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Jul 7, 2016 07:13:26   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
BTW; It appears you have not figured out the that the Demo "leadership", had no intentions to ever give Bernie the Demo nomination.
Go after Wall street?
Straighten up, and smell the coffee straighten Up.

At least the Repubs finally have a legitimate candidate to do just that.


eagleye13 wrote:
I figure you know the Banking Cabal created the Great Depression, and all the business cycles. If not, there is not much sense on discussing this further.
The Fed was supposed to be put in place to get rid of the extreme cycles.
Well we still get them; and boy do the Banksters make out on the cycles they set up.
As long as they are given that power; The sheep will continue to be sheared.
Trouble is; the sheep are running out of wool. They can't grow it as fast as the shearers sheer it.

Hildabeast and Billy are expert shearers, and have ways to hide the wool. Trusts and foundations.

You appear to be afraid of upsetting the apple cart, as the PTB will sabotage a recovery; but in my opinion, and we have waited decades to long for reversing the planned slave system.
I figure you know the Banking Cabal created the Gr... (show quote)

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Jul 7, 2016 07:28:59   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
eagleye13 wrote:
BTW; It appears you have not figured out the that the Demo "leadership", had no intentions to ever give Bernie the Demo nomination.
Go after Wall street?
Straighten up, and smell the coffee straighten Up.

At least the Repubs finally have a legitimate candidate to do just that.


Sanders merely complemented bitch clinton's populist-manipulating game.
Read the piece by Peter Street I posted on "The Manipulation of Populism by Hillary Clinton and the Elites". It is one of the best that explains how the elite control Washington for their benefit no matter who is in power.

The reason I support Trump is because he is not part of that establishment as evidenced by his own party trying to hijack his nomination. That, plus his politically inCorrect speech.

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Jul 7, 2016 07:45:23   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Weird how some Dems can't figure that out yet.
They are slowly but surely.
AND the PTB are pooping their Pampers.
They are producing and paying for a whole lot of commercials for the Hildabeast.

buffalo wrote:
Sanders merely complemented bitch clinton's populist-manipulating game.
Read the piece by Peter Street I posted on "The Manipulation of Populism by Hillary Clinton and the Elites". It is one of the best that explains how the elite control Washington for their benefit no matter who is in power.

The reason I support Trump is because he is not part of that establishment as evidenced by his own party trying to hijack his nomination. That, plus his politically inCorrect speech.

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Jul 7, 2016 09:41:30   #
S. Maturin
 
straightUp wrote:
Yeah, that's what I call a circus and you're pretty good at it... "sacrificed upon her alter" that's good rhetoric there. You should wear the top hat and coat tails.



"Altar"... I said "altar".. although she altered everything from what's real into lies to fit her own ambitions.

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Jul 7, 2016 12:32:46   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
eagleye13 wrote:
I figure you know the Banking Cabal created the Great Depression, and all the business cycles. If not, there is not much sense on discussing this further.

Without getting details, yes I agree in the general sense.

eagleye13 wrote:

The Fed was supposed to be put in place to get rid of the extreme cycles.
Well we still get them; and boy do the Banksters make out on the cycles they set up.

Actually, that's a valid function... and even now the Fed does serve that purpose. For instance, the crash in 2007/08 was technically just as bad as it was in 1929 but because of the various safeguards that the Fed put in place much of the extreme repercussions that people experience in 1929 and the years following have been avoided. The drawback of course is that people get a false sense of security and don't actually realize how bad the problem is.

eagleye13 wrote:

As long as they are given that power; The sheep will continue to be sheared.

Without a doubt.

eagleye13 wrote:

Trouble is; the sheep are running out of wool. They can't grow it as fast as the shearers sheer it.

That's not a problem for those sheering sheep because they have the rest of the world to harvest. The problem is specific to the American workers who are now totally disposable. This is the situation that the "free" market has given us.

eagleye13 wrote:

Hildabeast and Billy are expert shearers, and have ways to hide the wool. Trusts and foundations.

