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Apr 19, 2016 09:41:39   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
There is too much of a divide between those of Us on what is really wrong with our system.

Which is not good as the problems affect Us all pretty much the same.

We are in the boat together & each of Us is rowing against the other one & we are never going to get any where that way.

It may be better if we just stopped rowing for a while & came up with a game plan that had a chance to work.

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Apr 19, 2016 09:55:36   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
There is too much of a divide between those of Us on what is really wrong with our system.

Which is not good as the problems affect Us all pretty much the same.

We are in the boat together & each of Us is rowing against the other one & we are never going to get any where that way.

It may be better if we just stopped rowing for a while & came up with a game plan that had a chance to work.


Each "side" of an issue, any and every issue, panders to our self interests - and we pick a side, depending on where we believe our self interests lie - and stick to it out of fear and confusion. Clarity is anathema to manipulation - so clarity is studiously avoided.

There is little money to be made through unity, but enormous amounts made through disunity, confusion, conflict and turmoil. Now you know why we are discouraged from trying to "get together".

" there is no profit in peace, therefor - let there be war ". I will leave it up to the reader to discover who this quote is from. :D

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Apr 19, 2016 10:50:45   #
marjorie kinne
 
floyedbrown We have thrown out our core values that made us a great nation. When we bring back these values, one nation under GOOD, trust in GOD, so help me GOD, God bless America, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. These are what made these UNITED STATES OF AMERICA a nation to have values.

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Apr 19, 2016 11:19:26   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Each "side" of an issue, any and every issue, panders to our self interests - and we pick a side, depending on where we believe our self interests lie - and stick to it out of fear and confusion. Clarity is anathema to manipulation - so clarity is studiously avoided.

There is little money to be made through unity, but enormous amounts made through disunity, confusion, conflict and turmoil. Now you know why we are discouraged from trying to "get together".

" there is no profit in peace, therefor - let there be war ". I will leave it up to the reader to discover who this quote is from. :D
Each "side" of an issue, any and every i... (show quote)


There has been many setbacks on our getting to this time in History.

It is only through Unity that we have gotten to this point in History.

We are a work in progress & there is much more progress needed.

We are at a point in time where we can make great strides to spend our Unity wisely & make a great gain in gaining our Destiney.

At this time as never before in History have we the means to deal with each other Peacefully.

All of Us like those of Us on this Forum need to put aside our personal interests in searching for matters that affect Us jointly. For only then will our Personal Interests be safe.

It is only in the safety of each of Us that any of Us can be safe.

It is only in our likenesses that we can enjoy our differences.

It is only in protecting others Personal Interests can our personal interest be protected.

That's how rules & laws come about,

UNITY is gained by putting aside some Personal Interests
In the best interest of others.

Influence others yes. By granting others the space to live with you.

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Apr 19, 2016 11:43:38   #
marjorie kinne
 
ipnmajor As to thinking things through one gets knowledge, understanding then wisdom Gather knowledge, facts, etc. 2 things to determine are they truthful or lies. Then as to understanding another 2 things are they good or bad. Then comes wisdom. That's just one. Its the GOD ALMIGHTY. His HOLY WORD. This is where those who aren't in the CHRISTIAN FAITH will have a time of thinking that through.

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Apr 19, 2016 16:45:34   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
There has been many setbacks on our getting to this time in History.

It is only through Unity that we have gotten to this point in History.

We are a work in progress & there is much more progress needed.

We are at a point in time where we can make great strides to spend our Unity wisely & make a great gain in gaining our Destiney.

At this time as never before in History have we the means to deal with each other Peacefully.

All of Us like those of Us on this Forum need to put aside our personal interests in searching for matters that affect Us jointly. For only then will our Personal Interests be safe.

It is only in the safety of each of Us that any of Us can be safe.

It is only in our likenesses that we can enjoy our differences.

It is only in protecting others Personal Interests can our personal interest be protected.

That's how rules & laws come about,

UNITY is gained by putting aside some Personal Interests
In the best interest of others.

Influence others yes. By granting others the space to live with you.
There has been many setbacks on our getting to thi... (show quote)


The United States of America was once the greatest Nation on Earth - then we decided to retire and rest on our laurels.

