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Florida: UPDATED : Sarasota City Commissioners do not know what a military weapon is!!
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Jun 17, 2016 10:57:38   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
Florida: UPDATED: Sarasota City Commissioners want military grade-high capacity magazine assault weapons ban .

Florida: UPDATED II: Sarasota City Commissioners do not know what a military weapon is!!

Clearly, the Commission doesn't even recognize what they don't know. I guarantee you they don't have a clue what their contrived term "military grade-high capacity assault weapons" even means because I don't know what it means and neither will anyone else. It's an open door to ban any guns they choose. The Second Amendment doesn't say rifles or shotguns or handguns. It says ARMS. YOU get to choose what you want, what you can afford, and what fits you best.
And make no mistake, the Second Amendment is NOT about hunting. NEVER, at any time in our history, has it ever been about hunting.
It is and always has been about protection from tyranny. It is and always has been about protecting your right to defend yourself and your freedom.
The 2nd Amendment DOESN'T say the NEED to keep and bear arms – it says the RIGHT to keep and bear arms.

Why do you NEED an AR-15 semiautomatic rifle instead of single shot bolt action rifle?
Well, why do you need a car instead of a bicycle? Or why do you need a car with an automatic transmission instead of a stick shift?
How many of you came here today on bicycles or in cars with stick shifts? You are making your own choices gun owners want to make theirs.
All semiautomatic firearms, are functionally IDENTICAL. It is the same technology that has been used for over 130 years.
You can take the gun the mechanism out of a beautiful, traditional, magnificent grain, shiny wood stock and put it in an ugly black, plastic, adjustable stock, with a pistol grip, and a barrel shroud and it fires exactly the same. The only difference is the way it looks.
That is no different from a lady in an elegant dress, nylon stockings, Christian Louboutin high heel shoes and some expensive jewelry changing clothes into blue jeans, a sweat shirt, Nike's and a Timex watch. The only difference is the way she looks.
You might take that expensive gun in the traditional wood stock to a gun show to show it off but you don't want to take it to the woods hunting on a cool wet rainy day.
And you might take that elegantly dressed lady to dinner at a fancy restaurant, but you don't want to make her clean her house and scrub toilets dressed like that.

You have been willfully and intentionally deceived on the assault weapons issue.
Let talk for a moment about High Capacity Magazines when you're out in the driveway working on your car, do you leave your toolbox in the garage so that every time you need another tool you have to get up and walk back into the garage to get it? Of course not! If you're smart you take the toolbox with you so it's there if you need another tool.
That's no different from trying to protect yourself while keeping your ammunition in your pocket so you have to dig it out and load a cartridge every time you need one. You want your ammunition where you need it. Modern technology makes that possible. There is nothing bad about that.
Would you rather have a car with stick shift and a 5 gallon gas tank? Or one with an automatic transmission and a 20 gallon gas tank?

The kind of car you drive doesn't mean you're going to use it to commit a crime.
It doesn't mean you're going to use it for a getaway car to rob a bank. And just because your speedometer registers up to 120 miles per hour doesn't mean you're ever going to go that fast.
What legitimate reason could anyone have to deprive law-abiding people of property they have every right to own?

Why pretend that taking YOUR guns will keep them out of the hands of criminals? You know it doesn't work that way.
Banning guns because of the way they look is political eyewash. It's nothing less than an attempt to make it look like they're doing something when they know they're not.
There is no such thing as an assault weapon.' There are assault people.' No gun ever walked into any place and started pulling it's own trigger and changing it's own magazines. Only terrorists and other evil people do that." But I guess we will never make the LEFT understand that.

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Jun 17, 2016 11:12:16   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
Well put !!! Oh ,, the left understands exactly what they want , our FREEDOM ,, not on my watch , and only after a firefight and my death !!!!!

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Jun 17, 2016 11:43:57   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
reconreb wrote:
Well put !!! Oh ,, the left understands exactly what they want , our FREEDOM ,, not on my watch , and only after a firefight and my death !!!!!


Just how is one threat of use of a firefight going to be treated?

Sounds just like a another angry person.

I would say that when the FBI is going to look at threats they may just follow up on yours.

I am a US citizen & am a Liberal on the left.

I have stated many times on this forum that I am not seeking to take your guns from you.

Please stop threating me.

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Jun 17, 2016 13:33:20   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Just how is one threat of use of a firefight going to be treated?

Sounds just like a another angry person.

I would say that when the FBI is going to look at threats they may just follow up on yours.

I am a US citizen & am a Liberal on the left.

I have stated many times on this forum that I am not seeking to take your guns from you.

Please stop threating me.


Then please tell your Leftist brethren to stop trying to take them.

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Jun 17, 2016 15:48:59   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
Then please tell your Leftist brethren to stop trying to take them.


Be sure to keep telling your friends that have guns how you feel it is okay for them to meter out their justice against the likes of me..

It is treason for some one to say that they will pick up arms & use them against other law abiding citizens who don't see the issues as they do.

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Jun 18, 2016 09:28:32   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Just how is one threat of use of a firefight going to be treated?

Sounds just like a another angry person.

I would say that when the FBI is going to look at threats they may just follow up on yours.

I am a US citizen & am a Liberal on the left.

I have stated many times on this forum that I am not seeking to take your guns from you.

Please stop threating me.




If the left try to destroy the 2nd amendment do you think red blooded Americans will just stand by? I do not see anyone threating you.