Well, that's probably one of the weakest examples you can find. The Clintons are tiny gnats compared to the Rockerfeller, Rothchild and even Bush families. The Clintons were middle-class lawyers that got right into politics... Their well-publicized trusts and foundations were not esatblished until AFTER Bill's presidency. Although they vaulted into the top 1%, they are certainly not in the top .001% that could effectively be called the Oligarchy... Not even Trump is at that level.

Based on what you've been saying it seems you have a clue but that you're reacting to that clue as if there is nothing else to understand. I've been studying this stuff since the Reagan years and I am STILL learning. Also, I've noticed that when Obama stepped into office there was a sudden explosion of people who are all of a sudden concerned about the oligarchy. So it's hard to tell sometimes if the concern stems from an honest view of the oligarchy (which in reality supercedes partisan politics) or if stems from an unfocused view of oligarchy that functions as a poltical device.

eagleye13 wrote:

You appear to be afraid of upsetting the apple cart, as the PTB will sabotage a recovery; but in my opinion, and we have waited decades to long for reversing the planned slave system.

Are you suggesting that fixing things is only a matter of waiting long enough? That's like expecting your car to be fixed by waiting. It doesn't matter how long we wait, the only way to fix a car is to understand HOW to fix it. I'd say the mass majority of Americans today have no clue how to fix it. Liberals have been waiting for decades and most of them still don't know how to fix it and conservatives didn't even know there was a problem until about eight years ago.

If the apple cart is a reference to the fleecing of Americans I have absolutley no fear of it being upset. Clinton won't change it, Trump won't change it. The very notion that we can upset the apple cart by simply electing the "right man" to a four year term is perposterous. But you're right, there *IS* an apple cart that I am worried about upsetting and this hinges on my hope that Americans will somehow wake up in the next few years and come to terms with what we need to do. I think that Trump's most likley contribution would be chaos and confusion and that's the spilling of apples that would obstruct our path to true redemption.

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Jul 7, 2016 12:42:53   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Docadhoc wrote:
Are you another full mouthed loser who can't find a way to communicate civilly?

If you think.your moving on is a threat, you are as ignorant as you appear to be. Please move on. All you can do is ignore, deny, and swear.

If you had enough intelligence to read what I was replying to, you would answer your own questions smooth brain.

Move on dufus. You have nothing worthy to contribute.

If you had an answer to my challenge my foul language would not be an issue - you would just provide the answer and that would be enough to shut me up. But you don't have an answer. So you make an issue out of the words I choose. They're just words and they weren't even used to insult you, they were used for emphasis. And I'm not sorry for injuring your delicate sensibilities, maybe you shouldn't be posting comments about topics that are far more offensive than... words.

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Jul 7, 2016 12:46:59   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Docadhoc wrote:
I see. You're not only a foul mouthed loser, you are a self inflicted quiter afraid of your own shadow, and fancy yourself to be educated.

I was wrong. You are even more ignorant than I first thought. I had been giving you the benefit of the doubt and felt that your foul mouth was due to your inability to express yourself in a somewhat civil manner because you just don't know any better. Now I see your lack of control of your mouth actually exceeds your capacity to articulate on an adult level. Okay, you go on the list with the other narcissistic gutter trash.

Don't bother replaying to anything I say. You have nothing of value to contribute and we have more than enough morons to.ignore here.

Peace be with you smooth brain.
I see. You're not only a foul mouthed loser, you ... (show quote)

I guess my challenge really got to you didn't it? So if all you have left are insults, you won't have to worry about any further responses from me.

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Jul 7, 2016 13:01:41   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
eagleye13 wrote:
BTW; It appears you have not figured out the that the Demo "leadership", had no intentions to ever give Bernie the Demo nomination.

Oh, I'm aware... Every Bernie supporter is VERY aware of what happened and I'm pretty sure it happened for the reasons I already gave you.

eagleye13 wrote:

Go after Wall street?
Straighten up, and smell the coffee straighten Up.

