Bush was in their pocket. Want to go back farther. From the very start or this Nation the power has been in a few hands. Look at any Nation in the World today & it is all the same. It is the few who control the masses for their personal gains. There have been some efforts in America to minimize the harsher affects of life but the effort to under any of the things that were done to help the average person are under great pressure to be undone. The support for Trump stems from that unrest coming from those now feeling the pressures on them self that where in the past reserved for those that are now looking for a say in what is going to be our future.

Going back to when these angry White Males were treated with more respect. I am a White Male. The world is changing & I am making the point that the White Male is not going to be in charge or the World. He will have to share it with others & the sooner he gets a clue the better his future will be. The more his input will be accepted.

Change what you can or be left to accept what you can't.

You see I don't really care what ever is done I know what ever will be done is not going to make my life really any better & more that likely it will not be as good.

Well that is enough for today you will have to feel more pain before you see the light. The pain that will come when the savior lets you down.

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Sep 11, 2016 13:00:18   #
mcmlx
 
old woman wrote:
Yes Putin is a big Criminal has a lot of blood on his hands but HE LOVES MOTHER RUSSIA HE IS A REALLY LEADER He hate Obama because Obama is destroying the Muddle East and the World He do not want One World Order he do not want the ISIS NO MUSLIMS in his Country He is a Orthodox Christian Russia is or use to be the biggest Orthodox Country on the World He loves the Country and yes he is very strong to protect his Country One thong about Marxism they Protect there Country and there People America Wake up Is not Putin or Russia IT IS THE ISLAMIC AND THE MORE PROBLEMS ARE THE GLOBALISM LIKE CLLINTONS BUSHES AND SOROS AND A LOT MOORE PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT AMERICA THEY WANT THIS GREAT COUNTRY TO BE DESTROY PUTIN BRLIVES THAT TRUMP IT IS A LEADER AND THAT HE LOVES AMERICA LIKE PUTIN LOVES RUSSIA
Yes Putin is a big Criminal has a lot of blood on ... (show quote)



Well said, even though not well spelled.
Putin loves his country. Barry Soteoro hates the country he "claims" to be his.
Yeah, Vladimir is ruthless. He is territorial.
And that's HIS country. He is a patriot of HIS country.
When we have some leader in charge who is actually a patriot of the USA, we may have a chance to survive.

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Sep 11, 2016 15:17:00   #
Hogback
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Since he refuses to release his taxes, we'll probably never know.....he praises the former head of the KGB and gets support from conservatives !!....times certainly have changed


Well at least he didn't sell 205 of Americas uranium to Russia. Hillary also sold weapons to ISIS! And that "Restart" thing how is that working out? Obama promised Dmitry Medvedev more flexibility after election. Russia is on the move in Ukraine and in Syria. These issues of facts have nothing to do with Trump and what he might do in the future. Nobody loves Russia or is more afraid of Russia than the Obama administration.

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Sep 11, 2016 18:56:27   #
Gener
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Since he refuses to release his taxes, we'll probably never know.....he praises the former head of the KGB and gets support from conservatives !!....times certainly have changed



It amazes me how many people post here who are completely out of touch with reality.

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Sep 11, 2016 22:06:01   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
How can you be critical of the Man who is viewed by so many as their savior?

We all know God works in mysterious ways. Who am I to doubt that this self proclaimed Messiah is not what he claims to be?

Just what will befall me if I don't vote for him, or even if his Pac is with the Devil.

Oh well I will pray for Us all to be saved.

I just hope I survive what ever happens.


As Sec. of State Hillary made it possible for Putin's Russia to purchase 20% of our Uranium sources for $500,000 speaking gig in Russia and several millions of dollars to the various Clinton supposed charities. Why are you unworried about the Clinton-Putin connection that is fact and are worried a bout a D made up association with Trump?

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