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Nov 16, 2013 13:21:29   #
SchoonerPete
 
There is a difference between "desire to cut entitlements" to "reforming entitlements" which the left does not want to do because of political reasons - they would lose power. They do not want the military to run everything, so I don't know where you get this? Refusing to play with anyone else????? You need to start reading some other periodicals, you're becoming paranoid, or warped in your opinion.

lpnmajor wrote:
Then how would you explain republicans desire to cut entitlement to, um, 0. Or to have the military run everything. Or repubs refusing to play with anyone else? Seems like the pot calling the kettle crazy to me. I don' think fellow psycho's are a good judge of these things. Better to let the non partisans handle it.

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Nov 16, 2013 13:47:36   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Then how would you explain republicans desire to cut entitlement to, um, 0. Or to have the military run everything. Or repubs refusing to play with anyone else? Seems like the pot calling the kettle crazy to me. I don' think fellow psycho's are a good judge of these things. Better to let the non partisans handle it.

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I want to answer, but don't quite understand what you are saying. Desire to cut entitlement to 0? Don't understand what you mean? Repubs refusing to play with anyone else? If they are refusing to follow the dems over the cliff, they have more sense than I give them credit for. If I told you to jump off a 500 ft. cliff, would you do it if we thought alike on issues? Or would you tell me to "get lost" as any sane person would do? Are the Republicans in Congress there to work for Obama OR for their constituents?

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Nov 16, 2013 17:37:53   #
iamwhiteshadow
 
They should be against the drug pushers and Psychologist who pump them full of drugs. If that list is accurate and I have my doubts then you have to read all the so called events to find all the perps were under mind control by? Republican backing doctors who pump people full of mind controlling drugs from republican backing drug companies. Then factor in all the FOX mind control that infuriated Democrats and makes republicans happy. and you get a republican made story that they can point to to make democrats look like the bad guy. Typical game for them. I'm more then sure the list is made empty of republican monsters on purpose. Hats off to the GOP way. By the way Custer was a republican and he murdered thousands of women and children...........This being when republicans were democrats in time though, today he would be a republican. Just to clear the time line up for you.

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Nov 16, 2013 17:44:12   #
larry
 
iamwhiteshadow wrote:
They should be against the drug pushers and Psychologist who pump them full of drugs. If that list is accurate and I have my doubts then you have to read all the so called events to find all the perps were under mind control by? Republican backing doctors who pump people full of mind controlling drugs from republican backing drug companies. Then factor in all the FOX mind control that infuriated Democrats and makes republicans happy. and you get a republican made story that they can point to to make democrats look like the bad guy. Typical game for them. I'm more then sure the list is made empty of republican monsters on purpose. Hats off to the GOP way. By the way Custer was a republican and he murdered thousands of women and children...........This being when republicans were democrats in time though, today he would be a republican. Just to clear the time line up for you.
They should be against the drug pushers and Psycho... (show quote)


What the heck are you talking about, how did you get off the bottle long enough to type this up. Now sit back, and slow down and get your main gripes into order so we can figure out what your discussion is all about. You have baffled me with bull crap. If that was your intent, congratulations. you have succeeded.

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Nov 16, 2013 18:42:32   #
vernon
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Then how would you explain republicans desire to cut entitlement to, um, 0. Or to have the military run everything. Or repubs refusing to play with anyone else? Seems like the pot calling the kettle crazy to me. I don' think fellow psycho's are a good judge of these things. Better to let the non partisans handle it.


any conservative wants people to be self supporting.the dems want to control with food and other life sustaining products.
obama has done away with the generals and line officers who do not do exactly what they are told.by refusing to play with
others do you mean they were wrong in not supporting an illegal law that the great majority hate.to which nonpartisans do you refer--reid(blocker of almost every repub bill submitted to "his" senate) pelosi or communist obama?probably any thinking common sense citizen of these united states could do a much better job of governing this country.the average person is not burdened with an agenda to dismantel and destroy our nation.

