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Jul 22, 2016 09:28:17   #
Kevyn
 
Here is a link to a careful fact checking of Trumps acceptance speech, take a couple of minutes to read the article and see how it spells out how the vast majority of his manifesto was nothing but a bald faced lie. And when you respond, respond defending Trumps lies and half truths instead of with the usual childish complaints about President Obama or soon to be President Clinton, or the asinine attacks on the press. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/07/22/fact-checking-donald-trumps-acceptance-speech-at-the-2016-rnc/?wpisrc=nl_az_most

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Jul 22, 2016 11:13:05   #
crackerjack
 
[quote=Kevyn]Here is a link to a careful fact checking of Trumps acceptance speech, take a couple of minutes to read the article and see how it spells out how the vast majority of his manifesto was nothing but a bald faced lie. And when you respond, respond defending Trumps lies and half truths instead of with the usual childish complaints about President Obama or soon to be President Clinton, or the asinine attacks on the press. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/07/22/fact-checking-donald-trumps-acceptance-speech-at-the-2016-rnc/?wpisrc=nl_az_most[/quote

There will be several volumnes when they fact check Hillary's lies.

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Jul 22, 2016 11:23:56   #
Kevyn
 
[quote=crackerjack][quote=Kevyn]Here is a link to a careful fact checking of Trumps acceptance speech, take a couple of minutes to read the article and see how it spells out how the vast majority of his manifesto was nothing but a bald faced lie. And when you respond, respond defending Trumps lies and half truths instead of with the usual childish complaints about President Obama or soon to be President Clinton, or the asinine attacks on the press. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/07/22/fact-checking-donald-trumps-acceptance-speech-at-the-2016-rnc/?wpisrc=nl_az_most[/quote

There will be several volumnes when they fact check Hillary's lies.[/quote]




Just what I thought and specifically asked you not to do. Trump is a crook and a liar and his supporters for what ever reason don't give a damn, whenever they are presented this undeniable fact rather than defend him they deflect and point fingers. Fact Check found twenty one absolute lies in his rambling speech, shouldn't he be held accountable? Trump promises he is the only man to make the nation great again. Why would anyone take his word on this when damn near everything he says is a lie?

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Jul 22, 2016 11:47:47   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
[quote=crackerjack][quote=Kevyn]Here is a link to a careful fact checking of Trumps acceptance speech, take a couple of minutes to read the article and see how it spells out how the vast majority of his manifesto was nothing but a bald faced lie. And when you respond, respond defending Trumps lies and half truths instead of with the usual childish complaints about President Obama or soon to be President Clinton, or the asinine attacks on the press. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/07/22/fact-checking-donald-trumps-acceptance-speech-at-the-2016-rnc/?wpisrc=nl_az_most[/quote

There will be several volumnes when they fact check Hillary's lies.[/quote]

crackerjack-Trump referred to specific cities while the left wing Washington Post gave an overview of the country. They say that unemployment is at 5% when the real number is 9%. They say wages are rising. Where ? People have not had raises in 10 years. What Kevyn views as facts are, to sane people, mere fantasy. Trump gave a great speech and is the only one who can save America from impending disaster. Hillary is like an accident waiting to happen. She has nothing to offer but more misery with no character, no morals, no sense of responsibility, no achievements, dishonest, untrustworthy, and does not give a tinkers damn about this country. She despises both the Secret Service and the Military and National Security, like the truth, is alien to her. However, she fits the democrat party nicely with their warped agenda. Kevyn is merely too immature to recognize that Hillary is bad news for both America and the human race., Good Luck America !!!

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Jul 22, 2016 13:00:55   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Kevyn wrote:
Here is a link to a careful fact checking of Trumps acceptance speech, take a couple of minutes to read the article and see how it spells out how the vast majority of his manifesto was nothing but a bald faced lie. And when you respond, respond defending Trumps lies and half truths instead of with the usual childish complaints about President Obama or soon to be President Clinton, or the asinine attacks on the press.
WaPo, the fact checker? If you're looking for a reasonable response, you're going to have to come up with a "fact checker" that is not a leftist propaganda rag.

