Anigav6969

Back over 50%....not bad....higher than Reagan in his last year..


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/10/19/poll-obamas-approval-rating-hits-an-18-month-high-is-back-over-50-percent/

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obama-presidential-job-approval.aspx

Anigav6969

You should NEVER skip the meds SicilianHead.....you see what happens?

Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth

Sounds like the wop can't handle the truth, or much else in life!

Anigav6969

Reality seems very difficult for some here

Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth

For the conservatives that would be most!

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I wonder, did someone make phone calls to citizens and asked questions or was this internet driven. As of today, 32 million adults in the U.S. can't read. That's 14 percent of the population. 21 percent of adults in the U.S. read below a 5th grade level, and 19 percent of high school graduates can't read. And this excludes non-English speaking residents. Another factor, almost 49 percent of Americans are receiving government assistance.

So, sure... he is doing a great job! Just ask any of the illiterate citizens receiving government assistance. Now, then come to my neighborhood where the vast majority have a baccalaureate degree or higher and work for a living..... well, Obama would not do as well as the poll numbers show..

My point, polls are not really worth anything. It has too many dependencies... how the question is asked, to whom it is asked, and even the time of day. The first straw poll, Aru Pennsylvanian in 1824, was an unbiased poll and showed a good cross section of voters. But, in 1936 polls became more biased and easy to manipulate... as a reminder, the poll in 1936 showed Alf Landon as a shoe in as president out distancing Franklin Roosevelt by a country mile.

Bottom-line, do not get your nickers in a bunch over polls... they are only as good as those polled and by the person or company conducting the poll.

Anigav6969

51% kiddo...that's reality...you can ignore it....but thems the facts

Anigav6969

Polls are important and usually quite accurate.....what you're saying is what the people were saying when Obama was leading in the polls over Romney...." Ignore...nothing to see".....and polls are a politicians life blood....you don't have to believe these polls....that's convenient for you....but this will be remembered....things can always change though

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Actually, I was not even thinking about when Romney, I was looking at polling in general. A recent article in the NY Times agrees that polling is both inaccurate and not well structured. See: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/21/opinion/sunday/whats-the-matter-with-polling.html?_r=0

"Believe it or not, when conducted properly, public opinion polling is generally quite accurate. Conducting good survey research, however, is no simple task. To be accurate, the questions on a survey must be asked of a group of people--what pollsters call a sample--that is representative of the larger population. The questions themselves must also be good indicators of the opinions or attitudes the pollster is trying to measure and the questions must also be asked consistently from one person to the next. Pollsters generally worry about two sources of error in survey research: sampling error and non-sampling error.

The key to accurate measurement of public opinion is the ability of a researcher to select a sample of individuals that looks and acts like the larger population they come from in every important way. For example, a sample must have almost exactly the same proportions of men and women, blacks, whites and Hispanics, Democrats and Republicans and old and young people as the entire population. In practice, representative samples are best drawn by randomly selecting individuals from the population of interest. For example, if a pollster wants to know which candidate is likely to win an upcoming election, he or she randomly "samples" individuals from the population of all voters. (People who are not going to vote on election day, although eligible to vote, are not part of the actual voting population and should not be included in the sample.) Randomness is important because it removes any bias that might creep in by allowing the pollster to select people, unintentionally or not, on the basis of their race, sex, height, availability or any number of other criteria that would make the sample unlike the population from which it is drawn.

Simply identifying a random sample, however, does not alleviate all concerns about sampling error. Indeed, one of the more difficult aspects of sampling is actually getting the people selected to be in a sample to respond to the questions on a survey. If there is any degree of systematic refusal to answer questions, e.g. more women refuse to answer questions than men, the remaining individuals in the sample who cooperate with the pollster will not be representative of the population (there will be too many men in the sample) and the results will be invalid.

The difficulties of sampling notwithstanding, a survey researcher can, in fact, confidently and accurately generalize about the opinions and attitudes of large groups of individuals by selecting relatively small random samples of individuals from those larger groups and completing interviews with them."

http://www.thisnation.com/question/002.html

So again, polls are not the end all, if done right then they are a good indication...but, if done poorly.... you know what we used to say about programming.... garbage in, garbage out!

Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth

So in other words your statement your statement that none of the polls are accurate was false!

By the way the poll posted was taken by Gallup the most accurate of all!

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obama-presidential-job-approval.aspx

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Raylan,

Let me see if I can unravel your statement. Are you asking me if all polls are false? If so, I can not say definitively yes or no... it depends. A poll can be skewed by just one person asking a question from memory. It can be skewed by identifying the targets, it can be skewed by the weather. This is called the non-sampling error. However, if the poll is done right and all the targets are willing or able to respond, then it can be a very accurate tool.

Did you know that Gallop Poll is not the most accurate, or at least during the last three elections? They had an error rate of 7.2. Here is their projection for the last election. http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/18/gallup-vs-the-world/.. they were wrong. Was it the questions, how the questions were asked, or to whom they asked those questions? Did you know that internet polls are much more accurate? I think that we, as a nation, have moved on from phone interviews and people on the street with clip boards. The internet removes many of the non-sampling errors. http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/which-polls-fared-best-and-worst-in-the-2012-presidential-race/

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

WOP?? Now if that isnt the most racist thing i have ever heard on this Forum, seek some counseling for that racial issue.......Wonky :-D

meridianlesilie Loc: mars

I HOPE THAT TRUMP DOES GET ELECTED & GO AFTER OBAMA & HILTLARY & PROSECUTE THEM FOR ALL THEY DESERVE FOR BENGHAZI
& OBAMA CARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I HOPE THEY RUIN HIS LEGACY FOR HIM & SEND THEM TO JAIL WHERE THEY REALLY BELONG !!!!!!!!!!!

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Anigav6969

It's good to have hope

Anigav6969

Except...politics is based on polls....kinda like how FOX only allowed a certain number of candidates on the main debate stage....based on what ??......polls.....I guess the losing candidates could have really used you then....just say " polls are bogus...useless"
You can say or believe what you like.....the fact that the President's approval rating is back over 50, is a pretty big deal...most of the Country approve of the job he's doing....just not here on OFP