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Nov 16, 2013 18:47:06   #
vernon
 
vernon wrote:
any conservative wants people to be self supporting.the dems want to control with food and other life sustaining products.
obama has done away with the generals and line officers who do not do exactly what they are told.by refusing to play with
others do you mean they were wrong in not supporting an illegal law that the great majority hate.to which nonpartisans do you refer--reid(blocker of almost every repub bill submitted to "his" senate) pelosi or communist obama?probably any thinking common sense citizen of these united states could do a much better job of governing this country.the average person is not burdened with an agenda to dismantel and destroy our nation.
any conservative wants people to be self supportin... (show quote)

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Nov 16, 2013 18:47:06   #
vernon
 
vernon wrote:
any conservative wants people to be self supporting.the dems want to control with food and other life sustaining products.
obama has done away with the generals and line officers who do not do exactly what they are told.by refusing to play with
others do you mean they were wrong in not supporting an illegal law that the great majority hate.to which nonpartisans do you refer--reid(blocker of almost every repub bill submitted to "his" senate) pelosi or communist obama?probably any thinking common sense citizen of these united states could do a much better job of governing this country.the average person is not burdened with an agenda to dismantel and destroy our nation.
any conservative wants people to be self supportin... (show quote)

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Nov 16, 2013 18:51:33   #
vernon
 
Tasine wrote:
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I want to answer, but don't quite understand what you are saying. Desire to cut entitlement to 0? Don't understand what you mean? Repubs refusing to play with anyone else? If they are refusing to follow the dems over the cliff, they have more sense than I give them credit for. If I told you to jump off a 500 ft. cliff, would you do it if we thought alike on issues? Or would you tell me to "get lost" as any sane person would do? Are the Republicans in Congress there to work for Obama OR for their constituents?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ br I want to answer, but don't qui... (show quote)


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Nov 17, 2013 08:48:51   #
carolyn
 
JerryMac wrote:
You didn't know this? How would you go about grabbing guns? You get some stooge to go shoot up a bunch of people. Now where would you find someone stupid enough to do something like take another person's life?


It certainly seems this is the way things have been going , doesn't it? How many shooting that occurred while HLS was having demonstrations nearby when the shootings happened? And what about Fast and Furious when the Democrats were proven to have forced the firearms dealer to sell the guns to the Mexican drug cartels. This gun banning is nothing more than a power play for the Democrats.

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Nov 17, 2013 09:39:46   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
carolyn wrote:
This gun banning is nothing more than a power play for the Democrats.

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And the collectivists will never stop - they cannot afford to because as long as there are some guns floating around in American's hands, their coup of our government may get too sticky for them. With no guns available to honest people, they could round us up like the cattle they view us as. And that's what they will do if they have to. Surely no one can discern any compassion in any of them - all they display is displeasure, anger, and hate. And once they achieve their goals, the hate and anger will still be there.

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Nov 17, 2013 09:49:17   #
carolyn
 
Tasine wrote:
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I want to answer, but don't quite understand what you are saying. Desire to cut entitlement to 0? Don't understand what you mean? Repubs refusing to play with anyone else? If they are refusing to follow the dems over the cliff, they have more sense than I give them credit for. If I told you to jump off a 500 ft. cliff, would you do it if we thought alike on issues? Or would you tell me to "get lost" as any sane person would do? Are the Republicans in Congress there to work for Obama OR for their constituents?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ br I want to answer, but don't qui... (show quote)


Many are there to work with the Democrats, such as McConnell, Cornyn amd McCain because they are RINO'S that duped the voter into voting them for years.

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Nov 17, 2013 09:52:39   #
carolyn
 
Tasine wrote:
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And the collectivists will never stop - they cannot afford to because as long as there are some guns floating around in American's hands, their coup of our government may get too sticky for them. With no guns available to honest people, they could round us up like the cattle they view us as. And that's what they will do if they have to. Surely no one can discern any compassion in any of them - all they display is displeasure, anger, and hate. And once they achieve their goals, the hate and anger will still be there.
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This is exactly the way Hitler took over Germany. But thank God that there are enough Americans still alive that remember history that realize this. But unless our children start reading the book "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich," there will be no more people who know this left in a very few short years.

