Do You Love Crazy Demented Apostate Pope Francis ??? (Page 2): I also agree that the church will be raptured before the tribulation and I have a feeling that's Steve's belief as well.

PZG1225 Loc: Florida

JFlorio wrote:

I know I am wasting my time here, but I to am a Christian. I study the Bible and prophesies. In my belief you won't lose your head unless you go visit ISIS today because I and many believers believe the Rapture occurs before the Tribulation period. Most of the horrific times predicted in Revelation and Daniel occur after the Church has been "taken up". Just my beliefs. If its any consolation I don't like this Pope.

I also agree that the church will be raptured before the tribulation and I have a feeling that's Steve's belief as well. The things he mentioned will definitely take place and I personally believe that all that is happening in the here and now is hastening the return of the Lord. And you have to agree that our nation has turned it's back on God and we are definitely on a downward spiral. I'm "looking up! For my redemption draweth nigh"

PZG1225 Loc: Florida

Steve700 wrote:

Many Christians are not sure about the rapture and... (show quote)

Steve, I would have bet the farm that you believed in the Pre-tribulation rapture. I know that's been a huge controversial topic among Biblical scholars. There are soo many verses of scripture that leave little doubt, but whatever one's opinion, it's certainly not a criteria for salvation. As you know. BTW, none of us are worthy of His grace Steve.

PZG1225 Loc: Florida

JFlorio wrote:

Also, It will get very nasty in the world before the Rapture. Many who study prophesy agree, the US must become weak and secular before anu one world ruler could begin.

So true Jim. And we're headed there at a rapid pace.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

Steve700 wrote:

Many Christians are not sure about the rapture and... (show quote)

Steve, pre-tribulation rapture is the only position that does not conflict with Scripture.
As for being worthy of going in the rapture, I believe just as salvation, non are worthy but through grace are we saved, and by grace are we raptured. Keep the oil for the lamps ready......

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

jack sequim wa wrote:

Steve, pre-tribulation rapture is the only position that does not conflict with Scripture.
As for being worthy of going in the rapture, I believe just as salvation, non are worthy but through grace are we saved, and by grace are we raptured. Keep the oil for the lamps ready......

Exactly. Grace is receiving something you can't earn. My pastor said a good one the other night. Religion is man's way to try to get to God and Jesus is Gods way to get to man.

Steve700

jack sequim wa wrote:

Steve, pre-tribulation rapture is the only position that does not conflict with Scripture.
As for being worthy of going in the rapture, I believe just as salvation, non are worthy but through grace are we saved, and by grace are we raptured. Keep the oil for the lamps ready......

JFlorio wrote:

Exactly. Grace is receiving something you can't earn. My pastor said a good one the other night. Religion is man's way to try to get to God and Jesus is Gods way to get to man.

The rapture is one thing I am not that well versed on or have taken time to study, but I've heard varying opinions as to just when that will happen or if it will happen at all. It sounds pretty far out being taken up in the air and all and frankly sounds kind of scary as I'm afraid of heights. I understand the not being worthy and being saved by grace part, but I still believe that being of good character and doing good works is essential because it's part of repentance and is the evidence of you having been saved by having Jesus being reflected in your life. It seems obvious to me that not all Christians are going to be raptured since we know that multitudes of them are going to be beheaded for refusing to take the Satanic oath of allegiance to the antichrist, his government and the coming one world religion. I don't expect to be in that privileged group.