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Jul 7, 2016 12:03:49   #
Singularity
 
PATHEOS
Why Atheists Like Me Keep Talking About God
December 24, 2015536 Comments
by: Neil Carter
Earlier this week, a member of a relatively liberal Christian Facebook group to which I belong asked why the atheists in the group feel the need to insert themselves into discussions about religion when they aren’t believers themselves. If we don’t believe in God, why do we talk about him so much?

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John Eckhart
13 days ago
Why do atheists feel the need to “evangelize”? Because many of us devoutly believe that knowledge should be evidenced-based, and that it is dangerous to do otherwise. This applies not only to religious claims, but to politics, science and every other aspect of life. Those of us who hold to that view are
terrified by the fact that, in the 21st Century, a large swath of humanity
makes decisions based upon divine voices in their heads or their particular
interpretations of ancient fables written by primitive people who would have
thought that a kitchen match was a miracle. These are the voices and fables that have told people to fly planes into buildings, to invade Iraq, to marginalize and discriminate against women, to legitimize slavery (as was done in the antebellum American South), to conceal evidence of child-rape and protect the rapists "for the good of the church," to pray over their dying children rather than seeking medical help, to murder abortion doctors, to refuse blood transfusions , to play with (and die from) poisonous snakes, to impoverish themselves by contributing to religious con-men (the estimated loss to religious fraud for 2015 is $50 billion dollars), to suppress the progress of science, and to block the dissemination of knowledge in our schools. If you’re an orthodox jew it might lead you to harass women on the street who don’t comply with your dress code or to refuse to sit next to women on airplanes; if you’re an American christian your religion might lead you to hate gays and even picket the funerals of dead soldiers to publicize that hatred; if you’re an African christian it might lead you to kill “witches”; if you’re a muslim it might lead you to join ISIS and participate in its campaign of ruthless murders, or to mutilate women’s genitals. I think those are damn good reasons to evangelize against religion and in favor of atheism.

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Jul 7, 2016 12:07:01   #
Singularity
 
Singularity wrote:
PATHEOS
Why Atheists Like Me Keep Talking About God
December 24, 2015536 Comments
by: Neil Carter
Earlier this week, a member of a relatively liberal Christian Facebook group to which I belong asked why the atheists in the group feel the need to insert themselves into discussions about religion when they aren’t believers themselves. If we don’t believe in God, why do we talk about him so much?

Avatar
John Eckhart
13 days ago
Why do atheists feel the need to “evangelize”? Because many of us devoutly believe that knowledge should be evidenced-based, and that it is dangerous to do otherwise. This applies not only to religious claims, but to politics, science and every other aspect of life. Those of us who hold to that view are
terrified by the fact that, in the 21st Century, a large swath of humanity
makes decisions based upon divine voices in their heads or their particular
interpretations of ancient fables written by primitive people who would have
thought that a kitchen match was a miracle. These are the voices and fables that have told people to fly planes into buildings, to invade Iraq, to marginalize and discriminate against women, to legitimize slavery (as was done in the antebellum American South), to conceal evidence of child-rape and protect the rapists "for the good of the church," to pray over their dying children rather than seeking medical help, to murder abortion doctors, to refuse blood transfusions , to play with (and die from) poisonous snakes, to impoverish themselves by contributing to religious con-men (the estimated loss to religious fraud for 2015 is $50 billion dollars), to suppress the progress of science, and to block the dissemination of knowledge in our schools. If you’re an orthodox jew it might lead you to harass women on the street who don’t comply with your dress code or to refuse to sit next to women on airplanes; if you’re an American christian your religion might lead you to hate gays and even picket the funerals of dead soldiers to publicize that hatred; if you’re an African christian it might lead you to kill “witches”; if you’re a muslim it might lead you to join ISIS and participate in its campaign of ruthless murders, or to mutilate women’s genitals. I think those are damn good reasons to evangelize against religion and in favor of atheism.
PATHEOS br Why Atheists Like Me Keep Talking About... (show quote)


Since I've been asked this or had a non believing co-contributor to a mutual thread so queried fourteen times this past week.

Comments?

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Jul 7, 2016 12:24:44   #
Singularity
 
Also, this.

If this woman can honestly, accurately (Were you there?) describe intimate details of another woman's vagina, she should probably not post about it on a Christian ministry blog. Nor the details of her observations of her daughter's vaginas.