LOL... cute.

eagleye13 wrote:

At least the Repubs finally have a legitimate candidate to do just that.

Really? Can you explain that to me? I mean I KNOW that he talks up a storm about how bad everything is and how all the politicians suck, but who can't do that? What I would like to know his plan. You're obviously more confident than I am... maybe you know something I don't. Please, inform me.

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Jul 7, 2016 13:04:02   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
S. Maturin wrote:
"Altar"... I said "altar".. although she altered everything from what's real into lies to fit her own ambitions.

Yes, I know what you mean... that was a typo on my part. But I give you points for leveraging my typo... that was clever.

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Jul 7, 2016 13:05:46   #
S. Maturin
 
straightUp wrote:
Yes, I know what you mean... that was a typo on my part. But I give you points for leveraging my typo... that was clever.


Just wanted to be sure you could ascertain my "intent".


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Jul 7, 2016 13:26:24   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
buffalo wrote:
Sanders merely complemented bitch clinton's populist-manipulating game.
Read the piece by Peter Street I posted on "The Manipulation of Populism by Hillary Clinton and the Elites". It is one of the best that explains how the elite control Washington for their benefit no matter who is in power.

I'll have to read that myself - 'sounds interesting.

buffalo wrote:

The reason I support Trump is because he is not part of that establishment as evidenced by his own party trying to hijack his nomination. That, plus his politically inCorrect speech.

So then... politically incorrect ranting is a qualification for presidency?
Look, I don't mean to be offensive but you DO realize that the Republican Party has been fracturing since Bush anyway right? And you DO realize that ANY political candidate without a track record to scrutinize can pretty much paint himself anyway he wants right?

So, I'm going to ask you the same thing I asked eagleye13... and this is an honest question...

How do you think Trump will do it? What makes you think he's the guy who will face up to Wall Street and make them change their ways? I mean aside from the fact that he talks a lot of shit?

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Jul 7, 2016 13:29:33   #
Big Bass
 
straightUp wrote:
So then... politically incorrect ranting is a qualification for presidency?
Look, I don't mean to be offensive but you DO realize that the Republican Party has been fracturing since Bush anyway right? And you DO realize that ANY political candidate without a track record to scrutinize can pretty much paint himself anyway he wants right?

So, I'm going to ask you the same thing I asked eagleye13... and this is an honest question...

How do you think Trump will do it? What makes you think he's the guy who will face up to Wall Street and make them change their ways? I mean aside from the fact that he talks a lot of shit?
So then... politically incorrect ranting is a qual... (show quote)


Political incorrectness should be mandatory for ALL future presidents. Let's only deal with bare facts, not candy-coated rhetoric.

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Jul 7, 2016 14:01:34   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
So then... politically incorrect ranting is a qualification for presidency?
Look, I don't mean to be offensive but you DO realize that the Republican Party has been fracturing since Bush anyway right? And you DO realize that ANY political candidate without a track record to scrutinize can pretty much paint himself anyway he wants right?

So, I'm going to ask you the same thing I asked eagleye13... and this is an honest question...

How do you think Trump will do it? What makes you think he's the guy who will face up to Wall Street and make them change their ways? I mean aside from the fact that he talks a lot of shit?
So then... politically incorrect ranting is a qual... (show quote)


First off, Trump is exposing the system that everybody already knows is rigged in favor of the Wall Street and corporate elite. But very few, if any, (Ron Paul, somewhat)will talk about. The right arm (republicans) of the corporate party is not more falling off that the left arm (democrats) is cutting it off. Surely you see the false left/right dichotomy that both arms of the corporate party establishment use to keep the vast majority of the sheople distracted and divided with. Why do YOU think that the right arm establishment is so opposed to Trump? He is exposing the rigged system and that is forbidden by entrenched DC politicians.

