timmh67 Loc: USA...West Coast

@comcash1... Thats the best ass chewing I have ever heard or read in a political forum site blogging.. Nice Job.. :thumbup: :thumbup:

Whatamess Loc: SC

I read yesterday that Rand Paul is trying to have the Federal reserve audited,it will be a first, maybe he can get it done.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

It's fine to read this sort of thing--it's fine to state one's interpretation...but it's quite another thing to state a far-fetched interpretation as if fact, which your first post did. State the interpretation as interpretation and then reference facts and sources that relate to the interpretation.

I read the two reports on the Chinese media editorial on "de-Americanizing" the world and that could be interpreted as threatening the dollar as world currency. However, the main point of that editorial was that our political impass over budget and debt ceiling and govt. shutdown and failure to control our big banks' speculations affecting world economy were reasons to start thinking about deAmericanizing the world economy. Not exactly a fit to your interpretation.

Regarding the "Unrestricted Warfare" or URW (I don't like code words) source references, I wasn't able to sort through all the sixty or seventy or hundreds of possible scenarios explored in the symposium, but I imagine the scenario you stated was among them. Again, a scenario is only a playing out of possibility not fact. To state this particular scenario as fact is outlandish. To state it as likely possibility would be gross exaggeration. To state it as a possibility and cite the Chinese media opinion piece as related and URW strategies as means that could be used would be OK but should be accompanied by strong cautions as only possibility since otherwise the typical rightwingnuts in this forum will make a big deal of it as "proven fact" backed up by "cited sources." Even if you caution only possibility, they are likely to turn around and present it as fact and embellish it as an Obama conspiracy like the lead post on this site. ha.

Regarding your URW source references, unless they can be accessed & read in reasonable time they are misleading. Again our wingnut people won't realize the source is theoretical scenarios and assume fact proof of Chinese intention. Thus you would need to state the URW is theoretical scenario--otherwise you would be misleading them...and, believe me, they are easily misled. ha.

This advice assumes that you want to post honest opinion. On the other hand, it's also possible you are like many wingnut posters on this site so intent on making points that they don't know the difference between opinion and interpretation and fact.

By the way, our drone war against Al-Quida is a form of "unrestricted warfare." It is a war, you know. They attacked first.

One of the other points in the Chinese deAmericanizing editorial was statement of frustration over our claim to right to guide the world toward freedom and democracy and our unilateral geopolitical actions "interfering in the internal affairs of other nations." If you recall that was also Putin's complaint in the opinion piece he sent to one of our major newspapers (New York Times?), that our ideas of "American Exceptionalism" were arrogant and wrong. Obama made a public statement affirming American Exceptionalism and our role as defender of world democracy and action in the interest of civilization's future. Many think as China & Russia do--kind of a "nations' rights" position regarding the United Nations, equivalent to extreme states' rights viewpoint before the Civil War. We set up the League of Nations and the United Nations on the model of our federal union, the United States, so we can understand China & Russia as somewhat the equivalent of the plantation faction in our history...they represent the old order of dictatorial natinal governments. Most of the world does see our Exceptionalism as leader of the free world and I suspect China and Russia also see it, just that they think we carry it too far. ha. Ironically there are those on the fringes of left and right who also think that way. It's the middle of the road politicians who still insist we act. You perhaps recall Sen. McCain's outbursts against the "isolationist" wing of the GOP. Interestingly Obama and Biden leaned to the isolationist wing of the Dems when they were in the Senate but in executive office have changed their viewpoint to cautious but determined geopolitical action--over-cautious sometimes, in my opinion.

Our relationship to R & C and theirs to us is complicated, but in the end Russia especially but also China have a stake in action against Middle East extremism and terrorism and in their connections to their immediate neighbors--Russia with Western Europe & China with Japan and South Korea and India...all our friends and allies. For their own future they will have to come our way. Annoying they are holding back. They should be backing us up in the Middle East for their own good as well as for the safety of civilization's future. They know we are the key to the future of civilization.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

Hello Mr. Comcash. Yes, I am very impatient with paranoid conspiracy posts by rightwingnuts. Actually when I read your original post that China owned 275 trillion of our treasury bonds and signed IOUs and that Obama had signed right of Chinese troops to enter the U.S. and take lands & enslave the population and then read your location was the UK (United Kingdom--Great Britain), I thought you were a British citizen posting ridiculous exaggerated statements to ridicule American rightwingnuts posting crazy rumors that "Obama might be giving USA soil to China." I couldn't think of any other reason for the 275 trillion number and outlandish enslavement statement. I frankly could not imagine even the wingnuts would post such nonsense, so it had to be someone making fun of them by exaggerating their nonsense, and the UK location listed under your name suggested a Brit with a sense of humor about American right extremists.

I'm sorry, but there's no other way to put it--275 trillion and signed away land to be taken & the population enslaved is simply out of touch with reality. Do you have anyone who can talk frankly with you? If so, show them your posted comments on this political forum and ask them what they think.

rumitoid

There are five states we can give them and save some money for the taxpayer: LA, WV, NM, AK, and MS. There are another five states seceded to China, all red, that may help get our national budget balanced. Partnership with China could be the best thing that ever happened to us by the ruling Bottom Line.

Winter Solstice Loc: Salt Lake City

The Federal Reserve is not even an agency. It is a group of Bankers that we've given the power to make money at will. They use a mechanism where they create money at 10 times the amount of their gold reserve. This is Fractional Reserve Banking.
The Federal Reserve controls the Country, not Congress or the President.

Winter Solstice Loc: Salt Lake City

The idea of giving our land to China is just about the most egregious thing that Obama can do. First he increased the National Debt by at least $7 trillion and now he'll trade that debt for land? What else can he possibly do to ruin the country that belongs to We the People?

Richard94611

Those who think that sometime soon China is going to do something terrible to the United States via whatever leverages it has need to reflect that China is so heavily invested in the United States that they would be harming themselves terribly.

Loki Loc: Georgia

His father, TX Congressman Ron Paul, has been trying for years. For some strange reason it keeps getting blocked. I think our government is very afraid of what we will find out when and if the Fed is audited.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

You actually believe these idiots? No one is going to trade land for debt. You're living in fantasy land if you believe these rightwingnut conspiracy theories.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

Rep. Ron Paul hasn't been able to get a Congressional committee to act on the matter. His colleagues consider him wacko...the original wingnut. What's up with Texas? Almost as extreme in politics as us Wisconsinites. ha.

Richard94611

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Loki Loc: Georgia

The Federal Reserve is one hundred years old this year. For one hundred years it has remained safe from any sort of oversight. Every time an audit is mentioned, it is squashed. The Fed is a conglomeration of international bankers that controls this country's money supply with no oversight from Congress. It is a law, and practically a sovereign nation unto itself. Perhaps you can explain to the "right wing nuts" why they should not be suspicious of an entity that wields this much power for this long and is answerable to absolutely no one?

Whatamess Loc: SC

No gold to back up our dollar...Ft.Knox is empty?

Richard94611

Goldfinger got it. It is a fiction that he failed.