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Nov 17, 2013 10:45:47   #
Buck Loc: Valparaiso,IN
 
carolyn wrote:
In 1863, a Democrat shot and killed President Abraham Lincoln.
In 1881, A left-wing radical Democrat shot President James Garfield who later died of these gunshot wounds.
In 1963, a radical left-wing Democrat shot and killed President John F. Kennedy.
In 1975, a left-wing radical Democrat fired shots at President Gerald Ford.
In 1983, a registered Democrat shot President Ronald Reagan.
In 1984, James Hubert, a Democrat shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.
In 1986, Patrick Sherill, a Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma Post Office.
In 1990, James Pough, a Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.
In 1991, George Hennaed, a Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby's Cafeteria.
In 1995, James Simpson, a Democrat, shot and killed 5 co-workers in a Texas Laboratory.
In 1999, Larry Asbrook, a Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.
In 2001, a left-wing Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill President George Bush.
In 2003, Douglas Willams, a Democrat shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed-Martin plant.
In 2007, Seung-Hui Cho, a registered Democrat, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.
In 2010, A Democrat, Jared Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.
In 2011, A Democrat, James Holmes, shot and killed 12 people in a movie theater.
In 2012, Andrew Engeldinger, a Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.
In 2013, A Democrat, Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school.
In 2013, a Democrat shot 12 in a Navy Ship Yard.

I believe by now everyone should get the point I am trying to get across. That Democrats are against law abiding citizens having guns because Democrats can't be responsible enough to own them.
In 1863, a Democrat shot and killed President Abra... (show quote)

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Nov 17, 2013 11:30:37   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
carolyn wrote:
In 1863, a Democrat shot and killed President Abraham Lincoln.
In 1881, A left-wing radical Democrat shot President James Garfield who later died of these gunshot wounds.
In 1963, a radical left-wing Democrat shot and killed President John F. Kennedy.
In 1975, a left-wing radical Democrat fired shots at President Gerald Ford.
In 1983, a registered Democrat shot President Ronald Reagan.
In 1984, James Hubert, a Democrat shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.
In 1986, Patrick Sherill, a Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma Post Office.
In 1990, James Pough, a Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.
In 1991, George Hennaed, a Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby's Cafeteria.
In 1995, James Simpson, a Democrat, shot and killed 5 co-workers in a Texas Laboratory.
In 1999, Larry Asbrook, a Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.
In 2001, a left-wing Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill President George Bush.
In 2003, Douglas Willams, a Democrat shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed-Martin plant.
In 2007, Seung-Hui Cho, a registered Democrat, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.
In 2010, A Democrat, Jared Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.
In 2011, A Democrat, James Holmes, shot and killed 12 people in a movie theater.
In 2012, Andrew Engeldinger, a Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.
In 2013, A Democrat, Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school.
In 2013, a Democrat shot 12 in a Navy Ship Yard.

I believe by now everyone should get the point I am trying to get across. That Democrats are against law abiding citizens having guns because Democrats can't be responsible enough to own them.
In 1863, a Democrat shot and killed President Abra... (show quote)


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You forgot Lee Harvey Oswald and David Hinkley, Squeaky Fromme, there are many more.

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Nov 17, 2013 11:39:43   #
rumitoid
 