Don't know. He will have to convince the majority of 535 member of Congress to accomplish anything unless he resorts to obammy's tactic of Presidential edicts. I don't know if he would even make it to the Presidency, he might have some horrible accident, mysterious heart attack, or even get assassinated if it appears he will beat bitch clinton. All I know is I like what he says about immigration, trade, punishing corporate job outsourcing with tarrifs, 15% tax with no loopholes, putting the US first in all matters of foreign policy, single payer health insurance, etc. Whether he could accomplish those things depends a lot on Congress. Who knows?

BUT, I do KNOW that bitch clinton would continue the same corrupt corporate/government collusion for the benefit of her Wall Street and corporate puppet masters as the last 4 POTUSs have. I guess my vote for Trump is a vote against the most corrupt, incompetent individual IMO ever to run for POTUS and continuing the status quo.

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Jul 7, 2016 15:07:42   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Who knows what Trump will be able to accomplish straightUp. I am convinced Trump will try as no one else has, that were able to get either an R or D nomination. All R&D admins have been fillrd with Bilderberger CFR front men The enemy of a free Republic will not go down without a fight. They are expressing and spending right now.

I post this because it covers the CFR in total. I hope others will copy and save for future reference.
Every one that cares, and wants to know what America is up against; should copy, save, and share with others:
URL for Roster of CFR/Trilateral Commission Members is below
Hillary Clinton Frankly Reveals the CFR Is Running the USA ...
Hillary Clinton spills the beans at the inauguration of the new office for Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in Washington, D.C. Some have said it was simply a slip of the tongue but whatever the perception is Clinton frankly revealed who's running the show in these United States:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2T-5Pd3oYY
Zionist control of CFR: http://www.rense.com/general48/captiv.htm

