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Jun 30, 2016 17:44:52   #
Nickolai
 
JFlorio wrote:
Ricko pretty sure a certain type of person doesn't care if four Amercans died if Hillaty didnt pull the trigger. Hell they wouldn't care if Hillary pulled the trigger much less lied. The bitching about wasted money from liberals would be funny if not so disgusting. If this administration hadn't lied to us and been forthcoming to begin with this investigation would have been done two years ago. Only 25% of the people believe Hillary honest yet over 70% of Democrats support her. All we need to know.
Ricko pretty sure a certain type of person doesn't... (show quote)





There is no alternative, the Republicans have no one worth voting for they are bereft of ideas on how to govern all they know how to do is sling mud, make mountains out of mole hills, and hope it will destroy their opponents

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Jun 30, 2016 17:58:08   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
jasfourth401 wrote:
According to military protocol and chain of command, the TOC of AFRICOM was tasked with this decision. This has been known since the very first investigation into this. I've found the best explanation to be as follows from a career military person:

"Since most of you have never worked in a TOC (Tactical Operations Center), let me fill you in on who gives the orders to ‘stand down’. We have SOPs (Standard Operating Procedures) that we follow when an Embassy, a Base, or a Post is being attacked. Part of those procedures do NOT include calling the White House to ask for advice or permission to take action. The Battle Captain in that TOC makes the initial call to alert the QRF or CIF. Once the immediate chain of command is notified, a Colonel or a General (as in this case) will make the final decision as to ramp up, execute, or stand down. Again, we don’t ever call the White House to ask for permission or guidance in these matters. Generals already have the authority to take immediate action in those situations. That’s why we have Colonels and Generals. These High ranking officers are entrusted to make these type of decisions on the battlefield. So I hate to break it to you guys, but the President is NOT part of that decision making process. The President and high ranking officials like Hillary, Panetta, and Petraeus are eventually notified of situations like this and kept updated thereafter. However, it’s the Combatant Commander that is responsible for that area who makes the final call to execute mission or ‘stand down’. In this case, the AOR (Area of Responsibility) was AFRICOM and the Combatant Commander for AFRICOM was GEN Ham.
Although, GEN Ham is the AFRICOM Commander and would normally give the final order and what most of the media on Broadcast and Cable have failed to mention is that GEN Ham was actually in DC during the attack. In this case, his 2nd in command assumes the responsibility the day he leaves area. In addition, the Commander of SOCAFRICA also comes into play because it falls under AFRICOM and they are directly in charge of the Special Forces for that AOR. That Commander was Rear Adm Brian Losey...and he testified, along with many other officers, that there was NO stand down order ever given.
In summary, Stand Down orders are not given by the President or Hillary Clinton...that's why we have Generals, Admirals, and other Commanders.
My Background: Served 21 years in the US Army as an Infantryman...both as an enlisted member and a commissioned officer. Deployed 4 times (Bosnia, Turkey, Iraq, Afghanistan).
I also worked in a BDOC and JTOC."
According to military protocol and chain of comman... (show quote)



jasfourth401- according to the report there was a Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team (FAST) sitting on the tarmac in Rota, Spain -ready to go at 5:45AM or so but the State Dept , P. Kennedy , was not sure whether the marines should go into Libyan in uniform or in civilian clothes. They feared that the Libyans would think it was an invasion . So the marines changed in and out of uniform 4 times in three hours ,while government officials dithered, and were never able to leave in time to help the four Americans left to fend for themselves. There were other contingencies but the end result was that they arrived 23 hours after the attack was supposedly over. Don't know whether a C-130 could have got them there in time since Rota would be about 2000 miles away. Looks like all military efforts were made after the fact. Who will be held accountable if any ? Good Luck America !!!

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Jun 30, 2016 18:03:28   #
Nickolai
 
bmac32 wrote:
Well just maybe you should read it.
http://benghazi.house.gov/NewInfo








When Trey Gowdy was asked about the Hillary lied people died bumper stickers he replied" you will not find that on my vehicle or anything I own "

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Jun 30, 2016 18:05:39   #
Nickolai
 
bmac32 wrote:
And just whom caused this money to be spent, none other that Hillary Clinton, all she had to do was admit they SCREWED up!






