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Oct 2, 2013 03:20:45   #
OPP Newsletter
 
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/09/30/five-reasons-americans-already-love-obamacare-plus-one-reason-why-theyre-gonna/

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Oct 2, 2013 07:03:54   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
OPP Newsletter wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/09/30/five-reasons-americans-already-love-obamacare-plus-one-reason-why-theyre-gonna/


Point number 4 states that there is no evidence to support the claim that businesses are slashing employee hours. I beg to differ. All over GA, at least, mostly minimum wage workers are being cut to 29 hours or less per week. I did an informal survey of fast food restaurants and Dollar Stores, and every one had cut most of their employees hours. Just what a minimum wage worker needs to make his or her day.

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Oct 2, 2013 09:38:50   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
OPP Newsletter wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/09/30/five-reasons-americans-already-love-obamacare-plus-one-reason-why-theyre-gonna/

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What a bunch of crap! Everything in the article looks like it came from the Democrat daily briefing book. Reading it, I kept waiting for the punch line, certain it was coming any minute. I believe this Sally whatsername is smoking something bad with her booze.

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Oct 2, 2013 09:56:48   #
OldTrapper
 
banjojack wrote:
Point number 4 states that there is no evidence to support the claim that businesses are slashing employee hours. I beg to differ. All over GA, at least, mostly minimum wage workers are being cut to 29 hours or less per week. I did an informal survey of fast food restaurants and Dollar Stores, and every one had cut most of their employees hours. Just what a minimum wage worker needs to make his or her day.


Back in the 80's Raygun made restaurant employees exempt from having to be paid minimum wage, and tips counted as wages. It was also at that time that the definition of "full time" was changed, and hours were cut for many workers. My sister in law worked in a bank, and saw her hours cut so the bank did not have to give benefits.

The lower wage employee has been getting the shaft for 30 years, and so this is nothing new. Just another way for the rich to get richer, and the poor to get poorer.

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Oct 2, 2013 10:07:43   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
OldTrapper wrote:
Back in the 80's Raygun made restaurant employees exempt from having to be paid minimum wage, and tips counted as wages. It was also at that time that the definition of "full time" was changed, and hours were cut for many workers. My sister in law worked in a bank, and saw her hours cut so the bank did not have to give benefits.

The lower wage employee has been getting the shaft for 30 years, and so this is nothing new. Just another way for the rich to get richer, and the poor to get poorer.
Back in the 80's Raygun made restaurant employees ... (show quote)

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Jeez!!! I am so sick and tired of the old tired mantra, "the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer." It very well may be true, I don't know as i don't monitor other people's incomes. But even if it is true, there are reasons, most of them legal and proper, a few underhanded. But I despise the "richer getting richer and the poor getting poorer" because it sounds so kindergartnerish whining. When I am poor, I decide to work harder or try a different line of work, or take a chance on ideas for change. I don't whine, and I certainly don't compare my income to others. Only since Obama took office have I learned what a bunch of whiners Americans really are.

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Oct 3, 2013 11:30:54   #
OldTrapper
 
Tasine wrote:
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Jeez!!! I am so sick and tired of the old tired mantra, "the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer." It very well may be true, I don't know as i don't monitor other people's incomes. But even if it is true, there are reasons, most of them legal and proper, a few underhanded. But I despise the "richer getting richer and the poor getting poorer" because it sounds so kindergartnerish whining. When I am poor, I decide to work harder or try a different line of work, or take a chance on ideas for change. I don't whine, and I certainly don't compare my income to others. Only since Obama took office have I learned what a bunch of whiners Americans really are.
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LOL, the rich have been whining since Raygun was President, and he heard their crying, and responded accordingly. And if Obama was the beginning of your "enlightenment" one has to wonder just why it is that you ignored such until that moment in history.

However, if you had listened to, or even understood, the proposition of the Founders of the country you would know that income inequality was something that concerned even them.

Thomas Paine wrote:

"Separate an individual from society, and give him an island or a continent to possess, and he cannot acquire personal property. He cannot be rich. So inseparably are the means connected with the end, in all cases, that where the former do not exist the latter cannot be obtained. All accumulation, therefore, of personal property, beyond what a man's own hands produce, is derived to him by living in society; and he owes on every principle of justice, of gratitude, and of civilization, a part of that accumulation back again to society from whence the whole came."

Thomas Jefferson wrote:

"I am conscious that an equal division of property is impracticable, but the consequences of this enormous inequality producing so much misery to the bulk of mankind, legislators cannot invent too many devices for subdividing property, only taking care to let their subdivisions go hand in hand with the natural affections of the human mind. The descent of property of every kind therefore to all the children, or to all the brothers and sisters, or other relations in equal degree, is a politic measure and a practicable one. Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions or property in geometrical progression as they rise."

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Oct 3, 2013 14:14:18   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
OldTrapper wrote:
LOL, the rich have been whining since Raygun was President, and he heard their crying, and responded accordingly. And if Obama was the beginning of your "enlightenment" one has to wonder just why it is that you ignored such until that moment in history.

However, if you had listened to, or even understood, the proposition of the Founders of the country you would know that income inequality was something that concerned even them.

Thomas Paine wrote:
"Separate an individual from society, and give him an island or a continent to possess, and he cannot acquire personal property. He cannot be rich. So inseparably are the means connected with the end, in all cases, that where the former do not exist the latter cannot be obtained. All accumulation, therefore, of personal property, beyond what a man's own hands produce, is derived to him by living in society; and he owes on every principle of justice, of gratitude, and of civilization, a part of that accumulation back again to society from whence the whole came."