We no longer do the hard work that MADE us a great Nation, preferring to demand that others bow to us, wearing the crown of past glories.

We each demand our rights be granted to us at birth - and contribute nothing in return - while complaining about what little is required of us as citizens.

Were it up to me, all citizens would be required to give military service for 2 years after High School. No deferments, no buying out of this obligation and no exemptions. Both the young citizen and the whole country would benefit immensely, by producing young people with a better knowledge of their country, their rights AND their obligations, as well as a better understanding of themselves and where their career paths lie.

I would also reinstitute the Civilian Construction Corp, to rebuild America's infrastructure and ensure that no able bodied American lacked for a job. We can never go wrong reinvesting in ourselves and our citizenry.

But - that's just me.

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Apr 19, 2016 17:47:41   #
marjorie kinne
 
floydbrown We will get our nation back together when the so called republican & democratic parties leadership stick to primary voting by all registered voters as its we the people that will determine we remain a nation under GOD.

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Apr 20, 2016 10:00:27   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
lpnmajor wrote:
The United States of America was once the greatest Nation on Earth - then we decided to retire and rest on our laurels.

We no longer do the hard work that MADE us a great Nation, preferring to demand that others bow to us, wearing the crown of past glories.

We each demand our rights be granted to us at birth - and contribute nothing in return - while complaining about what little is required of us as citizens.

Were it up to me, all citizens would be required to give military service for 2 years after High School. No deferments, no buying out of this obligation and no exemptions. Both the young citizen and the whole country would benefit immensely, by producing young people with a better knowledge of their country, their rights AND their obligations, as well as a better understanding of themselves and where their career paths lie.

I would also reinstitute the Civilian Construction Corp, to rebuild America's infrastructure and ensure that no able bodied American lacked for a job. We can never go wrong reinvesting in ourselves and our citizenry.

But - that's just me.
The United States of America was once the greatest... (show quote)


There may not be many but you are not alone.

The draft wasn't a bad thing to me. I did tell the motor pool sergeant what he could to with the sections truck when he asked me to pull motor stables after he let another section use it. When my officer hear the news He just said that they were just to leave his boy alone. End of story.

Being in S-1 we used the the truck maybe twice a year on field movements. I was to pull motor stables every day.

When promotions were due I was always promoted.

I handle payrolls for enlisted men. What a mess some of them had.

My grandfather was in the WPA for awhile.

Thanks for jogging my memory.

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Apr 20, 2016 11:05:41   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Each "side" of an issue, any and every issue, panders to our self interests - and we pick a side, depending on where we believe our self interests lie - and stick to it out of fear and confusion. Clarity is anathema to manipulation - so clarity is studiously avoided.

There is little money to be made through unity, but enormous amounts made through disunity, confusion, conflict and turmoil. Now you know why we are discouraged from trying to "get together".

" there is no profit in peace, therefor - let there be war ". I will leave it up to the reader to discover who this quote is from. :D
Each "side" of an issue, any and every i... (show quote)


You get at the root of it in which NO ONE is talking about- that corruption is not an inconvenient characteristic of the system- it IS the system. A socioeconomic model that thrives on endless waste and cyclical-consumption, perpetual warfare, resource-depletion and the fairytale of "infinite growth" can never be stable for the majority of people. Nor was it ever meant to be.

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Apr 20, 2016 11:09:45   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
marjorie kinne wrote:
ipnmajor As to thinking things through one gets knowledge, understanding then wisdom Gather knowledge, facts, etc. 2 things to determine are they truthful or lies. Then as to understanding another 2 things are they good or bad. Then comes wisdom. That's just one. Its the GOD ALMIGHTY. His HOLY WORD. This is where those who aren't in the CHRISTIAN FAITH will have a time of thinking that through.


We are not a theocracy, nor should we be. A person need not necessarily be of Christian-faith in order to be good and contribute to society in a positive way. We would be better-served trying to find the common-thread that runs through all belief-systems that focus on the positive.

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Apr 20, 2016 12:23:03   #
marjorie kinne
 
janthony Follow the "New World Order" There you will see what goes on in America and its taking place step by step. My positive is the BELIVERS IN CHRIST Jesus will be taken out of this and be ever more with my SAVIOUR CHRIST JESUSU in HEAVEN.