The system screwed up There wasn't enough money to provide security because the Republican dominated House would not provide the necessary funds for additional security

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Jun 30, 2016 18:07:44   #
Nickolai
 
S. Maturin wrote:
Yup, and so that makes us of the minority conservative group wonder about that 50+% of the democrat party who want to reward her and sit her onto what she sees as a throne.

I work for, contribute to, and pray for a resurrection of traditional American values and judgment.






And what is traditional American values bombing the shit out of brown people?

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Jun 30, 2016 18:10:50   #
Nickolai
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Not Hardly!!!!! Damn you people are stupid, two years ago the GOP led Benghazi investigation found the same results as the those released today!

(Nov. 24, 2014) GOP Led Benghazi Investigation Finds No Wrongdoing in the Benghazi Attack!

http://www.npr.org/2014/11/24/366379320/house-committees-find-no-wrongdoing-in-2012-benghazi-attack


This was the 8th Benghazi investigation brought on by the GOP for the sole purpose of destroying Hillarys run at the White House!

They are responsible for the wasted time and $7 million!
Not Hardly!!!!! Damn you people are stupid, two ye... (show quote)


Yew but they don't want to remember that. They were hoping some smoking gun would be discovered this time

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Jun 30, 2016 18:11:18   #
S. Maturin
 
Nickolai wrote:
And what is traditional American values bombing the shit out of brown people?


Brown people who want to slaughter others? Yes.

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Jun 30, 2016 18:18:48   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Nickolai wrote:
There is no alternative, the Republicans have no one worth voting for they are bereft of ideas on how to govern all they know how to do is sling mud, make mountains out of mole hills, and hope it will destroy their opponents


Trump is the first conservative non CFR/Bilderberger stooge in the Republican party to get the nomination in a long time.
The NRC wiped Ron Paul out, as well as Pat Buchanan.
The PTB are not getting their set-up this go around. At least so far.

Hillary Clinton Frankly Reveals the CFR Is Running the USA ...
Hillary Clinton spills the beans at the inauguration of the new office for Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in Washington, D.C. Some have said it was simply a slip of the tongue but whatever the perception is Clinton frankly revealed who's running the show in these United States:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2T-5Pd3oYY
Zionist control of CFR: http://www.rense.com/general48/captiv.htm

