Steve700

If you watched very much of Glenn Beck (liberals never do) you would have come to realize that he is absolutely correct and divulges a lot of information that should be common knowledge that nobody else is telling you. All the news medias including Fox are controlled & very limited in what they will tell you. Back was divulging too much and that's why they got rid of him. I understand your socialism & communism a hell a lot better that you understand conservatism. Both right and left are totally bought off and part of a paradigm that is designed to give you the idea that you have some kind of power & the same Satanic (yes they are actually Satanic, and it's provable) control both sides. Dennis Prager, Alex Jones, Mark Levine, Michael Savage, former leftist activist David Horowitz (as well as Glenn Beck} are the most aware, insightful & outspoken. Exactly the opposite of you who can only regurgitate Marxist propaganda ideas and philosophy. Like the rest of the liberals you mostly only talk to each other and are in a real bubble. Truly living in the opposite land of stupidity. For example you people have absolutely no understanding of Islam and get your information about Islam from Muslems when part of Islamic theology known as Taqiyya is to lie to you about the true nature of Islam which like Nazi-ism, is a supremacist ideology just like Nazi-ism. If you were a Jew just before World War II started, you would have been asking the Nazis to explain Nazi-ism to you, expecting to hear the truth. That's how dumb the liberals are. And that's no exaggeration. You are all dumb to the core. Conservatism is not the party of the rich, it is the party low information & Democrats are of the party of low information & "feeling". You think I don't know about socialism? Well here is a video from a few years ago with an X Russian KBG agent whose specialty was utilizing subversive Marxism to overthrow US democracy and capitalism. I would suggest you take 10 minutes out of your life and see this video that will give you more understanding about how these things work that you have gained in the last five years. Don't double down on stupid. Like David Horowitz, he was a decent man that finally discovered the evil of his ideology. Realize socialism is a necessary step to communism. Check it out; he explains how it all works. Trust me, it's something you need to know & and you won't think that you have wasted your time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Iz3VjoHXLA&nohtml5=False After you see all of the under 10 minutes of it, let me know what you think.

PeterS

Steve, conservatism isn't a party. It is a political ideology. And if you aren't a conservative or a liberal than just what are you? Cuz the last I checked you could only be one or the other or both if you are libertarian. Now you don't sound like a libertarian to me but you do sound very much like a conservative. If that is true than the political philosophy you base your ideology on is irrationalism which is:

a system emphasizing intuition, instinct, feeling, or faith rather than reason or holding that the universe is governed by irrational supernatural forces opposed to the rational forces of nature.

And before you say it doesn't describe you read it again--instinct, intuition, feeling, and faith, are used to describe the world to you which explains to a tee how you arrived at your world picture. And I've heard how you talk of god so we know that you believe that the universe is governed by him.

Your problem Steve is that you live in a world of Affirmation over Confirmation. The people you admire tell you what to think and your peeps reaffirm your beliefs with back slaps and attaboys but never factual confirmation. You than run around telling everyone who disagrees with you what idiots they are instead of actually proving they are wrong. You can't do that because you don't know how to prove someone wrong other than through denigration and condemnation--which aren't very good tools at proving people wrong. Just like after prodding me to ANSWER your questions you would unable to reply with anything substantive after I did.

You see Steve, instead of having people tell me what to think and other people telling me how right I am I can actually research on my own and arrive at the real truth not someone else's version of it. Steve I'm not going to denigrate you, mock you, or otherwise run you down. You are a conservative--not from you admissions but from how you act and display yourself to others. You can disagree if you like but the only one you would be lying to is yourself...

MarvinSussman

If you knew anything about Marx, you would know that he believed that Russia would be the last place on earth to be socialist. In his view of history, the numerically superior working class of the advanced capitalist nations, like Britain and Germany, would eventually become class conscious and take power, legally,if possible. The idea that a couple of dozen Jews would take command of the most anti-Semitic, agricultural nation on Earth and try to install socialism surrounded by advanced capitalist nations sending in armies to stop it would never occur to him.

