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Political Suicide
Jul 31, 2016 00:19:55 #
USMC 70 wrote:
What we really need is to succeed from the federal government... Let the states take control of their own affairs. It is easier to control them This is how we get enough representation, which is why the Federal Government don't like representation they only get paid approx. $30.000 a yr. if we don't like them we get rid of them and find some else. Keep it simple. The only reason we need to pay federal taxes is for the Defense department.
There are several states discussing secession now. Texas was loud and Obama said the Texas national guard would stop it. Obama was quickly informed that the Texas national guard pledged its loyalty to Texas, not the Federal governnent. Obama shut up declining to push it. Now several other states are talking the same.
Jul 31, 2016 00:34:14 #
SalMarDib
Loc: Fly over country
[quote=USMC 70]What we really need is to succeed
Interesting answer. In line with what the founders of our federal government had intended all along. Limiting the federal government and putting the day to day governing of the people in government closer to the people, either state or local. Amazing how you arrived at that. It tells me that maybe if we hadn't messed with what Jefferson and Madison wrote down in the first place, we wouldn't need this discussion. OK, sure that is a bit of an oversimplification on my part but you get the idea.
Interesting answer. In line with what the founders of our federal government had intended all along. Limiting the federal government and putting the day to day governing of the people in government closer to the people, either state or local. Amazing how you arrived at that. It tells me that maybe if we hadn't messed with what Jefferson and Madison wrote down in the first place, we wouldn't need this discussion. OK, sure that is a bit of an oversimplification on my part but you get the idea.
Jul 31, 2016 04:29:34 #
[quote=SalMarDib]
Both Jefferson and Madison believed in the right of secession. Madison, however, held more of a belief that secession was unecessary, since a state could, he believed, nullify a Federal Law it thought unconstitutional. Both Jefferson and Madison held that if the Supreme Court had the final say on constitutionality, then it became superior to the other branches of government, destroying the concept of checks and balances. Jefferson said something to the effect of it making the SCOTUS rulers of the country.
USMC 70 wrote:
What we really need is to succeed br br Interes... (show quote)
Both Jefferson and Madison believed in the right of secession. Madison, however, held more of a belief that secession was unecessary, since a state could, he believed, nullify a Federal Law it thought unconstitutional. Both Jefferson and Madison held that if the Supreme Court had the final say on constitutionality, then it became superior to the other branches of government, destroying the concept of checks and balances. Jefferson said something to the effect of it making the SCOTUS rulers of the country.
Jul 31, 2016 08:15:08 #
QuestGirl
Loc: Jayhawk Country
cephusbob wrote:
A succession of Republican Presidents wouldn't have us $20 billion in debt or men in the ladies restrooms and locker rooms.
That's 20 Trillion, not billion.
Jul 31, 2016 08:21:25 #
LG
Loc: TENNESSEE
Noraa wrote:
I wish this was true but most American's have been so liberalized there is no fight left in them. The government is full of liberals, the media is almost all liberals, the schools and colleges are all liberal and" politically correct" rules nowadays. The government controls them with their handouts. You can't fire anybody, most freedoms have been taken and gun control is around the corner. If and probably when Hillary wins you can kiss hard work and entrepreneur ship goodbye.
NORAA
I believe you have just laid out all the symptoms to way there are so many dumb people these days, I hear people ask all the time, are there really that many stupid people. You're right about HILLARY & LIBERAL DEMOCRATS next will be trying to stop/ban "hard work and entrepreneur ship", because that's what they do with stuff they know nothing about, but see others that are very good and successful doing it
Jul 31, 2016 08:38:05 #
One of my favorite quotes from Mr.Thomas Jefferson was To big of a government are not good for the people.[quote=SalMarDib][quote=USMC 70]What we really need is to succeed
Interesting answer. In line with what the founders of our federal government had intended all along. Limiting the federal government and putting the day to day governing of the people in government closer to the people, either state or local. Amazing how you arrived at that. It tells me that maybe if we hadn't messed with what Jefferson and Madison wrote down in the first place, we wouldn't need this discussion. OK, sure that is a bit of an oversimplification on my part but you get the idea.[/quo
Interesting answer. In line with what the founders of our federal government had intended all along. Limiting the federal government and putting the day to day governing of the people in government closer to the people, either state or local. Amazing how you arrived at that. It tells me that maybe if we hadn't messed with what Jefferson and Madison wrote down in the first place, we wouldn't need this discussion. OK, sure that is a bit of an oversimplification on my part but you get the idea.[/quo
Jul 31, 2016 08:45:31 #
cesspool jones
Loc: atlanta
SalMarDib wrote:
I didn't say anything about advancing the poor or... (show quote)
you are talking to birdturd. he would suck Obama’s thingy if he could. a complete asshole
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Jul 31, 2016 09:06:34 #
SalMarDib wrote:
Richard Nixon committed political suicide. He bug... (show quote)
Good point. Great post.