Some Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) Facts
The 3,000 seats of the CFR quickly filled with members of America's elite. Today, CFR members occupy key positions in government, the mass media, financial institutions, multinational corporations, the military, and the national security apparatus.
Since its inception, the CFR has served as an intermediary between high finance, big oil, corporate elitists and the U.S. government. The executive branch changes hands between Republican and Democratic administrations, but cabinet seats are always held by CFR members. It has been said by political commentators on the left and on the right that if you want to know what U.S. foreign policy will be next year, you should read Foreign Affairs this year.
The CFR's claim that "The Council has no affiliation with the U.S. government" is laughable. The justification for that statement is that funding comes from member dues, subscriptions to its Corporate Program, foundation grants, and so forth. All this really means is that the U.S. government does not exert any control over the CFR via the purse strings.
Since 1940, every U.S. secretary of state (except for Gov. James Byrnes of South Carolina, the sole exception) has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and/or its younger brother, the Trilateral Commission. Also since 1940, every secretary of war and every secretary of defense has been a CFR member. During most of its existence, the Central Intelligence Agency has been headed by CFR members, beginning with CFR founding member Allen Dulles. Virtually every key U.S. national security and foreign policy adviser has been a CFR member for the past seventy years.
Almost all White House cabinet positions are occupied by CFR members. President Clinton, himself a member of the CFR, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group, employs almost one hundred CFR members in his administration. Presidents come and go, but the CFR's power--and agenda--always remains.
The CFR's Shroud of Secrecy - On its web page, the CFR boasts that its magazine, Foreign Affairs, "is acclaimed for its analysis of recent international developments and for its forecasts of emerging trends." It's not much of a challenge to do so, though, when you play a part in determining what those emerging trends will be.
So are they predicting trends or creating them? The answer is fairly obvious to anyone who has earnestly reflected on the matter.
The CFR fancies itself to represent a diverse range cultural and political interests, but its members are predominantly wealthy males, and their policies reflect their elitist biases. The CFR attempts to maintain the charade of diversity via its Non-Attribution Rule, which allows members to engage in "a free, frank, and open exchange of ideas" without fear of having any of their statements attributed in public. The flip side of this, obviously, is a dark cloud of secrecy which envelopes the CFR's activities.
CFR meetings are usually held in secret and are restricted to members and very select guests. All members are free to express themselves at meetings unrestrained, because the Non-Attribution Rule guarantees that "others will not attribute or characterize their statements in public media forums or knowingly transmit them to persons who will," according to the Council on Foreign Relations' 1992 Annual Report.
The report goes on to forbid any meeting participant "to publish a speaker's statement in attributed form in any newspaper; to repeat it on television or radio, or on a speaker's platform, or in a classroom; or to go beyond a memo of limited circulation."
The end result is that the only information the public has on the CFR is the information they release for public consumption, which should send up red flags for anyone who understands the immense effect that CFR directives have on America's foreign policy. The public knows what the CFR wants the public to know about the CFR, and nothing more. There is one hole in the fog of secrecy, however: a book entitled Tragedy and Hope, written by an "insider" named Dr. Carroll Quigley, mentor of Bill Clinton.
Google: “Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral, Commission, Bilderberg Group”________________________________________
A few more notables in Both Parties Serving Bilderberger’s CFR/TC/BB AGENDA:
Bush Sr. - CFR,B (R)
Bush Jr? Cabinet CFR (R)
Both Clintons - CFR,TC,B (D)
Jimmy Carter - CFR,TC (D)
Obama & Biden - CFR (D)
Dick Cheney - CFR,TC (R)
Newt Gingrich - CFR (R)
Mitch McConnell - CFR (R)
Rick Perry - BB,2007 (D&R)
John Kerry CFR (D)
John McCain - CFR (R)
Zbig Brzezinski - TC, BB (D)
Heny Kissinger BB,CFR,TC (R) Paul Volker- CFR,TC,BB (D) Alan Greenspan CFR,TC,BB
Ben Bernanke BB
Tim Geithner - CFR,TC BB
David Rockefeller CFR,TC,BB George Soros - CFR,BB (D)
Albert Gore, Jr. CFR,TC (D)
Donald Rumsfeld CFR ,BB(R)
Jacob “Jack” Lew CFR (D)
Robert Gates BB,CFR,TC (D
Leon Panetta CFR (D)
Lee Hamilton CFR,TC (R)
Robert Reich CFR (D)
Condoleezza Rice CFR (R)
Susan Rice CFR (D)
Ted Cruz (wife) CFR (R)
Donna Shalala CFR/TC (D)
Donald Brennan CFR (D)
Benjamin Netanyahu CFR’88


THE MEDIA:
George Will - CFR,TC (R)
George Stephanopoulos
CFR, BB (D)
William Kristol BB (R) William Buckley Jr. CFR,BB (R)
Tom Brokaw CFR
James Traub - NY Times CFR

FOX owner
Rupert Murdock – CFR, BB
FOX SPINNERS
John Bolton CFR (R)
Charles Krauthammer CFR(R)
Doug Schoen CFR
Washington Post owner
Katherine Graham CFR,TC,BB
CNBC Spinnner:
Larry Kudlow CFR/88

CNN Spinner:
David Richmond Gergen
BB/CFR/TC/92 (D)
Robert B. Reich CFR (D)
Brian Williams - CFR
In the News:
Haley Barbour CFR (D)
Eric Holder CFR (D)
Larry Summers CFR, BB
Janet Yellen CFR (D)
Chuck Hagel CFR (D)
Sylvia Burwell CFR/11 (D)
Jeh Johnson CFR (D)
Ashton Carter CFR/92 (D)

More Politicians:

Fred Thompson CFR (R)
Charles B. Rangel CFR (D)
Barney Frank CFR (D)

Richard Newton Gardner CFR/RS/TC/84
Ruth Bader Ginsburg (D) CFR/92
Sandra Day O'Connor (R) CFR/92
Robert Strange McNamara CFR/BB/TC/84 (R&D)

Warren Christopher CFR (D)
Madeleine Albright CFR (D)
Samuel Richard ("Sandy") Berger CFR/BB (R)