It is a wonder of wonders that the USSR succeeded in only ten years in developing an industry capable of fighting and winning WW II, much to my relief. Without the prewar threats from Germany, WW II, and the Cold War driving Stalin into paranoia, who knows what could have developed.

Marx could not see the future but that does not invalidate his views. When MacDonald's is run by robots and unemployment hits 90% and you line up for your water ration while the 1% of the 1% are sunning themselves in the tropics, you may reconsider socialism when the Tea Party demands it.

Oakisland4U

Most Liberals are not with Chridtian Values of the USA . They want tear down what Christian values was set up over 200 yrs ago .

Steve700

It doesn't matter what Marx thought about the likelihood of Russia accepting his ideas. For Lenin and Stalin Marxism was about being a means to obtain power, which is the very reason why he called the people of the population who wanted to assist him in bringing about a Marxist revolution, "Useful Idiots". And you liberals always discount the lessons of history regarding what Marxism brings about. Since it's all about control it's claim to fairness & equality always, always, always turns into tyranny. (Because it's about control and groupthink by the populace.) By its very nature it crushes incentive and individual freedom. The very "Constitution" of the American Communist Workers Party has as its last sentence, that the opposition to them that "those who deviate from the party line must be crushed" in those exact, precise words. For some reason the useful idiots never seem to fully comprehend that part, thinking they can do it better, but as history proves it never, ever turns out that way and a communist revolution. Even Marx himself absolutely hated the capitalists who the believed to be an portrayed as monstrous oppressors that needed to be eliminated. So how can you say his views are not invalidated because Marx did not see the future. Yes perspective on the future is irrelevant, and the fact that you think that matters only betrays what I say that you liberals always think you can do it better but the whole idea behind Marxism is the ruthless elimination of not only the capitalists, but conservatives as well and Christians in particular, because the tenants of Christiandum are contrary to Marxist doctrine. Much more certainly could be said here but I don't want to get into a rant. The object of my reply that you are responding to the areas that I wanted you to take a measly 10 minutes here to see this video that makes clear the process of this very transformation that is the transformation that Obama has promised and that you think is good and approve of. The guys speaking in this video is an ex-KGB agent specializing in subversion. He was a master at understanding how it all works and explains it to you in this video. For God's sake take 10 measly minutes out of your life and watch it. The understanding is invaluable. You're not going to think that you have wasted your time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Iz3VjoHXLA&nohtml5=False After you see all of the under 10 minutes of it, let me know what you think.[/quote]

MarvinSussman

Marx had nothing to do with Lenin or Stalin. The quote: "Useful Idiots" was not from Marx but from Lenin.

Just so you get it right once (although you will quickly forget it if it sinks in at all), Marx believe that socialism would eventually transform itself into communism, which would be a classless society with no central government based upon co-operative ownership of production enterprises by the workers in that enterprise. He believed there would be a minimal state, mostly fire departments and libraries, that would "wither away". With abundance, crime and punishment would cease, etc., etc.

Marx also believe that as science developed religion would be looked upon as we now look at Jupiter, Apollo, Cupid, etc.

All that has nothing to do with your ex-KGB agent, who has absolutely nothing to say that has not been said in a mountain of books going back to Arthur Koestler and Trotsky before him.

MarvinSussman

Please list the "Christian Values" that liberals want to tear down. For each "value"to be torn down by liberals, please provide quotes proving your allegation.

Oakisland4U

Ok : let's look at what the Liberals have done the last 7 years : the National Debt stood at Jan. 1, 2008 around $9.3 T now it's approaching $19.4 T, the real unemployment is at 22.4% not at 4.5% , got the idiot Obamacare pass and it has killed full time jobs big time , remember someone put in a clause saying 29.5 hrs work , Gay Marriages in all 50 states , The EPA which run by Liberals under Obama policies shutting down the coal industry , said NO to Keystone pipeline , but Duke Energy can build one cross 3 states .

