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Oct 14, 2013 11:01:31   #
VladimirPee
 
Its Dennis not Denise and you are preaching to the choir. I don't support this ACA disaster


Jean wrote:
Denise, I hate to bring bad news to someone like you so happy in your delusion. The opposition to Obamacare is growing, not deminishing. It wll grow ever faster as people learn more about it, it's cost, it's encroachment on our free will and the long wait for any medical service
The whole goal of this bill is population control and government enslavement. It provides for the government paid killing of thousands of pre-born infants and the neglect and slow death to those over age seventy.
People who are 70 or older are no longer people or patients. They are "Units." Units are not promised ANY care but are promised to be kept "comfortable".
Read the bill Denise, if you can spare the hours it takes, and if you can understand it I doubt you will be so eager to be enslaved, as Dr. Ben Carlson called it. You may also want to look up Dr. Carlson, and if you don't here is a thumb nail sketch. He is BLACK, and international well known Neurosurgeon who had the courage to speak the truth to Obama's face. His reward was an almost immediate audit by the IRS.
Now I ask you, don't we have a really really cute president? And that's a good thing since he is so totally lacking in accomplishments, talent or respect for our Constitutional form of government.
Denise, I hate to bring bad news to someone like y... (show quote)

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Oct 14, 2013 11:11:10   #
VladimirPee
 
The Washington Post’s Ezra Klein, an Obamacare supporter, slammed the launch of the program’s online exchanges the the wake of widespread reports of stalled and dysfunctional websites. Klein warned that, given the websites’ ongoing problems, there may be “deeper, more systemic problems.”

“We’re a couple of weeks in and people can’t sign up, people have tried 20, 30, 40 times,” Klein said on Morning Joe on Monday. “It’s one thing for that to be true the first three or four days, it’s another thing for it to be true two or three weeks in.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI0N1Epo-1c

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Oct 14, 2013 11:27:49   #
VladimirPee
 
I can see I am dealing with an illiterate here. I have NOT POSTED ANY PRO OBAMACARE postings. Have you read actually read anything Jean?>


Jean wrote:
Dennis, I hate to bring bad news to someone like you so happy in your delusion. The opposition to Obamacare is growing, not deminishing. It wll grow ever faster as people learn more about it, it's cost, it's encroachment on our free will and the long wait for any medical service
The whole goal of this bill is population control and government enslavement. It provides for the government paid killing of thousands of pre-born infants and the neglect and slow death to those over age seventy.
People who are 70 or older are no longer people or patients. They are "Units." Units are not promised ANY care but are promised to be kept "comfortable".
Read the bill Denise, if you can spare the hours it takes, and if you can understand it I doubt you will be so eager to be enslaved, as Dr. Ben Carlson called it. You may also want to look up Dr. Carlson, and if you don't here is a thumb nail sketch. He is BLACK, and international well known Neurosurgeon who had the courage to speak the truth to Obama's face. His reward was an almost immediate audit by the IRS.
Now I ask you, don't we have a really really cute president? And that's a good thing since he is so totally lacking in accomplishments, talent or respect for our Constitutional form of government.
Dennis, I hate to bring bad news to someone like y... (show quote)

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Oct 14, 2013 11:31:20   #
VladimirPee
 
Two Weeks Later, Reporter Still Can't Sign Up for Obamacare

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/two-weeks-later-reporter-still-cant-sign-obamacare_762482.html

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Oct 14, 2013 11:56:37   #
pixie
 
Jean wrote:
Obamacare law, which few have read, demands that the government be allowed to implant a micro-chip into our bodies. Children are first.It calls for our medical records to be sent to Washington to a federal data bank. The act allows the government to free access to our checking accounts to take money without our consent. There is more.

As free Americans are we really going to allow the government to have that kind of control over us as free citizens? This control and yes, oppression, is not the kind of country my ancestors fought and some died for. It is not the type of totalitarian society I want to live in and there are many thousands who would agree with me. They are among those with the courage and conviction to break down the barricades our government erected at national monuments. They are among the truckers who drove at their own expense, to Washington in protest of the ever increasing reach of the government. And yes, they are among the thousands who are standing on overpasses across the country with Impeach Obama signs.
Never in the history of our country have we seem this encroachment on citizen's privacy. The Orwellian type directives and surveillance we learn about every day.
Liberal may cheer the mistreatment of conservatives and continue to spew the lies about patriotic fellow Americans who will, in the final analysis, lead the way peacefully back to a free America or lead the citizens army into battle. It's clear to me that it's either or and if I were a betting person I know which one I would put my money on.
Obamacare law, which few have read, demands that ... (show quote)


:thumbup: agree!!

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Oct 14, 2013 13:20:57   #
Jean
 
Dennis, my deepest apologies. I did make an error in your name. I am also delighted that you are amoung the enlightened so I also misunderstood you.

Come, let's go have some tea.

JD

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Oct 14, 2013 14:01:03   #
VladimirPee
 
Jean wrote:
Dennis, my deepest apologies. I did make an error in your name. I am also delighted that you are amoung the enlightened so I also misunderstood you.