Michael Froman CFR (D)
Military
General David Petraeus CFR,
CIA Director Chuck Hagel CFR
International Bankers - James Wolfensohn Paul Wolfowitz, Alan Greenspan, Tim Geithner CFR,TC,BB
Michael V. Hayden CFR CIA/NSA

Obama’s Executive Cabinet members:
In order of succession to the Presidency:

Vice President of the United States
Joseph R. Biden CFR/88

Department of State
Secretary Hillary Rodham BB/CFR/RS/TC –
See Hillary’s speaches at CFR meeting on Youtube


Department of the Treasury
Secretary Timothy F. Geithner BB/CFR/TC/09
NOW: Jacob “Jack” Lew CFR

Department of Defense
Secretary Leon E. Panetta CFR


Chuck Hagel CFR

Department of Justice
Attorney General; Eric Holder CFR

Newbees:
Ashton Carter CFR/92
Jeh Charles Johnson CFR

Pentagon Senior Counsel CFR

Director, CIA/ DHS Secretary
Jeh Charles Johnson CFR

Sylvia Mathews Burwell CFR/11


More positions filled with CFR:


Department of Commerce
Secretary John E. Bryson CFR/TC/88

Department of Veterans Affairs
Secretary Eric K. Shinseki CFR


Department of Homeland Security
Secretary Janet A. Napolitano CFR
Florida Representative and DNC Chair, Debbie Wasserman Schultz. CFR

United States Ambassador to the United Nations
Ambassador Susan Rice CFR
White House Chief of Staff
Bill Daley CFR
Department of Agriculture
Secretary Thomas J. Vilsack CFR
Source: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/cfrall1.htm#d
http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/roundtable/CFRA-Elist.html - Initial List of Council on Foreign Relations Members

Hillary Clinton Frankly Reveals the CFR Is Running the USA ...
Hillary Clinton spills the beans at the inauguration of the new office for Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in Washington, D.C. Some have said it was simply a slip of the tongue but whatever the perception is Clinton frankly revealed who's running the show in these United States:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2T-5Pd3oYY

Cheney on CFR, Council on Foreign Relations http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOAk-7F1EVU

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Jun 30, 2016 18:22:32   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
PeterS wrote:
I haven't read the report and I doubt you have either. But it has been read and Gowdy has even spoken that he couldn't find anything on Hillary--do you think he wouldn't have said so if he could have found something on her?

Speak up and speak clearly. What do you thing Gowdy is trying to hide?




What a crock of shit you and glaucon are. I have read the report. And the whole report is full of deliberate
wrong doings, it makes one want to scream in outrage. And the one that holds the most responsibility, was the Secretary of State, Your love "Hillary Clinton" .

Here is a sample of but many recommendations made before the Benghazi attack, directed directly to SS Clinton. And just like her E-mail account, she failed totally to obey the long held practice of responsibility.
The SS chose to ignore, what her own governmental security put in front of her. Clinton is directly responsible
for Benghazi.




" Two recommendations identified by the East African ARBs were directed
specifically to the Secretary of State:
Recommendation #4: The Secretary of State should personally
review the security situation of embassy chanceries and other official
premises, closing those which are highly vulnerable and
threatened but for which adequate security enhancements cannot
be provided, and seek new secure premises for permanent use, or
temporary occupancy, pending construction of new buildings.13
Recommendation #13: First and foremost, the Secretary of State
should take a personal and active role in carrying out the responsibility
of ensuring the security of U.S. diplomatic personnel
abroad. It is essential to convey to the entire Department that security
is one of the highest priorities. In the process, the Secretary
should reexamine the present organizational structure with
the objective of clarifying responsibilities, encouraging better
coordination, and assuring that a single high-ranking officer is
accountable for all security matters and has the authority necessary
to coordinate on the Secretary’s behalf such activities within
the Department of State and with all foreign affairs USG agencies.14 "

The ARB { Accountability Review Board } Is a must read and understand documents given to all SS's

It is very clear these documents were to boring and mundane for her to be concerned with. Much more pressing matters concerning the Clinton foundation needed to be addressed.


Clinton was, and is to this day, the one responsible for the death of these four brave Americans.

No other conclusion is possible.


RETW


Oh shit, how do I get out of this one?
Oh shit, how do I get out of this one?...