Steve700

What do you know of truth when the lefties want God out of their lives. God stands for truth and reality &
you want to align yourself with the side that wants to rid the earth of God and His influence. And you want to talk about truth and judge me for my sources. My sources are on the side that believes in truth, honesty and having integrity. No one tells me what to think. I understood what the left was in my mid-20s when I had a seven bedroom house. I was renting the rooms to a bunch of hippies and we would be sitting around watching TV together & they would mock conservative newscaster George Putnam when he would get on a rant about how drugs and illegal aliens were destroying the country. I had a decent upbringing and it was obvious to me that he was right, but these degenerate fools would sit around smoking their marijuana and laughing at him, calling him a fool. That's all it took for me to see who had a brain in their head and was on the proper side (that which was moral) ---- Come out of opposite land, before you wind up in hell for eternity.

And I ain't kidding

Steve700

Removing Christian values(and Christians) from the earth, to be replaced with secular social engineering is absolutely the agenda for the New World order. Even a dumb liberal should know that because that's what you're trying to do already. You know they want to destroy the family; what do you think all this elevation of homosexuality to the level of decency as the family is all about? What do you think all this nudity, sexuality, and Satanism in popular secular music and culture is all about. They want you dumb down & the Christian morals removed so you will be easier to control. They have you using filthy Marxist tactics like political correctness that is a war on truth and a means of avoiding debate and feeling like you're coming out the winner by making false bull shit Accuzations. I don't care if you're a liberal, you know that that is exactly what's going on. So don't act all self righteous trying to make light the left deliberately isn't destroying the moral fabric of the country.

I don't care whether Lenin actually said this or not: it describes the leftist Marxist agenda perfectly & it amounts to deliberate distruction of the moral fabric of our country

Steve700

Lenin was the one who coined the term, but they both used it. I've never said it was from Marx, but Marxists are the ones who are called Useful Idiots. Jupiter Apollo Cupid and all those old time pagan religions are actually Satanic ends a part of and the basis for the occult and the secret societies today. It's obvious from what you say here that you are a total Marxists and are certain that good will come from news philosophy. The way crime is going to end or at least be slowed way down is under the pressure of a severe and brutal total control government, where the government spies on everybody and everything and the people are encouraged to spy and rat out each other. To key to the whole thing is that chip, that will indeed tremendously reduce crime and allow for open borders everywhere, because they can locate you anytime through the GPS system and your chip. There are many things that could be good about the New World order, but much of it goes against God & in fact since the whole thing is Satanicly inspired it is going to blow up in their face with at between one third to two thirds of the worlds population destroyed, often deliberately slaughtered as always happens in a communist take over, only this time it will be worldwide. This social engineering ain't going to work and it's going to take away everyone's liberty and freedom as well as making them live a lower standard of life for the sake of the environment.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Nice effort, Peter, but as I suspected...for naught. Steve700 is not interested in answers to his questions. He is only interested in acquiescence and adherence to his beliefs. Anyone not aligned with him is confronted with ridicule, personal attacks and yet more foolish and inconsequential blather. I liken him to a petulant child who hasn't been asked to go to his junior high prom, and strikes out from a sense of rejection. :roll: :|

MarvinSussman

The deficits have been due to low tax revenue due to the Bush Meltdown and Republican austerity budgets keeping consumer demand low to make Obama look bad. Discretionary spending under Obama is the lowest since Eisenhower.


Due to Republican austerity budgets.


Obama is a RINO. He got that from Romneycare, a Republican idea straight from the Heritage Foundation.


Mind your own damn business!


Good riddance!

MarvinSussman

For your own peace of mind, I would suggest working for communism rather than for Christianity. You won't see heaven while you are alive, but the hope for a classless society without a government and no crime because everybody has everything they want should pacify all your anxieties about Satan.

Oakisland4U

GREAT : well said. Liberals have taken God out of everything , mostly State and County offices around this country, because it offend different people which do not like God. Look at the new law in NC . The Liberals in NC and rest of the Liberals think the new law LGBT is bad.