Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

There seems to be a growing need on the part of some for civil disobedience over gun rules.

I have had no problem with these people with guns having them. I have said repeatedly on this site I have no person objection over people having guns.

I have no guns & no plans to get any guns.

But when I hear of how some would use Civil Disobedience on this issue it causes an alarm in me.

It is one of am I for or against either side. Now that means
I will be on the sideline not wanting to support either side actively. Then maybe having both sides against me.

So much for my personal freedom.

The whole thing comes down to just things being worse for every one.

DamnYANKEE

GOOD . GO HIDE . And PLEASE . DONT BUY ANY GUNS . Id rather YOU be a Victim than ME :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

EL Loc: Massachusetts

What would you do to keep your freedom, then?

Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!

We don't need your kind around anyway.
We have S&W.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

However, I expect to hear Obama talking about coming after my guns in some manner or other in the next few days and most of mine say Smith and Wesson on them.

Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)

I believe it was John Adams, President #2 who said a freedom once lost can never be returned, something like that...

The reason for the 2nd amendment is for people like Obama...

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4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

Well Floyd the ones that set straddled the fence are the weak and unstable ones for they care not about keeping their freedoms but are willing to have them taken away !

When the Supreme Court redefined marriage against the wishes of the people the effect has been a disaster !

Christians have lost their freedom to not serve the homo weddings such as bakers and florist no matter if they served them at all other times !

It will only get worse as time goes on and I predict that Christians will have to resort to civil disobedience and fight back !

So in a sense fence sitters will one day see their ALL freedoms taken away and will forced to bow down to a tyrannical government that well tell them what they can and cannot do !

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

I am not hiding. I don't plan to hide.

I have a great trust in most people doing the right thing.

If the system fails & most wish to pick up a gun because they lack trust in others so be it.

If the system fails there will have to be trust to put it back together again.

Is seems that it won't be some one like you.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

I have been on this site long enough to see that there is a great division among us.

There are those that claim to be Patriciates who would destroy our nation by force rather than make room in this country for those that are not to their liking.

Those that feel it is best to destroy what made this country what it was at it's best.

Just remember that there is a fine line between a Patriciate & a Terrorist. Even though the line is fine it all depends on who draws the line. It is the ones with the most power.

Just remember the Minutemen were Terrorist to the British.

I will let you claim to be what ever you wish but there are others that may claim you to be the other.

The system has come to be not what you would like it to be. You fail to put the blame in the right place.

The way to make things better is to Unite & find the real cause of our problems & look for the changes need to put the country back on track from with in the system.

The greatest threat to this nation is coming from within because we are so divided.

Be careful of what you would destroy in your quest to make this country into what you would like to see.

Artemis

I believe guns give fearful people a sense of security, but this security can be false. Maybe not almost 250 years ago, but now if the government wanted to take you, I dunno I think maybe they could, and you'll just wind up dead.

I am of the belief that your own homeland should have you feeling safe and protected, if that's not happening than the issue isn't guns it's politics, therefore change the focus.

What it comes down to is... fear sells, and the media sells the fear constantly.

A gun in the house minimally doubles the risk that a household member will kill himself or herself. (Some studies put the increase in suicide risk as high as 10 times.) An American is 50% more likely to be shot dead by his or her own hand than to be shot dead by a criminal assailant. More than 30,000 Americans injure themselves with guns every year.

The good news is that as America becomes safer, fewer and fewer Americans feel the need for a weapon. The overall violent crime index has tumbled by one-third since the early 1990s. The worst crimes -- murder and rape -- have declined even more. American citizens are safer today from crime than at almost any time since record-keeping began, very likely safer than at any time in the history of the country.

Americans perceive these improvements in the safety of their immediate neighborhood. Back in the early 1980s, half of Americans said they feared to walk alone at night near their own homes. By the early 2000s, only one-third expressed such fears. (Those fears have ticked up a little in the last few years, even as crime rates continue to fall, but again they remain way below historic peaks.)

Yet unfortunately, Americans are not, however, nearly so accurate at assessing national trends. In the mid-2000s, when crime rates were declining fast, almost 70% of Americans wrongly said that crime rates had risen over the past year.

Analysis: Why gun controls are off the agenda in America

What force on earth could convince Americans that down is up? The most powerful force of all: television.

TV news -- and especially local TV news -- is dominated by news of violent crime, the more spectacular and murderous the better. TV news creates a false picture of a country under attack by rampaging criminals, and especially nonwhite criminals. The people who watch the most TV news, Americans older than 50, also happen to be the group most likely to own a gun.

Only one-fifth of young Americans own a gun; one-third of over-50 Americans do. Republicans are twice as likely to own a gun as Democrats. Maybe not so coincidentally, Republicans are more likely to watch the scariest news channel of them all: Fox. Whites are twice as likely to own a gun as nonwhites -- and it may also not be a coincidence that gun purchases have suddenly spiked since November 2008.

Proponents of gun control are baffled that horrific massacres such as the one in Aurora, Colorado, do not lead to stricter gun control. They have their causation backward.

The more terrifyingly criminal the world looks, the more ineffective law enforcement seems, the more Americans demand the right to deadly weapons with which to defend themselves. It is local TV programming directors, not the National Rifle Association, who are tirelessly persuading Americans that they need to strap a gun to their legs before heading to the mall.

And what will change those attitudes is not more atrocity stories, but instead the reassuring truth: The United States is safe and getting safer, safer than ever before in its history.

The police can protect you, and will, and do. And a gun in the house is not a guarantee of personal security -- it is instead a standing invitation to family tragedy. The cold dead hands from which they pry the gun are very unlikely to be the hands of a heroic minuteman defending home and hearth against intruders. They are much more likely to be the hands of a troubled adolescent or a clumsy child.

In the land of the Second Amendment, nobody will take your guns away. But if you love your children, you should get rid of them voluntarily.

link credited~ http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/23/opinion/frum-guns/index.html

Kevyn

Gun or not, you are a pathetic victim every day of your own paranoid dillusion.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

That is a good question.

I am hoping that cooler heads will prevail in our quest for the answers we need.

The answers lay in the hearts & minds with people just like us.

We only need to stop looking at each other as the problem.

The problem I see is that we need to draw more people into being truly a part of the system

There seems to be a strong feeling by some that there are those that don't deserve to be a part of the system.

Nothing will improve our personal well being better than what helps the well being of those around Us.

A system in which EVERY ONE can truly have a shot at the American Dream again.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

Guns in the hands of people who lack trust in others is the problem as I see it.

Having guns isn't the basic problem if they are safely locked up in your home.

Carrying open guns in public to me is a sign of a lack of trust in others.

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

Sounds like what's comes out of the liberal DNC play book !

We must not disagree with the government as they and they alone are who knows what is best for the masses !

So says the fence sitters if something is drastically wrong we must not say or do anything to correct it because it will makes us look bad !

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

I have guns several matter a fact and I do not have a CC permit nor do I intend to get one , however there a lot of people that are dead now having the trust that you promote .

The REAL PROBLEM we have today is a moral one we have become a nation of it's all bout ME ME ME ME kids now days are not taught to have respect !

We have an entitlement thinking of give me give me with out working for them !

Kids now days have been coddled my mommy and daddy that they deserve a trophy for coming in last place cause everyone has to be a winner !