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Big Obamacare Rate Increases: Don't Reflect What People Actually Pay – Wrong!
Aug 27, 2016 05:58:46   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
08/25/2016 Big Obamacare Rate Increases Don't Reflect What People Actually Pay – Wrong!

http://healthpolicyandmarket.blogspot.com/2016/08/big-obamacare-rate-increases-dont.html

How many people in the individual health insurance market don't get a subsidy to pay for their health insurance or wouldn't be eligible for one it they did buy it?

Here is what an Obama administration spokesperson said yesterday about all of the big 2017 Obamacare rate increases:

Obamacare Subsidies Preserve Access as Premiums Climb, U.S. Says
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-24/obamacare-subsidies-preserve-access-as-premiums-climb-u-s-says

"Headline rate increases do not reflect what consumers actually pay," said Kathryn Martin, acting assistant secretary for planning and evaluation at the Department of Health and Human Services.

What she is once again referring to is that 85% of those getting subsidies could get their rate increases eliminated or blunted by the subsidies.

It is worth pointing out that the consumer only avoids the big increase if they are in, or move to, the lowest or second lowest cost Silver Plan.

Staying with a higher priced plan they might now be in will not avoid the increases.

And, once again, the administration doesn't tell us that moving to a lower price plan may require higher deductibles and co-pays and more limited provider networks.

But more importantly, why does this administration, and so many Obamacare supporters that parrot this line, continue to ignore the many millions of people who do not get a subsidy and have no choice but to take the full whack from these rate increases if they want to stay covered?

The administration did appear to accomplish this week's spin goal of getting a message out that Obamacare is doing just fine. Here are some of the headlines driven by the administration's press briefing as they appeared in Kaiser Health News today under the heading: "HHS Analysis Says Subsidies Will Help Buffet Consumers From Marketplace Turmoil:”

• The Hill: "White House: Most Obamacare Users Will Be Shielded From Premium Spikes"
• Modern Health Care: "HHS Says 2017 Obamacare Plans Will Be Affordable Despite Insurer Exits"
• Morning Consult: "HHS Report: Most Marketplace Consumers Will Have Affordable Coverage Options"
• Dallas Morning News: "HHS Department: Fear Not, Obamacare Will Remain Competitive"
How many people in the individual market do not get a subsidy––and are not shielded from these increases?

Also this week, Mark Farrah Associates, an insurance industry data aggregator and web publisher, did take a look at that question.

The Unpredictable Individual Health Insurance Market
http://www.markfarrah.com/healthcare-business-strategy/The-Unpredictable-Individual-Health-Insurance-Market.aspx

They looked at all of the individual health insurance regulatory filings in each of the states.

Here is what they found:



As of February 2016, 7.5 million people bought individual coverage outside the exchanges and therefore did not get an exchange subsidy.

They reiterated the administration's claim that 12.7 million people bought coverage in the exchanges as of last February.

In fact, by March, only 11.1 million people had completed/paid their enrollments with only 9.4 million getting a subsidy and 1.7 million not getting one.

Adding the 1.7 million not getting a subsidy on the exchange to the 7.5 million off the exchange not being subsidized as of February, there are apparently about 9.2 million people in the U.S individual health insurance market that do not get a subsidy!

Now, some of these 9.2 million could be in grandfathered plans soon to be terminated, or even in limited medical plans still on the books.

But any new policy these people would have to buy would have to be Obamacare compliant in order for them not to face the fine.

While this estimate serves to approximate what the market looks like, it is not definitive.

You would think with all of the endowment money the likes of The Commonwealth Fund or The Kaiser Family Foundation has someone would have attempted to find out how many people are out in the cold having to pay the full premium, deductibles, and rate increases for their coverage.

After all, how many times have you seen a study, poll, or report from these folks supportive of the Affordable Care Act's accomplishments––particularly the good the law has done to expand coverage for the poor?

Are they also not interested in the middle class?

And of course, this data only looks at the people who have bought a policy. While we know that only about 40% of the subsidy eligible have bought a policy, how many of those not subsidy eligible are still without any coverage?

Arguments referring to the 85% of those in the exchange getting a subsidy, in the narrowest sense, are correct.

They are also incredibly disingenuous.

But you wouldn't know that reading these headlines.

