Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

Neither Trump of Clinton will slow down the grasp for control into fewer & fewer hands.

The Few have no interest in slowing down the gathering of more control.

This greed will only lead to the failing of this great Nation.

Just how far back in time do those that want to take us back to?

It may well be to late for most of Us to retain what little we have been able to attain.

If we are to go back then I say we go back to the days without the Money Changers.

Those were the days of greatest personal freedoms.

We need not go back that far & we can regain freedoms if we can lessen the impact of the money changers.

Just easing how much wealth is suck out of the main stream of the system would set Us back on truly being the Great Nation we were.

For if this nation dies the will be little wealth for any one.

Only those that can live with the least will be left.

So if you wish this Nation to protect you & your way of life you need to support what others have & need.

It is time to see that 90% or more of Us are in this fight for our personal well being.

Do we make small changes or will there be mass failure.

Some of Us l have to do with less now & more each day will have to do with less as the system.

Our personal security & well being depends greatly on the security & well being of those around Us.

MarvinSussman

Exactly what are your recommended actions to take?

PeterS

A way back machine...

MarvinSussman

America was never great for everybody. Natives, Blacks, immigrants with the wrong religion, etc. It was brutal and nasty and short for many.

bilordinary Loc: SW Washington

That's why we have the word majority, let's at least make it good for them again. I know it doesn't appeal to the emotional, but it's logical.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

There are basically two sides to this issue.

You need not be on this site very long to see that there is a deep & counter productive debate going on.

There are some I would like to think like you & I do on a bit better way to understand the issues.

To me it has become clear that there are those that would rather let the things that are going wrong continue rather that give thoughts of others a chance to be heard.

MarvinSussman

When all else fails, find another FDR who will convince those who listen that we have nothing to fear but fear itself.

We have all the physical resources we need to survive and even thrive. We need only marshal those resources to produce our needs. We need only include in those resources all who can produce or who can be trained to produce our needs. We need only distribute those needs fairly.

We must stop listening to the Nay-Sayers who ask: "Where will the money come from? How can we pay for it? The only source of money is my wallet and I have so little in my wallet!"

When Pearl Harbor was bombed, FDR marshaled our physical resources to produce our needs. He included in those resources all who could produce or who could be trained to produce our needs. Ask any old German or Japanese what we did with what we produced!

FDR did not wonder where money comes from or how to pay for the war. With an 18% unemployment rate, our wallets were empty. With typewriters, the Fed wrote checks and bought Treasury bonds. With Fed money, Treasury checks paid industry to produce our needs. Industry checks paid the workers and soldiers. Because nothing was available for sale, everybody bought the Treasury's "War Bonds".

At peace, they cashed in their bonds for cars and homes, finally getting the prosperity that enough government spending could have given them a decade earlier, when Hitler’s spending gave Germans prosperity and made him popular and powerful.

It is not our wallets but Congressional spending that gave us electrified farms, transistors, integrated circuits, computers, the internet, robots, jet planes, rocket ships, solar and wind energy, LCD and touch-screens, the mouse, SIRI, search algorithms, GPS, genomics, nanotechnology, and our pharmaceutical industry!

Our GDP grows approximately $2 for each Congressional $1 that is spent again and again until it is either taxed, saved, or exported. Our Debt/GDP ratio dropped from 120% in 1944 to 30% during 35 prosperous years due to moderate inflation and heavy spending on veteran housing and education, the Marshall Plan, nuclear energy, Korea, Cold War rearmament, the Interstate Highway, Man-on-the-Moon, Vietnam, and more.

Taxpayers do not provide money for Congress to spend! It is Congress’ spending that provides money for tax payments. Proof? If the IRS stopped taxing, Congress could continue spending until harmful inflation ensued but if Congress stopped all spending, deflation would stop tax collection.

bilordinary Loc: SW Washington

It just depends where in the circle jerk you're viewing things from!

MarvinSussman

You can't handle facts and logic but you know vulgarity. Congratulations on your improvement since grammar school.

bilordinary Loc: SW Washington

bilordinary Loc: SW Washington

Excuse me I thought it was two words.

https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/n4nni/eli5_the_meaning_of_circlejerk_as_in_rcirclejerk/

Gatsby

I, along with two thirds of the American people, think that the country is headed in the wrong direction.

Hillary's path forward says nothing about changing directions.

Bernie's vision for America is more of the same, free stuff for everyone, citizen or not.

Trump's vision is to change direction while, and where, we still can, and to hell with PC!

What other presidential candidate would dare utter the words, "I think it should be left to the states"?
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The longest journey still begins with the first step; be it faltering, timed, or even a mis-step:

The journey can not begin until that first step (in changing the direction of the nation), is taken.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Panic? Run around in tight circles in our brains?

I'm with you on this one...that post didn't leave much room for improvement.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

"Sherman! We have to go back in time and assassinate __________!"

MarvinSussman

What we have here is a failure to communicate, on at least two levels.

Communication requires clarity: stating exactly the differences and agreements. Are meanings not clear?

Don't be bashful. Be brave! Take a stand! Carpe diem!