The democrat party owns the darkness, dude, the dems and the sychopant media are the ones that 24/7 paint the darkest of pictures about America--"America is immoral," "America is racist", "America is hateful", "America is destroying the planet", "America is the world's villain, the No 1 bad guy," "America's best days are long gone"--Yep, every freaking day, the liberals unload their hate America, doom and gloom crap on our country and its people.

We can forgive you, Kev, we understand how potent that leftist dark koolaid is. It is poison, man, we see it's victims everywhere, all of them standing in line for the government to give them the antidote.

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Jul 22, 2016 14:04:55   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Kevyn wrote:
Just what I thought and specifically asked you not to do. Trump is a crook and a liar and his supporters for what ever reason don't give a damn, whenever they are presented this undeniable fact rather than defend him they deflect and point fingers. Fact Check found twenty one absolute lies in his rambling speech, shouldn't he be held accountable? Trump promises he is the only man to make the nation great again. Why would anyone take his word on this when damn near everything he says is a lie?



Several things that are blatant falsehoods about your one source jumped out at me. Here is one, in particular:

"The example Trump usually uses is Gen. David H. Petraeus. Petraeus knowingly leaked classified information in his personal notebooks for release to the public through his biographer, then lied to the FBI when he got caught. FBI Director James B. Comey said the Petraeus case “illustrates perfectly” the type of case the Department of Justice would be willing to prosecute: a combination of obstruction of justice, intentional misconduct and vast quantities of classified information. Those elements weren’t there in Clinton’s case."

This is a blatant, outrageous lie. Hillary Clinton knew that she was mishandling classified material. She signed a statement that she had been briefed on the subject, yet she allowed more than 100 classified documents on her private server, then tried to destroy them. What Comey actually said was that any "reasonable person" in Clinton's position should have known that the material was classified and was being mishandled, and that she was extremely careless in her handling of these materials. He then re-defined 18 USC 793 to include a requirement for "intent to cause harm to the US." There IS NO SUCH THING. The statute states that the penalty for mishandling classified material in punishable by fines, imprisonment or both, and it doesn't make one damn bit of difference whether or not you "meant to." The final decision on whether or not to prosecute rested with long time Clinton crony Loretta Lynch, who is firmly in both Obama and Clinton's pocket.

Hillary Clinton violated 18 USC 793 more than 100 times. She KNEW she violated this statute, each time a felony, and then lied about it under oath to Congress. Of course, when your name is Clinton, perjury is as natural as breathing.

To say that she was not found guilty of wrongdoing is an insult. She was found guilty, pronounced guilty, and then given a pass because she "didn't mean any harm." What horseshit. Do you want a president so stupid and incompetent they cannot even lie convincingly?

As far as your "Fact Check" goes, I found several blatant lies in their "fact check," regarding crime rates, illegal aliens and unemployment. They accuse Trump of cherry picking facts while they merrily do the exact same thing.

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Jul 22, 2016 14:09:48   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Kevyn wrote:
Here is a link to a careful fact checking of Trumps acceptance speech, take a couple of minutes to read the article and see how it spells out how the vast majority of his manifesto was nothing but a bald faced lie. And when you respond, respond defending Trumps lies and half truths instead of with the usual childish complaints about President Obama or soon to be President Clinton, or the asinine attacks on the press. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/07/22/fact-checking-donald-trumps-acceptance-speech-at-the-2016-rnc/?wpisrc=nl_az_most
Here is a link to a careful fact checking of Trump... (show quote)

How about reading this article about your "fact checkers" Kevie...
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2016/07/19/bozell-graham-column-fact-checkers-vs-benghazi-mom

These people aren’t “fact checking” in any way. They’re masquerading in “fact checker” costumes to engage in shameless speculation, blather, and spin toward the Democrats.

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Jul 22, 2016 14:30:35   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
WaPo, the fact checker? If you're looking for a reasonable response, you're going to have to come up with a "fact checker" that is not a leftist propaganda rag.

The democrat party owns the darkness, dude, the dems and the sychopant media are the ones that 24/7 paint the darkest of pictures about America--"America is immoral," "America is racist", "America is hateful", "America is destroying the planet", "America is the world's villain, the No 1 bad guy," "America's best days are long gone"--Yep, every freaking day, the liberals unload their hate America, doom and gloom crap on our country and its people.