Imagine their experience in homeroom the next day!!!

Why do Christians spend time thinking about these kind of things regarding others!



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Jul 7, 2016 12:27:51   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Singularity wrote:
PATHEOS
Why Atheists Like Me Keep Talking About God
December 24, 2015536 Comments
by: Neil Carter
Earlier this week, a member of a relatively liberal Christian Facebook group to which I belong asked why the atheists in the group feel the need to insert themselves into discussions about religion when they aren’t believers themselves. If we don’t believe in God, why do we talk about him so much?

Avatar
John Eckhart
13 days ago
Why do atheists feel the need to “evangelize”? Because many of us devoutly believe that knowledge should be evidenced-based, and that it is dangerous to do otherwise. This applies not only to religious claims, but to politics, science and every other aspect of life. Those of us who hold to that view are
terrified by the fact that, in the 21st Century, a large swath of humanity
makes decisions based upon divine voices in their heads or their particular
interpretations of ancient fables written by primitive people who would have
thought that a kitchen match was a miracle. These are the voices and fables that have told people to fly planes into buildings, to invade Iraq, to marginalize and discriminate against women, to legitimize slavery (as was done in the antebellum American South), to conceal evidence of child-rape and protect the rapists "for the good of the church," to pray over their dying children rather than seeking medical help, to murder abortion doctors, to refuse blood transfusions , to play with (and die from) poisonous snakes, to impoverish themselves by contributing to religious con-men (the estimated loss to religious fraud for 2015 is $50 billion dollars), to suppress the progress of science, and to block the dissemination of knowledge in our schools. If you’re an orthodox jew it might lead you to harass women on the street who don’t comply with your dress code or to refuse to sit next to women on airplanes; if you’re an American christian your religion might lead you to hate gays and even picket the funerals of dead soldiers to publicize that hatred; if you’re an African christian it might lead you to kill “witches”; if you’re a muslim it might lead you to join ISIS and participate in its campaign of ruthless murders, or to mutilate women’s genitals. I think those are damn good reasons to evangelize against religion and in favor of atheism.
PATHEOS br Why Atheists Like Me Keep Talking About... (show quote)


If you dont believe in God why are you so worried about him.

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Jul 7, 2016 12:44:24   #
Singularity
 
bggamers wrote:
If you dont believe in God why are you so worried about him.


After you finish second grade, come back and read the article. That will answer your question! Then we can converse on topic!

Good talk.

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Jul 7, 2016 12:47:50   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Wow this person needs to get a life. Why bother even conversing with someone that confused. You will never hold a legitimate respectful conversation with someone this angry. I believe religion is man's way to try and relate to God ( man's way = why religion gets so screwed up). I believe Jesus Christ is God's way to reach man. I believe Jesus would scoff at organized religion.
bggamers wrote:
If you dont believe in God why are you so worried about him.

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Jul 7, 2016 13:23:52   #
Singularity
 
bggamers wrote:
If you dont believe in God why are you so worried about him.


And that is fifteen times! And each time a complete and cogent response was given.

Start learning to do your own independant research by finding those answers.

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Jul 7, 2016 13:46:02   #
PeterS
 
Singularity wrote:
PATHEOS
Why Atheists Like Me Keep Talking About God
December 24, 2015536 Comments
by: Neil Carter
Earlier this week, a member of a relatively liberal Christian Facebook group to which I belong asked why the atheists in the group feel the need to insert themselves into discussions about religion when they aren’t believers themselves. If we don’t believe in God, why do we talk about him so much?

Avatar
John Eckhart
13 days ago
Why do atheists feel the need to “evangelize”? Because many of us devoutly believe that knowledge should be evidenced-based, and that it is dangerous to do otherwise. This applies not only to religious claims, but to politics, science and every other aspect of life. Those of us who hold to that view are
PATHEOS br Why Atheists Like Me Keep Talking About... (show quote)

Earlier, in another thread, I stated that atheism replaces faith with reason and I had someone state that I didn't know what I was talking about. The sentence above seems to confirm what I was talking about--that there should be actual evidence to what I believe not the hope that my beliefs are true. It also convinces me that detractors don't understand atheism or the thought process that leads to it. They would do well to try to understand themselves instead of criticizing others for what they don't understand...

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Jul 7, 2016 13:47:40   #
PeterS
 
bggamers wrote:
If you dont believe in God why are you so worried about him.