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Jun 18, 2016 12:12:54   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
cold iron wrote:
If the left try to destroy the 2nd amendment do you think red blooded Americans will just stand by? I do not see anyone threating you.


Just some general thoughts on this Issue:

First I am just as RED BLOODED AMERICAN as the next person.

There have been statements to that effect that I may not be so on this Forum.

Most people think that it is a personal right to have guns but it is not.

It is about having a State Militia.

If we will end up cleaning up this issue it will be a about returning the Nation Guards back to the states. Then who has or can purchase guns will be under the National Guards control.

If you have guns now at first there would be no big effort to have a blanket taking away of most guns. But there are many weapons that do not belong in the hands of the General Public

As much as I don't see eye to with you I see no problem with you having personal weapons or being a member of a State Militia with well set rules an no political control.

It would be Important that the control & Actions of each state will not be under direct control of the President or Congress

Control & the actions of each States Militia will be limited to that State only.

There would need to be guide lines set on a National level by the States agreeing on general issues.

I would like to think that many Guard Members would have had Active Military Service.

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Jun 18, 2016 13:54:55   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Be sure to keep telling your friends that have guns how you feel it is okay for them to meter out their justice against the likes of me..

It is treason for some one to say that they will pick up arms & use them against other law abiding citizens who don't see the issues as they do.


It may be illegal but it certainly isn't treasonous. I haven't seen anyone threatening you because you are a leftist idiot.

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Jun 18, 2016 13:56:54   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Just some general thoughts on this Issue:

First I am just as RED BLOODED AMERICAN as the next person.

There have been statements to that effect that I may not be so on this Forum.

Most people think that it is a personal right to have guns but it is not.

It is about having a State Militia.

If we will end up cleaning up this issue it will be a about returning the Nation Guards back to the states. Then who has or can purchase guns will be under the National Guards control.

If you have guns now at first there would be no big effort to have a blanket taking away of most guns. But there are many weapons that do not belong in the hands of the General Public

As much as I don't see eye to with you I see no problem with you having personal weapons or being a member of a State Militia with well set rules an no political control.

It would be Important that the control & Actions of each state will not be under direct control of the President or Congress

Control & the actions of each States Militia will be limited to that State only.

There would need to be guide lines set on a National level by the States agreeing on general issues.

I would like to think that many Guard Members would have had Active Military Service.
Just some general thoughts on this Issue: br br F... (show quote)


Just curious. Where did you learn English?

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Jun 18, 2016 14:04:31   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
Just curious. Where did you learn English?


Please point out just why you ask that.

I am sorry that the words & the way I used them seem meaningless to you.

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Jun 18, 2016 15:11:26   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Please point out just why you ask that.

I am sorry that the words & the way I used them seem meaningless to you.


You have a distinctly different way of using English than people born in the United States do.

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Jun 18, 2016 18:23:56   #
Zombiefarmer23 Loc: Bull Hills
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Just some general thoughts on this Issue:

First I am just as RED BLOODED AMERICAN as the next person.

There have been statements to that effect that I may not be so on this Forum.

Most people think that it is a personal right to have guns but it is not.

It is about having a State Militia.

If we will end up cleaning up this issue it will be a about returning the Nation Guards back to the states. Then who has or can purchase guns will be under the National Guards control.

If you have guns now at first there would be no big effort to have a blanket taking away of most guns. But there are many weapons that do not belong in the hands of the General Public

As much as I don't see eye to with you I see no problem with you having personal weapons or being a member of a State Militia with well set rules an no political control.

It would be Important that the control & Actions of each state will not be under direct control of the President or Congress

Control & the actions of each States Militia will be limited to that State only.

There would need to be guide lines set on a National level by the States agreeing on general issues.

I would like to think that many Guard Members would have had Active Military Service.
Just some general thoughts on this Issue: br br F... (show quote)


Dipshit moron!!

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Jun 18, 2016 18:41:18   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Zombiefarmer23 wrote:
Dipshit moron!!


I am still curious as to where he learned his English. I sincerely doubt it was in the USA.

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Jun 18, 2016 21:30:54   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
You have a distinctly different way of using English than people born in the United States do.


Well old man the World is passing Us both by.

I am just putting my thoughts down for what ever they are worth.

Time will tell which of Us has the better grasp of what is going on & what changes should be made to make things better.

I think that you will go to your grave & never know what really is going on & why.

Me I will just be going to my grave that I have already picked out.

In the mean time I would like to think that I have a better grasp of what is going on & steps needed to be taken.

In the twilight of our life we should take stock in what we are & for better or worse share our thoughts with others.

In the World I see there is even room for a mixed up old coot like you. One who if he would be true to him self would have much to add to the question of where are we & why are we there.

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Jun 18, 2016 21:41:46   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Well old man the World is passing Us both by.

I am just putting my thoughts down for what ever they are worth.

Time will tell which of Us has the better grasp of what is going on & what changes should be made to make things better.

I think that you will go to your grave & never know what really is going on & why.

Me I will just be going to my grave that I have already picked out.

In the mean time I would like to think that I have a better grasp of what is going on & steps needed to be taken.

In the twilight of our life we should take stock in what we are & for better or worse share our thoughts with others.

In the World I see there is even room for a mixed up old coot like you. One who if he would be true to him self would have much to add to the question of where are we & why are we there.
Well old man the World is passing Us both by. br ... (show quote)


My sincerest and very best wishes to you. Be happy in your naivete.

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