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Aug 27, 2016 07:29:49   #
old woman
 
In Communism is only one Health Care Government is the one who will Decided your Treatment Is coming America very ugly time

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Aug 27, 2016 08:24:17   #
poppabear42
 
110;
The only problem with what you are saying is that Obamacare is not the real problem. Actually, this "Do nothing, but bitch, and their sick oath, to do everything possible to make Obama fail, and to be the last black man to run your white house.
Because if they could make Obama fail, it would be next to impossible for another black man to ever have that chance again.
Obama stared when, and before the bill ever passed, that it was not a perfect bill, but with help from congress, and even some, in his own party, they could make the bill as useful as it could ever be, for the people that needed healthcare insurance.
So, for the most obvious reasons, the greedy insurance companies, repukeblicans, some greedy doctors, and even some in his own party refused to do their part to make the ACA, or Obamacare (Name chosen as a joke) by repukeblicans, and also got those same repukeblicans truly pissed off, when Obama proudly accepted their sick joke.
Let's blame the guilty a@#holes that have done everything in their power, to prevent the deserving people of this country, the right to be able to go to a doctor, buy medicine, go to the hospital when necessary, and even the chance to maybe save their loves, or the lives of their love ones.
Health insurance IS NOT a joke, it is a very serious matter for EVERYBODY, even those that can, or can not afford it.
And for it to be used as a chance for a bunch of childish, stupid a@#holes to shut down the government, or try over FIFTY times to destroy, is a true sin.
To be perfectly honest, that oath they took, the to many undeserved vacations, and them not demanding that the rich pay their tax...These selfish, childish actions against the real people of this country, is why the repukeblican party is self destructing right before our eyes, and their stupidity, greed, laziness, and weakness is why they are being taken over by only one P.O.S. punk...d.j. tramp.
Good riddance to a bunch of animals that I hope will end up needing Obamacare, and a job.

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Aug 27, 2016 10:57:12   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
How costly would health care be if we never had health insurance?
I really don't expect an answer.

poppabear42 wrote:
110;
The only problem with what you are saying is that Obamacare is not the real problem. Actually, this "Do nothing, but bitch, and their sick oath, to do everything possible to make Obama fail, and to be the last black man to run your white house.
Because if they could make Obama fail, it would be next to impossible for another black man to ever have that chance again.
Obama stared when, and before the bill ever passed, that it was not a perfect bill, but with help from congress, and even some, in his own party, they could make the bill as useful as it could ever be, for the people that needed healthcare insurance.
So, for the most obvious reasons, the greedy insurance companies, repukeblicans, some greedy doctors, and even some in his own party refused to do their part to make the ACA, or Obamacare (Name chosen as a joke) by repukeblicans, and also got those same repukeblicans truly pissed off, when Obama proudly accepted their sick joke.
Let's blame the guilty a@#holes that have done everything in their power, to prevent the deserving people of this country, the right to be able to go to a doctor, buy medicine, go to the hospital when necessary, and even the chance to maybe save their loves, or the lives of their love ones.
Health insurance IS NOT a joke, it is a very serious matter for EVERYBODY, even those that can, or can not afford it.
And for it to be used as a chance for a bunch of childish, stupid a@#holes to shut down the government, or try over FIFTY times to destroy, is a true sin.
To be perfectly honest, that oath they took, the to many undeserved vacations, and them not demanding that the rich pay their tax...These selfish, childish actions against the real people of this country, is why the repukeblican party is self destructing right before our eyes, and their stupidity, greed, laziness, and weakness is why they are being taken over by only one P.O.S. punk...d.j. tramp.
Good riddance to a bunch of animals that I hope will end up needing Obamacare, and a job.
110; br The only problem with what you are saying... (show quote)

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Aug 27, 2016 11:07:10   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Wow! Nice rant. Only one word needed to describe you, delusional.
poppabear42 wrote:
110;
The only problem with what you are saying is that Obamacare is not the real problem. Actually, this "Do nothing, but bitch, and their sick oath, to do everything possible to make Obama fail, and to be the last black man to run your white house.
Because if they could make Obama fail, it would be next to impossible for another black man to ever have that chance again.
Obama stared when, and before the bill ever passed, that it was not a perfect bill, but with help from congress, and even some, in his own party, they could make the bill as useful as it could ever be, for the people that needed healthcare insurance.
So, for the most obvious reasons, the greedy insurance companies, repukeblicans, some greedy doctors, and even some in his own party refused to do their part to make the ACA, or Obamacare (Name chosen as a joke) by repukeblicans, and also got those same repukeblicans truly pissed off, when Obama proudly accepted their sick joke.
Let's blame the guilty a@#holes that have done everything in their power, to prevent the deserving people of this country, the right to be able to go to a doctor, buy medicine, go to the hospital when necessary, and even the chance to maybe save their loves, or the lives of their love ones.
Health insurance IS NOT a joke, it is a very serious matter for EVERYBODY, even those that can, or can not afford it.
And for it to be used as a chance for a bunch of childish, stupid a@#holes to shut down the government, or try over FIFTY times to destroy, is a true sin.
To be perfectly honest, that oath they took, the to many undeserved vacations, and them not demanding that the rich pay their tax...These selfish, childish actions against the real people of this country, is why the repukeblican party is self destructing right before our eyes, and their stupidity, greed, laziness, and weakness is why they are being taken over by only one P.O.S. punk...d.j. tramp.
Good riddance to a bunch of animals that I hope will end up needing Obamacare, and a job.
110; br The only problem with what you are saying... (show quote)

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Aug 27, 2016 11:47:11   #
poppabear42
 
110;
What's the matter, can't you take the truth? Now you have lived up to being a true repukeblican!!!!

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