The article explained why. Is your attention span too short to read it?

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Jul 7, 2016 13:47:53   #
wuzblynd Loc: thomson georgia
 
bggamers wrote:
If you dont believe in God why are you so worried about him.




👍

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Jul 7, 2016 13:50:13   #
PeterS
 
Singularity wrote:
And that is fifteen times! And each time a complete and cogent response was given.

Start learning to do your own independent research by finding those answers.

Oh, why do that when all you have to do is have your friends and acquaintances agree with what you are saying thereby finding truth through the beliefs of the majority.

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Jul 7, 2016 14:10:01   #
JW
 
bggamers wrote:
If you dont believe in God why are you so worried about him.


I don't think any non-believer is worried about God. They worry about the people who act in God's name, professing their special knowledge of God's needs and desires.

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Jul 7, 2016 14:21:55   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
John Eckhart wrote:
Why do atheists feel the need to “evangelize”? Because many of us devoutly believe that knowledge should be evidenced-based, and that it is dangerous to do otherwise.

Singularity wrote:
The very real harm done in the service of God Stories, when people use them to justify their meddling in the lives of other free people, leads me to try to educate, enlighten and relieve the misery inflicted for, to me, no good reason.

And yet you told me that you don't proselytize: to try to persuade people to join a religion, cause, or group

I'm sorry that you're too blind to see it.

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Jul 7, 2016 14:23:14   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Singularity wrote:
PATHEOS
Why Atheists Like Me Keep Talking About God
December 24, 2015536 Comments
by: Neil Carter
Earlier this week, a member of a relatively liberal Christian Facebook group to which I belong asked why the atheists in the group feel the need to insert themselves into discussions about religion when they aren’t believers themselves. If we don’t believe in God, why do we talk about him so much?

Avatar
John Eckhart
13 days ago
Why do atheists feel the need to “evangelize”? Because many of us devoutly believe that knowledge should be evidenced-based, and that it is dangerous to do otherwise. This applies not only to religious claims, but to politics, science and every other aspect of life. Those of us who hold to that view are
terrified by the fact that, in the 21st Century, a large swath of humanity
makes decisions based upon divine voices in their heads or their particular
interpretations of ancient fables written by primitive people who would have
thought that a kitchen match was a miracle. These are the voices and fables that have told people to fly planes into buildings, to invade Iraq, to marginalize and discriminate against women, to legitimize slavery (as was done in the antebellum American South), to conceal evidence of child-rape and protect the rapists "for the good of the church," to pray over their dying children rather than seeking medical help, to murder abortion doctors, to refuse blood transfusions , to play with (and die from) poisonous snakes, to impoverish themselves by contributing to religious con-men (the estimated loss to religious fraud for 2015 is $50 billion dollars), to suppress the progress of science, and to block the dissemination of knowledge in our schools. If you’re an orthodox jew it might lead you to harass women on the street who don’t comply with your dress code or to refuse to sit next to women on airplanes; if you’re an American christian your religion might lead you to hate gays and even picket the funerals of dead soldiers to publicize that hatred; if you’re an African christian it might lead you to kill “witches”; if you’re a muslim it might lead you to join ISIS and participate in its campaign of ruthless murders, or to mutilate women’s genitals. I think those are damn good reasons to evangelize against religion and in favor of atheism.
PATHEOS br Why Atheists Like Me Keep Talking About... (show quote)


“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then He is not omnipotent. Is He able, but not willing? Then He is malevolent. Is He both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is He neither able nor willing? Then why call Him God?” – Epicurus

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Jul 7, 2016 14:24:04   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
mwdegutis wrote:
John Eckhart wrote:
Why do atheists feel the need to “evangelize”? Because many of us devoutly believe that knowledge should be evidenced-based, and that it is dangerous to do otherwise.

Singularity wrote:
The very real harm done in the service of God Stories, when people use them to justify their meddling in the lives of other free people, leads me to try to educate, enlighten and relieve the misery inflicted for, to me, no good reason.

And yet you told me that you don't proselytize: to try to persuade people to join a religion, cause, or group

I'm sorry that you're too blind to see it.
John Eckhart wrote: br Why do atheists feel the ne... (show quote)


If the God created humans as sinners, how could he rightfully expect us to believe the corrupt messengers he has sent to teach us the way of life?

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