We can forgive you, Kev, we understand how potent that leftist dark koolaid is. It is poison, man, we see it's victims everywhere, all of them standing in line for the government to give them the antidote.
WaPo, the fact checker? If you're looking for a re... (show quote)



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Jul 22, 2016 20:36:11   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Loki wrote:
Several things that are blatant falsehoods about your one source jumped out at me. Here is one, in particular:

"The example Trump usually uses is Gen. David H. Petraeus. Petraeus knowingly leaked classified information in his personal notebooks for release to the public through his biographer, then lied to the FBI when he got caught. FBI Director James B. Comey said the Petraeus case “illustrates perfectly” the type of case the Department of Justice would be willing to prosecute: a combination of obstruction of justice, intentional misconduct and vast quantities of classified information. Those elements weren’t there in Clinton’s case."

This is a blatant, outrageous lie. Hillary Clinton knew that she was mishandling classified material. She signed a statement that she had been briefed on the subject, yet she allowed more than 100 classified documents on her private server, then tried to destroy them. What Comey actually said was that any "reasonable person" in Clinton's position should have known that the material was classified and was being mishandled, and that she was extremely careless in her handling of these materials. He then re-defined 18 USC 793 to include a requirement for "intent to cause harm to the US." There IS NO SUCH THING. The statute states that the penalty for mishandling classified material in punishable by fines, imprisonment or both, and it doesn't make one damn bit of difference whether or not you "meant to." The final decision on whether or not to prosecute rested with long time Clinton crony Loretta Lynch, who is firmly in both Obama and Clinton's pocket.

Hillary Clinton violated 18 USC 793 more than 100 times. She KNEW she violated this statute, each time a felony, and then lied about it under oath to Congress. Of course, when your name is Clinton, perjury is as natural as breathing.

To say that she was not found guilty of wrongdoing is an insult. She was found guilty, pronounced guilty, and then given a pass because she "didn't mean any harm." What horseshit. Do you want a president so stupid and incompetent they cannot even lie convincingly?

As far as your "Fact Check" goes, I found several blatant lies in their "fact check," regarding crime rates, illegal aliens and unemployment. They accuse Trump of cherry picking facts while they merrily do the exact same thing.
Several things that are blatant falsehoods about y... (show quote)




Loki,

The word "willfully" is the indicator. It was not possible to prove Hillary knew what she was doing... LOL.... yes but that is the wording of the law.. Lot of verbiage in that law.. One little paragraph which seems to be the part that was examined so closely..


d) Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or

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Jul 22, 2016 22:25:38   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
permafrost wrote:
Loki,

The word "willfully" is the indicator. It was not possible to prove Hillary knew what she was doing... LOL.... yes but that is the wording of the law.. Lot of verbiage in that law.. One little paragraph which seems to be the part that was examined so closely..


d) Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or
Loki, br br The word "willfully" is the... (show quote)


There were over a hundred classified documents. Several were clearly marked classified. Hillary signed a waiver saying that she had been briefed and understood the nature of classified material. Even Comey said that any reasonable person in her position could not help but realize the documents were classified. She knew. That is why she tried to destroy so much of the evidence. That is why she lied under oath repeatedly. I suppose if you are a Clinton, perjury is more of a way of life than a crime.

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Jul 23, 2016 09:28:19   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
Kevyn
Let me start with this, I am not a Trump supporter and will not be voting for him. I will not be voting for HRC either! I have no skin in the game between these two clowns.
Factcheck.org and other so called "Truth Sites" are biased, politically motivated propaganda Web sites. Using the Post and FactCheck as your ONLY source of credibility is not helping your debate.

My question to you is this, who is "Fact Checking" the Fact Checkers? You are not critically thinking for yourself. Have you ever asked yourself, who is funding and paying the bills for Factcheck.org ? Fact checking websites are Orwellian tools meant to end the conversation as FACT. In the book 1984, Orwell wrote about the "Ministry of Truth". It was this Ministry that controlled the lies and disinformation given to the sheep on a daily basis. Think how POWERFUL these bias sites can be! The progressive left always trying to end the conversation with sites like these and their so called “Settled Science”.