Jul 31, 2016 09:12:57 #
cesspool jones wrote:
you are talking to birdturd. he would suck Obama’s thingy if he could. a complete asshole
Kind of crude, but right to the point. It's amazing how some of the AA pieces of shit can't accept the fact that Obama is the worst thing that ever happened to this country. And Hillary will be 5 times worse. Only Moron in history can commit so many crimes and get off. Martha Stewart did nothing in comparison, Dinesh D'Souza same thing. Did nothing. Petreaus had his entire life ruined and really did nothing compared to the LIAR/FELON. it all boils down to who you are in bed with. And Dir. Comey had connections to the Clintons way back. Therefore, she got off. It's important that the American people make her pay at the polls!
Jul 31, 2016 12:40:03 #
J Anthony
Loc: Connecticut
cephusbob wrote:
A succession of Republican Presidents wouldn't have us $20 billion in debt or men in the ladies restrooms and locker rooms.
Republicans are just as responsible for the debt and the perpetuation of a corrupt monetary-system as the Democrats.
Jul 31, 2016 12:42:50 #
J Anthony
Loc: Connecticut
SalMarDib wrote:
I didn't say anything about advancing the poor or... (show quote)
Its probably a combination of both; elites take advantage of the fact that much of the citizenry are either too complacent or too scared to push for real change.
Jul 31, 2016 13:26:26 #
J Anthony wrote:
Its probably a combination of both; elites take advantage of the fact that much of the citizenry are either too complacent or too scared to push for real change.
Add too STUPID to comprehend what is going on
Jul 31, 2016 14:41:26 #
No body died in the Watergate scandal. 3 died in Benghazi. Dozens have been killed for not supporting the Clintons. How many have to die for you to be happy?
Jul 31, 2016 15:10:19 #
J Anthony wrote:
Republicans are just as responsible for the debt and the perpetuation of a corrupt monetary-system as the Democrats.
I don't think so.
Until relatively recently Obama had everything his way with both houses in democratic control yet he has run up more debt that all other presidents in our history combined. The ACA alone has cost enormously and even after he illegally tried to shore.it.up with even more money not allowed for that purpose, the ACA is still failing and will go under soon because the remaining insurers can't keep.up losing money....and millions again are being left uninsured. All it did was make rich richer.
When the republicans manage to block spending in congress, Obama uses EO to end run and throw away more money.
What surprises me is that you are ok with that. You must think it doesn't matter how much he spends because it doesn't come from your pocket. If so, you are amazingly short sighted because this spending will either stop when republicans gain the WH or when we have run out of.options...which ever comes first. In the mean time this debt will be borne by the next several generationa and if we don't stop over spending eventually this nation will bankrupt and none of the federally backed services will survive. Then we will be in deep deep trouble. That is the fallacy of big government. When it collapses under its own enormity those fed backed services stop and every one suffers horribly. From roads to hospitals, to medical services, housing, food, energy, etc. Gone. Then what?
Bottom line is that.you are enormously wrong about spending by the right and for you to even attempt to sell that concept is foolish.
Jul 31, 2016 15:11:38 #
maureenthannon wrote:
No body died in the Watergate scandal. 3 died in Benghazi. Dozens have been killed for not supporting the Clintons. How many have to die for you to be happy?
4 died in Benghazi.
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