Some Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) Facts
The 3,000 seats of the CFR quickly filled with members of America's elite. Today, CFR members occupy key positions in government, the mass media, financial institutions, multinational corporations, the military, and the national security apparatus.
Since its inception, the CFR has served as an intermediary between high finance, big oil, corporate elitists and the U.S. government. The executive branch changes hands between Republican and Democratic administrations, but cabinet seats are always held by CFR members. It has been said by political commentators on the left and on the right that if you want to know what U.S. foreign policy will be next year, you should read Foreign Affairs this year.
The CFR's claim that "The Council has no affiliation with the U.S. government" is laughable. The justification for that statement is that funding comes from member dues, subscriptions to its Corporate Program, foundation grants, and so forth. All this really means is that the U.S. government does not exert any control over the CFR via the purse strings.
Since 1940, every U.S. secretary of state (except for Gov. James Byrnes of South Carolina, the sole exception) has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and/or its younger brother, the Trilateral Commission. Also since 1940, every secretary of war and every secretary of defense has been a CFR member. During most of its existence, the Central Intelligence Agency has been headed by CFR members, beginning with CFR founding member Allen Dulles. Virtually every key U.S. national security and foreign policy adviser has been a CFR member for the past seventy years.
Almost all White House cabinet positions are occupied by CFR members. President Clinton, himself a member of the CFR, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group, employs almost one hundred CFR members in his administration. Presidents come and go, but the CFR's power--and agenda--always remains.
The CFR's Shroud of Secrecy - On its web page, the CFR boasts that its magazine, Foreign Affairs, "is acclaimed for its analysis of recent international developments and for its forecasts of emerging trends." It's not much of a challenge to do so, though, when you play a part in determining what those emerging trends will be.
So are they predicting trends or creating them? The answer is fairly obvious to anyone who has earnestly reflected on the matter.
The CFR fancies itself to represent a diverse range cultural and political interests, but its members are predominantly wealthy males, and their policies reflect their elitist biases. The CFR attempts to maintain the charade of diversity via its Non-Attribution Rule, which allows members to engage in "a free, frank, and open exchange of ideas" without fear of having any of their statements attributed in public. The flip side of this, obviously, is a dark cloud of secrecy which envelopes the CFR's activities.
CFR meetings are usually held in secret and are restricted to members and very select guests. All members are free to express themselves at meetings unrestrained, because the Non-Attribution Rule guarantees that "others will not attribute or characterize their statements in public media forums or knowingly transmit them to persons who will," according to the Council on Foreign Relations' 1992 Annual Report.
The report goes on to forbid any meeting participant "to publish a speaker's statement in attributed form in any newspaper; to repeat it on television or radio, or on a speaker's platform, or in a classroom; or to go beyond a memo of limited circulation."
The end result is that the only information the public has on the CFR is the information they release for public consumption, which should send up red flags for anyone who understands the immense effect that CFR directives have on America's foreign policy. The public knows what the CFR wants the public to know about the CFR, and nothing more. There is one hole in the fog of secrecy, however: a book entitled Tragedy and Hope, written by an "insider" named Dr. Carroll Quigley, mentor of Bill Clinton.
Google: “Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral, Commission, Bilderberg Group”________________________________________
A few more notables in Both Parties Serving Bilderberger’s CFR/TC/BB AGENDA:
Bush Sr. - CFR,B (R)
Bush Jr? Cabinet CFR (R)
Both Clintons - CFR,TC,B (D)
Jimmy Carter - CFR,TC (D)
Obama & Biden - CFR (D)
Dick Cheney - CFR,TC (R)
Newt Gingrich - CFR (R)
Mitch McConnell - CFR (R)
Rick Perry - BB,2007 (D&R)
John Kerry CFR (D)
John McCain - CFR (R)
Zbig Brzezinski - TC, BB (D)
Heny Kissinger BB,CFR,TC (R) Paul Volker- CFR,TC,BB (D) Alan Greenspan CFR,TC,BB
Ben Bernanke BB
Tim Geithner - CFR,TC BB
David Rockefeller CFR,TC,BB George Soros - CFR,BB (D)
Albert Gore, Jr. CFR,TC (D)
Donald Rumsfeld CFR ,BB(R)
Jacob “Jack” Lew CFR (D)
Robert Gates BB,CFR,TC (D
Leon Panetta CFR (D)
Lee Hamilton CFR,TC (R)
Robert Reich CFR (D)
Condoleezza Rice CFR (R)
Susan Rice CFR (D)
Ted Cruz (wife) CFR (R)
Donna Shalala CFR/TC (D)
Donald Brennan CFR (D)
Benjamin Netanyahu CFR’88


THE MEDIA:
George Will - CFR,TC (R)
George Stephanopoulos
CFR, BB (D)
William Kristol BB (R) William Buckley Jr. CFR,BB (R)
Tom Brokaw CFR
James Traub - NY Times CFR

FOX owner
Rupert Murdock – CFR, BB
FOX SPINNERS
John Bolton CFR (R)
Charles Krauthammer CFR(R)
Doug Schoen CFR
Washington Post owner
Katherine Graham CFR,TC,BB
CNBC Spinnner:
Larry Kudlow CFR/88

CNN Spinner:
David Richmond Gergen
BB/CFR/TC/92 (D)
Robert B. Reich CFR (D)
Brian Williams - CFR
In the News:
Haley Barbour CFR (D)
Eric Holder CFR (D)
Larry Summers CFR, BB
Janet Yellen CFR (D)
Chuck Hagel CFR (D)
Sylvia Burwell CFR/11 (D)
Jeh Johnson CFR (D)
Ashton Carter CFR/92 (D)

More Politicians:

Fred Thompson CFR (R)
Charles B. Rangel CFR (D)
Barney Frank CFR (D)

Richard Newton Gardner CFR/RS/TC/84
Ruth Bader Ginsburg (D) CFR/92
Sandra Day O'Connor (R) CFR/92
Robert Strange McNamara CFR/BB/TC/84 (R&D)

Warren Christopher CFR (D)
Madeleine Albright CFR (D)
Samuel Richard ("Sandy") Berger CFR/BB (R)