Thomas Jefferson wrote:

"I am conscious that an equal division of property is impracticable, but the consequences of this enormous inequality producing so much misery to the bulk of mankind, legislators cannot invent too many devices for subdividing property, only taking care to let their subdivisions go hand in hand with the natural affections of the human mind. The descent of property of every kind therefore to all the children, or to all the brothers and sisters, or other relations in equal degree, is a politic measure and a practicable one. Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions or property in geometrical progression as they rise."
LOL, the rich have been whining since Raygun was P... (show quote)



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These quotes must come from the Bible. They are presented as a preacher would quote verses to convince you of the truth of the statement.

Don't misunderstand. I, too believe like these guys believed. The primary difference between then and now isw that most people in America at that time had integrity and honesty - and no one can say that with a straight face today. The difference is that the standards in our country have been lowered so low that it amazes me that anyone can possibly be surprised. When standards start dropping, such as manners, decent dress, politeness, abortions on demand, homosexuals parading around like turkeys, total corruption within our government - and you think businesses are bad???????????????????????????????????? And Americans should boycott lousy business practices, but their individual greed and ignorance won't allow them because they want the product. For instance, I have boycotted movie stars of the political left stupidity: Jane Fonda, Barbra Streisand, Tim Robbins, Alec Baldwin, all of the leftists, etc. They are hypocrites of the worst order and I will not contribute to their wealth. But I know lots of people who say they "can't stand them" either, but her voice is so good, his acting is so great that I am willing to contribute to their wealth. THIS is what I am talking about when I speak of hypocrisy and principle.
Too many Americans have NONE, and the worse ones are on the political left. Try reigning them in a bit, and you may be surprised at the change in the country's attitudes.

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Oct 3, 2013 16:18:40   #
Chase
 
OK just seen information that the leaders are ready to nullify the Constitution. Anyone know about this? The video is on the email to fox news about five reasons why Americans love obamacare

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Oct 3, 2013 16:25:32   #
ashbrocha
 
OldTrapper wrote:
Back in the 80's Raygun made restaurant employees exempt from having to be paid minimum wage, and tips counted as wages. It was also at that time that the definition of "full time" was changed, and hours were cut for many workers. My sister in law worked in a bank, and saw her hours cut so the bank did not have to give benefits.

The lower wage employee has been getting the shaft for 30 years, and so this is nothing new. Just another way for the rich to get richer, and the poor to get poorer.
Back in the 80's Raygun made restaurant employees ... (show quote)


Wrong. Tips did not count as wages. That is why waiters were exempting from being paid minimum wage - because the tips were not being counter, and waiters were making many times the minimum wage why restaurants struggled to pay them the minimum wage under what they made in tips, which the restaurant did not get a cut of.

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Oct 3, 2013 16:28:24   #
ashbrocha
 
Chase wrote:
OK just seen information that the leaders are ready to nullify the Constitution. Anyone know about this? The video is on the email to fox news about five reasons why Americans love obamacare


Not quite. The guy they interviewed was discussing the theory that by shutting down the government, Congress and the President ACTUALLY WERE nullifying the Constitution.

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Oct 3, 2013 17:53:24   #
JQP Loc: Earth To Heaven
 
OPP Newsletter wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/09/30/five-reasons-americans-already-love-obamacare-plus-one-reason-why-theyre-gonna/


Notice that this poster FORGOT to mention the author of this article at the link given above. It's Sally Kohn, a long time ultra liberal. When you get to the website, don't bother reading the article, INSTEAD, click on her name which is an active link to other articles she has written. That will tell you all you need to know how "UNBIASED" her articles are.

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Oct 3, 2013 17:58:46   #
ashbrocha
 
JQP wrote:
Notice that this poster FORGOT to mention the author of this article at the link given above. It's Sally Kohn, a long time ultra liberal. When you get to the website, don't bother reading the article, INSTEAD, click on her name which is an active link to other articles she has written. That will tell you all you need to know how "UNBIASED" her articles are.


Well, I am not sure she represented her "article" to be unbiased. It was an opinion piece, and she is statedly a liberal op-ed writer.

Nothing sensational about that.

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Oct 3, 2013 18:07:58   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
ashbrocha wrote:
Well, I am not sure she represented her "article" to be unbiased. It was an opinion piece, and she is statedly a liberal op-ed writer.

Nothing sensational about that.


Hmm, and the libcom morons here keep saying that FOX news is just a mouthpiece of Republican conservatives. Lets see their libcom media do the same for REAL American Conservatives.

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Oct 3, 2013 18:08:13   #
Bhmason
 
JQP wrote:
Notice that this poster FORGOT to mention the author of this article at the link given above. It's Sally Kohn, a long time ultra liberal. When you get to the website, don't bother reading the article, INSTEAD, click on her name which is an active link to other articles she has written. That will tell you all you need to know how "UNBIASED" her articles are.

Exactly. Just proves FOX is fair and balanced since they publish the lies that lunatic writes. I keep seeing headline after headline that are the exact opposite of what she wrote.

Then there's this, the 800# hotline:

1-800-318-2596 spells. 1-800-F*CKYO


That is, 1-800-3(F) 8(U) 2(C) 5(K) 9(Y) 6(O)


http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/10/quite_a_coincidence.html#ixzz2ghNAA9AQ

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Oct 3, 2013 18:19:17   #
JQP Loc: Earth To Heaven
 
ashbrocha wrote:
Well, I am not sure she represented her "article" to be unbiased. It was an opinion piece, and she is statedly a liberal op-ed writer.

Nothing sensational about that.


Nothing sensational? Did you read the title: 5 reasons Americans already love Obamacare. No mention about who wrote this article until you go to the article, and if you aren't familiar with who the writer is, you may think that this is an unbiased opinion.

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