So, let’s pull the curtain back and see what political players are paying the bills for Factcheck? Your answer, The Annenberg foundation is the majority monetary source backing this site. Who is Annenberg? This foundation was started by a conservative named Walter Annenberg. After Annenberg’s death, his foundation was taken over by his family in Chicago of all places and they directed the money and the power to the far progressive left. Who are some of the known associates and management decision makers of this this foundation? Well, we know Bill Ayers was a founder of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge which was a Chicago public school reform project. We also know, Mr. Ayers did have major involvement with President Obama. We also know that BOTH Ayers and Mr. Obama sat on the board of the CAC Governance committee. Even though Mr. Obama tried to distance himself (lied) about his political involvement with Mr. Ayers and his socialist, anti-American views, we all know differently.

Nothing is what it seems! Either you are a part of the propaganda to divide, distract and deflect blame onto your political enemies OR you have allowed your mind to be absorbed into their collective. TRUTH MATTERS !

Have you ever considered, “They” are all in on it together? While we argue amongst ourselves, the biggest bank robbery in the history of mankind is going down. You really need to look at everything differently. Follow the MONEY!








Kevyn wrote:
Here is a link to a careful fact checking of Trumps acceptance speech, take a couple of minutes to read the article and see how it spells out how the vast majority of his manifesto was nothing but a bald faced lie. And when you respond, respond defending Trumps lies and half truths instead of with the usual childish complaints about President Obama or soon to be President Clinton, or the asinine attacks on the press. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/07/22/fact-checking-donald-trumps-acceptance-speech-at-the-2016-rnc/?wpisrc=nl_az_most
Here is a link to a careful fact checking of Trump... (show quote)

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Jul 23, 2016 09:43:11   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
Well said Blade Runner

Blade_Runner wrote:
WaPo, the fact checker? If you're looking for a reasonable response, you're going to have to come up with a "fact checker" that is not a leftist propaganda rag.

The democrat party owns the darkness, dude, the dems and the sychopant media are the ones that 24/7 paint the darkest of pictures about America--"America is immoral," "America is racist", "America is hateful", "America is destroying the planet", "America is the world's villain, the No 1 bad guy," "America's best days are long gone"--Yep, every freaking day, the liberals unload their hate America, doom and gloom crap on our country and its people.

We can forgive you, Kev, we understand how potent that leftist dark koolaid is. It is poison, man, we see it's victims everywhere, all of them standing in line for the government to give them the antidote.
WaPo, the fact checker? If you're looking for a re... (show quote)

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Jul 23, 2016 09:56:32   #
vernon
 
Kevyn wrote:
Here is a link to a careful fact checking of Trumps acceptance speech, take a couple of minutes to read the article and see how it spells out how the vast majority of his manifesto was nothing but a bald faced lie. And when you respond, respond defending Trumps lies and half truths instead of with the usual childish complaints about President Obama or soon to be President Clinton, or the asinine attacks on the press. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/07/22/fact-checking-donald-trumps-acceptance-speech-at-the-2016-rnc/?wpisrc=nl_az_most
Here is a link to a careful fact checking of Trump... (show quote)



Lamo the owner of the post is a left wing hater of trump and the paper has been caught is several lies.Of course you would come up with some thing from a lying left wing paper.

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Jul 23, 2016 10:46:20   #
plainlogic
 
Right out of Saul Alynski's " rules for radicals. It wouldn't make any difference what facts were brought up, you would attack from the flank. People need to get acquainted with Saul.

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Kevyn wrote:
Just what I thought and specifically asked you not to do. Trump is a crook and a liar and his supporters for what ever reason don't give a damn, whenever they are presented this undeniable fact rather than defend him they deflect and point fingers. Fact Check found twenty one absolute lies in his rambling speech, shouldn't he be held accountable? Trump promises he is the only man to make the nation great again. Why would anyone take his word on this when damn near everything he says is a lie?

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Jul 23, 2016 12:54:26   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Trump? As opposed to obama whose entire past is a lie but supported by the Media and Congress and the Supreme Court. And now Hilliar is riding on that same support system. She's the darling of the FBI, DOJ and State Department, and sold her own possible presidency to obama for her freedom from prosecution for crimes anyone else would be sent to jail, or shot for treason.
We don't need no steenking facts. We have Trump.

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