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Apr 20, 2016 18:09:04   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
marjorie kinne wrote:
floyedbrown We have thrown out our core values that made us a great nation. When we bring back these values, one nation under GOOD, trust in GOD, so help me GOD, God bless America, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. These are what made these UNITED STATES OF AMERICA a nation to have values.







The current "Marx/Alinsky," secular liberal progressive administration is now in the process of; "using America's free-market Western culture AGAINST itself, to usher in Islam" [Valerie Jarrett/un-vetted Senior Presidential Advisor, "devout" Shiite Muslim [communist?] from Iran. Hummmmmmm. GOD is in the process of being thrown off the planet to be replaced by Allah, and America is being rapidly, quietly and deceptively invaded by other un-vetted [undocumented], Jihad "refugee/terrorists," from war-torn Muslim countries [from primarily the Middle East], to continue their "obligated" quest for total world domination over any and ALL "infidels," [non-Muslims], for captivity, enslavement, rape, torture and/or decapitation; or all of the above. Talk about a "pursuit of happiness;" although it's hard to see their smiling faces under all those 5th century Sharia Burka's and masks. Hummmmmmmmm. FAT CHANCE!!!

The Judeo-Christian religion is the most prolific faith on earth today, and being propelled by TBN [Trinity Broadcasting Network] to every corner of the world, in every language. It's quite easy to see why barbaric 5th century radical Islam HAS to keep ALL Islamic peoples from "assimilating" into ANY culture but Islam; and even with the constant "Wahabi" indoctrinations and obligated consistent study of the 5th century Qur'an and Sharia law, many, many Muslims are turning to Jesus, even with the "Apostate" threat of barbaric torture and eventual death to the offending Muslims. Judeo-Christianity is now the fastest growing culture and religion in the dark shadows of Iran and China and North Korea and Russia, Etc., and Jesus Christ is now alerting the entire planet earth to His "Second Coming."

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Apr 20, 2016 18:13:54   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
There is too much of a divide between those of Us on what is really wrong with our system.

Which is not good as the problems affect Us all pretty much the same.

We are in the boat together & each of Us is rowing against the other one & we are never going to get any where that way.

It may be better if we just stopped rowing for a while & came up with a game plan that had a chance to work.


I have a game plan. The MAJORITY of DEMOCRATS commit suicide so we don't have to feed, cloth, nor put up with their being on welfare....such a glorious day when we rid them from being in the USA!

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Apr 20, 2016 18:38:29   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
America Only wrote:
I have a game plan. The MAJORITY of DEMOCRATS commit suicide so we don't have to feed, cloth, nor put up with their being on welfare....such a glorious day when we rid them from being in the USA!









The recent connection and merger of the [CPUSA, SPUSA], "infidel" OWS, [SDS, Weather Underground Jr.], with the MB, CAIR, ISIS and the MSA, etc., AO, seems to be having exactly the effect you mentioned. The "parade" now seems to be eating each-other, with "gusto." Hummmmmmm. Who in the WORLD saw THAT coming???

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Apr 20, 2016 19:17:28   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
lpnmajor wrote:
The United States of America was once the greatest Nation on Earth - then we decided to retire and rest on our laurels.

We no longer do the hard work that MADE us a great Nation, preferring to demand that others bow to us, wearing the crown of past glories.

We each demand our rights be granted to us at birth - and contribute nothing in return - while complaining about what little is required of us as citizens.

Were it up to me, all citizens would be required to give military service for 2 years after High School. No deferments, no buying out of this obligation and no exemptions. Both the young citizen and the whole country would benefit immensely, by producing young people with a better knowledge of their country, their rights AND their obligations, as well as a better understanding of themselves and where their career paths lie.

I would also reinstitute the Civilian Construction Corp, to rebuild America's infrastructure and ensure that no able bodied American lacked for a job. We can never go wrong reinvesting in ourselves and our citizenry.

But - that's just me.
The United States of America was once the greatest... (show quote)


The Civilian Construction Corp would be a great place to put able bodied men and women to work for the subsistence this government gives them for not working. This would be a way to have these people become independent of the government and also be a helping hand to achieve a place in a normal society and become self sufficient and believe in having the self confidence in the ability that God gave them.

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