Come, let's go have some tea.

JD


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Oct 14, 2013 14:06:22   #
OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!
 
Richard94611 wrote:
If you don't read "that rag," then we know that puts you fairly low politically and intellectually. You sure do appear to be a dyed-in-the-wool racist.


Whoa! "If you don't read "that rag," then we know that puts you fairly low politically and intellectually"??!! What the hell are you smoking??!! It is YOU leftist's that are the racists! So, please spare us from this hypocritical garbage...we didn't drop out of grade school like you, pal.

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Oct 14, 2013 18:34:06   #
Richard94611
 
That administration people could not provide a number doesn't prove a thing about what I stated. The San Francisco Chronicle and the Oakland Tribune had the numbers for California. In the beginning I think the California site was down SIMPLE BECAUSE OF THE HUGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO GO THERE, A NUMBER THAT EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS.

HOW AM I BENEFITING OFF YOUR BACK ? PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS CONUNDRUM TO US. FURTHERMORE, IN WHAT WAY IS MY BEHAVIOR PARASITIC ?

YOU'RE FUNNY.



DennisDee wrote:
Sorry but the administration spokespeople were asked and could not provide a number. And yes California has also been down due to web problems.

Richard the problem is easy to see. You are benefiting off my BACK and will say ANYTHING to defend your parasitic behavior.

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Oct 14, 2013 18:53:28   #
VladimirPee
 
California is one of the only states where the system is working. Surely you read newspapers. The administration cannot provide a number so any claim of millions is simply a lie. How are you a parasite? Simple you are being subsidized by my higher rates and my taxes


Richard94611 wrote:
That administration people could not provide a number doesn't prove a thing about what I stated. The San Francisco Chronicle and the Oakland Tribune had the numbers for California. In the beginning I think the California site was down SIMPLE BECAUSE OF THE HUGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO GO THERE, A NUMBER THAT EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS.

HOW AM I BENEFITING OFF YOUR BACK ? PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS CONUNDRUM TO US. FURTHERMORE, IN WHAT WAY IS MY BEHAVIOR PARASITIC ?

YOU'RE FUNNY.

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Oct 14, 2013 19:04:54   #
TroubleshooterTim Loc: People's Republic of Oregon
 
Navigators...Trained and certified, but ACA Navigators are not required to pass a background check. Some state run exchanges require them, but not all. The Republican Obstructionist argument comes from the liberal talking point, let's be objective in our exploration here, please. The ACA grants provided to many states was inadequate, as it was unevenly distributed. Red states were offered considerable less than blue states (based on population).
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323463704578495431991530040.html

Sure, call 'em up, give them your personal info. They work for the POTUS.

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Oct 14, 2013 19:06:03   #
TroubleshooterTim Loc: People's Republic of Oregon
 
DennisDee wrote:
California is one of the only states where the system is working. Surely you read newspapers. The administration cannot provide a number so any claim of millions is simply a lie. How are you a parasite? Simple you are being subsidized by my higher rates and my taxes


California - Aetna, UnitedHealth, and Anthem Blue Cross are cancelling all subscribers in this state. Right now 58,000 have received notices and being forced to the exchange.

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Oct 14, 2013 19:53:14   #
Richard94611
 
Dennis, in what way am I being subsidized by your higher rates and taxes ?



DennisDee wrote:
California is one of the only states where the system is working. Surely you read newspapers. The administration cannot provide a number so any claim of millions is simply a lie. How are you a parasite? Simple you are being subsidized by my higher rates and my taxes

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Oct 14, 2013 19:55:14   #
Richard94611
 
Why then am I getting almost daily mailings from Anthem Blue Cross asking me to enroll ? I had one just three days ago. Your information is clearly wrong.



TroubleshooterTim wrote:
California - Aetna, UnitedHealth, and Anthem Blue Cross are cancelling all subscribers in this state. Right now 58,000 have received notices and being forced to the exchange.

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Oct 14, 2013 19:58:37   #
Richard94611
 
Does anyone care if the ACA Navigators had background checks ? Doesn't sound like a very sensitive job to me. The reason the Republican states required background checks was to make enrollment more difficult -- a Republican effort to scuttle ObamaCare.

ObamaCare is here to stay. It is already accomplishing amazing things in healthcare that have not been reported very much. Read the New York Times article about this here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/14/opinion/keller-obamacare-the-rest-of-the-story.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20131014



TroubleshooterTim wrote:
Navigators...Trained and certified, but ACA Navigators are not required to pass a background check. Some state run exchanges require them, but not all. The Republican Obstructionist argument comes from the liberal talking point, let's be objective in our exploration here, please. The ACA grants provided to many states was inadequate, as it was unevenly distributed. Red states were offered considerable less than blue states (based on population).
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323463704578495431991530040.html

Sure, call 'em up, give them your personal info. They work for the POTUS.
b Navigators /b ...Trained and certified, but ACA... (show quote)

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