Michael Froman CFR (D)
Military
General David Petraeus CFR,
CIA Director Chuck Hagel CFR
International Bankers - James Wolfensohn Paul Wolfowitz, Alan Greenspan, Tim Geithner CFR,TC,BB
Michael V. Hayden CFR CIA/NSA

Obama’s Executive Cabinet members:
In order of succession to the Presidency:

Vice President of the United States
Joseph R. Biden CFR/88

Department of State
Secretary Hillary Rodham BB/CFR/RS/TC –
See Hillary’s speaches at CFR meeting on Youtube


Department of the Treasury
Secretary Timothy F. Geithner BB/CFR/TC/09
NOW: Jacob “Jack” Lew CFR

Department of Defense
Secretary Leon E. Panetta CFR


Chuck Hagel CFR

Department of Justice
Attorney General; Eric Holder CFR

Newbees:
Ashton Carter CFR/92
Jeh Charles Johnson CFR

Pentagon Senior Counsel CFR

Director, CIA/ DHS Secretary
Jeh Charles Johnson CFR

Sylvia Mathews Burwell CFR/11


More positions filled with CFR:


Department of Commerce
Secretary John E. Bryson CFR/TC/88

Department of Veterans Affairs
Secretary Eric K. Shinseki CFR


Department of Homeland Security
Secretary Janet A. Napolitano CFR
Florida Representative and DNC Chair, Debbie Wasserman Schultz. CFR

United States Ambassador to the United Nations
Ambassador Susan Rice CFR
White House Chief of Staff
Bill Daley CFR
Department of Agriculture
Secretary Thomas J. Vilsack CFR
Source: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/cfrall1.htm#d
http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/roundtable/CFRA-Elist.html - Initial List of Council on Foreign Relations Members

Hillary Clinton Frankly Reveals the CFR Is Running the USA ...
Hillary Clinton spills the beans at the inauguration of the new office for Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in Washington, D.C. Some have said it was simply a slip of the tongue but whatever the perception is Clinton frankly revealed who's running the show in these United States:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2T-5Pd3oYY

Cheney on CFR, Council on Foreign Relations http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOAk-7F1EVU





straightUp wrote:
So then... politically incorrect ranting is a qualification for presidency?
Look, I don't mean to be offensive but you DO realize that the Republican Party has been fracturing since Bush anyway right? And you DO realize that ANY political candidate without a track record to scrutinize can pretty much paint himself anyway he wants right?

So, I'm going to ask you the same thing I asked eagleye13... and this is an honest question...

How do you think Trump will do it? What makes you think he's the guy who will face up to Wall Street and make them change their ways? I mean aside from the fact that he talks a lot of shit?
So then... politically incorrect ranting is a qual... (show quote)

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Jul 7, 2016 20:45:52   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
straightUp wrote:
Are you suggesting that fixing things is only a matter of waiting long enough? That's like expecting your car to be fixed by waiting. It doesn't matter how long we wait, the only way to fix a car is to understand HOW to fix it. I'd say the mass majority of Americans today have no clue how to fix it. Liberals have been waiting for decades and most of them still don't know how to fix it and conservatives didn't even know there was a problem until about eight years ago.

If the apple cart is a reference to the fleecing of Americans I have absolutley no fear of it being upset. Clinton won't change it, Trump won't change it. The very notion that we can upset the apple cart by simply electing the "right man" to a four year term is perposterous. But you're right, there *IS* an apple cart that I am worried about upsetting and this hinges on my hope that Americans will somehow wake up in the next few years and come to terms with what we need to do. I think that Trump's most likley contribution would be chaos and confusion and that's the spilling of apples that would obstruct our path to true redemption.
Are you suggesting that fixing things is only a ma... (show quote)


Excellent commentary. I believe the comment regarding conservatives didn't know there was a problem until 8 years ago is somewhat incorrect as I believe it didn't come forward until Obama's polarization of America placed the WH under a microscope. At that point I believe people started to pay more attention and realize some things were occurring that they didn't like, and began asking questions.

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