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Jun 30, 2016 18:30:05   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Is there a way to deport Hillary?
Is Guantanamo still available for holding foreign assets?

RETW wrote:
What a crock of shit you and glaucon are. I have read the report. And the whole report is full of deliberate
wrong doings, it makes one want to scream in outrage. And the one that holds the most responsibility, was the Secretary of State, Your love "Hillary Clinton" .

Here is a sample of but many recommendations made before the Benghazi attack, directed directly to SS Clinton. And just like her E-mail account, she failed totally to obey the long held practice of responsibility.
The SS chose to ignore, what her own governmental security put in front of her. Clinton is directly responsible
for Benghazi.




" Two recommendations identified by the East African ARBs were directed
specifically to the Secretary of State:
Recommendation #4: The Secretary of State should personally
review the security situation of embassy chanceries and other official
premises, closing those which are highly vulnerable and
threatened but for which adequate security enhancements cannot
be provided, and seek new secure premises for permanent use, or
temporary occupancy, pending construction of new buildings.13
Recommendation #13: First and foremost, the Secretary of State
should take a personal and active role in carrying out the responsibility
of ensuring the security of U.S. diplomatic personnel
abroad. It is essential to convey to the entire Department that security
is one of the highest priorities. In the process, the Secretary
should reexamine the present organizational structure with
the objective of clarifying responsibilities, encouraging better
coordination, and assuring that a single high-ranking officer is
accountable for all security matters and has the authority necessary
to coordinate on the Secretary’s behalf such activities within
the Department of State and with all foreign affairs USG agencies.14 "

The ARB { Accountability Review Board } Is a must read and understand documents given to all SS's

It is very clear these documents were to boring and mundane for her to be concerned with. Much more pressing matters concerning the Clinton foundation needed to be addressed.


Clinton was, and is to this day, the one responsible for the death of these four brave Americans.

No other conclusion is possible.


RETW

What a crock of shit you and glaucon are. I have... (show quote)



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Jun 30, 2016 18:35:22   #
PawneeCounty Loc: Oklahoma USA
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Is there a way to deport Hillary?
Is Guantanamo still available for holding foreign assets?



Is there a way to deport Hillary? br Is Guantanamo... (show quote)


I suggest a 12 gauge works just fine.

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Jun 30, 2016 18:56:34   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
Nickolai wrote:
The system screwed up There wasn't enough money to provide security because the Republican dominated House would not provide the necessary funds for additional security


Nickolai-try as you might, you cannot defend Hillary on this one. It was incumbent upon her to pull her people out of the danger zone if she could not provide them security. To send someone in on the eve of 9/11 was just plain stupid. Hillary is untrustworthy, incompetent and lacks the judgement needed in the top job. America will regret its mistake if such a corrupt person is elected president and the world will realize that corruption is acceptable and even lauded by some in America !!! Good Luck America !!!

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Jun 30, 2016 19:14:21   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Yep! Some representative for America.

Ricko wrote:
Nickolai-try as you might, you cannot defend Hillary on this one. It was incumbent upon her to pull her people out of the danger zone if she could not provide them security. To send someone in on the eve of 9/11 was just plain stupid. Hillary is untrustworthy, incompetent and lacks the judgement needed in the top job. America will regret its mistake if such a corrupt person is elected president and the world will realize that corruption is acceptable and even lauded by some in America !!! Good Luck America !!!
Nickolai-try as you might, you cannot defend Hilla... (show quote)



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Jun 30, 2016 20:18:37   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
Question: Who could, or even would, be a "peer" of the monster?


I could handle it long enough to get the job done!

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Jun 30, 2016 22:58:29   #
valkyrierider Loc: "Land of Trump"
 
PeterS wrote:
I haven't read the report and I doubt you have either. But it has been read and Gowdy has even spoken that he couldn't find anything on Hillary--do you think he wouldn't have said so if he could have found something on her?

Speak up and speak clearly. What do you thing Gowdy is trying to hide?


If you had listened to what Gowdy said was that he was told not to name names but to give facts and the facts showed that all the top officials were involved and that included Hilliary and Obama. You are one blonde headed stupid sh_ _head. How about getting your facts straight and get your head out of hiliarys ass.

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