carolyn wrote:
In 1863, a Democrat shot and killed President Abraham Lincoln.
In 1881, A left-wing radical Democrat shot President James Garfield who later died of these gunshot wounds.
In 1963, a radical left-wing Democrat shot and killed President John F. Kennedy.
In 1975, a left-wing radical Democrat fired shots at President Gerald Ford.
In 1983, a registered Democrat shot President Ronald Reagan.
In 1984, James Hubert, a Democrat shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.
In 1986, Patrick Sherill, a Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma Post Office.
In 1990, James Pough, a Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.
In 1991, George Hennaed, a Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby's Cafeteria.
In 1995, James Simpson, a Democrat, shot and killed 5 co-workers in a Texas Laboratory.
In 1999, Larry Asbrook, a Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.
In 2001, a left-wing Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill President George Bush.
In 2003, Douglas Willams, a Democrat shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed-Martin plant.
In 2007, Seung-Hui Cho, a registered Democrat, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.
In 2010, A Democrat, Jared Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.
In 2011, A Democrat, James Holmes, shot and killed 12 people in a movie theater.
In 2012, Andrew Engeldinger, a Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.
In 2013, A Democrat, Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school.
In 2013, a Democrat shot 12 in a Navy Ship Yard.

I believe by now everyone should get the point I am trying to get across. That Democrats are against law abiding citizens having guns because Democrats can't be responsible enough to own them.
In 1863, a Democrat shot and killed President Abra... (show quote)


Since Virginia does not have partisan registration there is also no way to tell whether Seung-Hui Cho was a Democrat, but again because there is no partisan registration in the state we can say that the claim that he is a registered Democrat is FALSE. (Update: A more obvious point is that Cho was a resident alien, not a US citizen, so he was not eligible to vote in the US)

The allegation that James Holmes was registered Democrat was based on a Breitbart blogger Joel B. Pollack, who found voter registration records for a DIFFERENT James Holmes who was about the same age. Alex Jones’ Infowars and other right-wing websites then dutifully repeated the lie without verifying it. It was later determined that the Colorado Theater Shooter James Holmes was NOT registered to vote, as evidenced by this retraction: {Newly-released information on the suspect’s birthdate (which, as indicated in our initial report, was a slight mismatch), combined with new details Breitbart News has obtained about the suspect’s likely addresses, together suggest that the suspect may, in fact, not have been registered to vote.}. However, most of right-wing media continued to promote the lie without printing Breitbart sites retraction. The claim that James Holmes was a registered Democrat is FALSE.

The claim that Adama Lanza is a registered Democrat has been suggested based not on any evidence that he was registered as one, but on the rather dubious claim that because Connecticut has almost 2 to 1 Democratic registration over Republicans, he was probably a Democrat. (Claim: "Adam Lanza, NewtownConn murderer. Registered Democrats outnumber Republicans by about a 2-1 ratio in Connecticut. The odds are therefore that the Lanza family are (sic) Democrats.") This of course is a bogus argument to begin with, but even if we were to make the claim that a mass shooter’s political affiliation must be the same as the majority of the people in his area, we can debunk this foolish idea by taking this shoddy analysis down to the local level. Yes, Connecticut voted for Barack Obama, BUT the city of Newtown voted for Mitt Romney. If we look at the results we find that Mitt Romney defeated Barack Obama in Newtown by 7451-6784 votes or 51.7 percent to 47 percent. Republican Senate candidate and Tea Party favorite Linda McMahon carried the city over Democrat Chris Murphy by an even larger margin. Add in the other information we have that Lanza’s mother was a “doomsday prepper” and a home schooler in a Republican-leaning city and we can pretty well dispense with the erroneous assumption that Lanza must have been a Democrat (UPDATE: According to at least one media source, Nancy Lanza was a registered Republican. The source does not provide a link, but the author of this article is seeking further confirmation). We can therefore claim that with no evidence to support the claim, the assertion that Lanza was a Democrat is not demonstrated and that in the absence of any evidence it is likely FALSE.

Klebold and Harris of course were not old enough to vote and they had no apparent political affiliation. Allegations that they came from families of Democrats or liberal progressives appear to have no sources to substantiate those claims. What little ideology the boys demonstrated owed mostly to an admiration for Timothy McVeigh not Ted Kennedy. Harris’ father was a retired Air Force pilot and Eric Harris wanted to join the Marine Corps. The boys lived in Littleton, Colorado a relatively conservative and affluent suburb of Denver. The claim that their parents were Democrats is UNSUBSTANTIATED. Any suggestion that the two boys were Democrats is demonstrably FALSE.

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