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Dec 10, 2015 13:29:29   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
Can a good Muslim be a good American?

This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:

Theologically - no.

Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon god of Arabia .

Religiously - no.

Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam. (Quran,2:256)(Koran)

Scripturally - no.

Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.

Geographically - no.

Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially - no.

Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically - no.

Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America , the great Satan.

Domestically - no.

Because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him. (Quran 4:34 )

Intellectually - no.

Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically - no.

Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran does not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually - no.

Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' The Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.

Therefore, after much study and deliberation... Perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both 'good' Muslims and 'good' Americans. Call it what you wish it's still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future.

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Dec 10, 2015 13:34:58   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
JMHO wrote:
Can a good Muslim be a good American?

This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:

Theologically - no.

Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon god of Arabia .

Religiously - no.

Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam. (Quran,2:256)(Koran)

Scripturally - no.

Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.

Geographically - no.

Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially - no.

Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically - no.

Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America , the great Satan.

Domestically - no.

Because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him. (Quran 4:34 )

Intellectually - no.

Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically - no.

Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran does not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually - no.

Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' The Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.

Therefore, after much study and deliberation... Perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both 'good' Muslims and 'good' Americans. Call it what you wish it's still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future.
Can a good Muslim be a good American? br br... (show quote)


It is the ultimate culture clash, and only one culture can win out, and it better not be the society designed by the pedophile, slave owner deviant , war monger and hater of all women Muhammed.

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Dec 10, 2015 13:38:02   #
RWNJ
 
JMHO wrote:
Can a good Muslim be a good American?

This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:

Theologically - no.

Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon god of Arabia .

Religiously - no.

Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam. (Quran,2:256)(Koran)

Scripturally - no.

Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.

Geographically - no.

Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially - no.

Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically - no.

Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America , the great Satan.

Domestically - no.

Because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him. (Quran 4:34 )

Intellectually - no.

Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically - no.

Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran does not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually - no.

Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' The Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.

Therefore, after much study and deliberation... Perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both 'good' Muslims and 'good' Americans. Call it what you wish it's still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future.
Can a good Muslim be a good American? br br... (show quote)


Devout muslims? Let me think about that...NO!

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Dec 10, 2015 14:14:15   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
RWNJ wrote:
Devout muslims? Let me think about that...NO!

Who do think set up the massive migration?

Here is the big problem too many people haven't figured out:
Without Zionist/Big Money funding Obama's campaign, and their MSM support; Obama would have never been elected.
So what is the plan; the agenda of the NWO Zionists?
Who does the influencing to get our politicians elected? Who does the selecting?
BIG Money and the favorable MSM.
Who owns the MSM? I hope more Americans start figuring this out.
Moslems do not own the MSM. Up until OB; there was very little Moslem influence.
Another important question - Who's purpose is Obama fulfilling?
Moslems do not get politicians elected.
This country has been getting screwed for many decades by those that control both political parties.
Who funds "radical" Islam; is the question to get answered.
Who will pay more attention to covert US foreign policy?
The old Marxist divide and conquer ploy is being used. Americans used to live together in relative peace.
The Network Media claims that Muslims and their sharia law (which is terrible) is a BIG threat; BUT
MSM ignores who has infiltrated our government and bought our politicians.
It ignores the internationalist, Council on Foreign Relation’s vetting in both political parties.
Who has any idea of who owns the MSM? (who's propaganda are we being fed daily?)
Who has any idea of who has control of US foreign policy? (CFR vetted politicians in both parties for decades)
Who has any idea of who has control of our economy? (The private Federal Reserve)
Who has any idea of who is financially enslaving the world, with their usury? Including the USA’s ($18 trillion debt), via The FED, IMF, World Bank, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, and the rest.
How is it that MSM ignores that Zionists have been behind the Muslim and illegal emigrations for decades? (diversity is good has been the internationalist’s propaganda)
Decades of /NeoCON/NWO/ /Bilderberger’s “Foreign Policy” has got America involved in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Libya, Egypt, Ukraine and ETC. The warmongers are still pushing for Ukraine, Syria and Iran. Our “Allies” have become “enemies” over and over and over! Most recent; the US armed the radical Sunnis (ISIS) in Syria to fight Assad’s Shiite government in Syria. Now the US is fighting the ISIS/Sunni/Al-Qaida slaughter going on in Iraq and Syria. The NeoCONs (ie. FOX, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, John Bolton, Charles Krauthammer, and other CFR pundits), continue to push for attack of the Shiite governments in Syria and Iran.
All Shiites are our enemies according to our Talking Heads on network TV, but according to the MSM, it was Saudi Sunnis attacking on 911. Not Shiites
I can only hope some here take the time to read, research and think.

Americans are being set up for some really bad turmoil (martial law under Dept. of Homeland Security), and the Powers That Be will deliver their planned “solutions”
For Non censored news and commentary:
Republic Broadcasting Network: http://republicbroadcasting.org/
For those that can handle the truth; RBN Live ONLINE!

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Dec 11, 2015 09:47:00   #
DamnYANKEE
 
JMHO wrote:
Can a good Muslim be a good American?

This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:

Theologically - no.

Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon god of Arabia .

Religiously - no.

Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam. (Quran,2:256)(Koran)

Scripturally - no.

Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.

Geographically - no.

Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially - no.

Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically - no.

Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America , the great Satan.

Domestically - no.

Because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him. (Quran 4:34 )

Intellectually - no.

Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically - no.

Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran does not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually - no.

Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' The Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.

Therefore, after much study and deliberation... Perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both 'good' Muslims and 'good' Americans. Call it what you wish it's still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future.
Can a good Muslim be a good American? br br... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: They CANT be American , PERIOD

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Dec 11, 2015 15:23:18   #
Singularity
 
JMHO wrote:
Can a good Muslim be a good American?

This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:

Theologically - no.

Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon god of Arabia .

Religiously - no.

Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam. (Quran,2:256)(Koran)

Scripturally - no.

Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.

Geographically - no.

Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially - no.

Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically - no.

Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America , the great Satan.

Domestically - no.

Because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him. (Quran 4:34 )

Intellectually - no.

Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically - no.

Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran does not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually - no.

Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' The Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.

Therefore, after much study and deliberation... Perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both 'good' Muslims and 'good' Americans. Call it what you wish it's still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future.
Can a good Muslim be a good American? br br... (show quote)


Can a good Christian be a good American?

This question occurred to me when I read this post. The following is my reply:

Theologically - no.

Because his allegiance is to Yahweh, The God of Abraham .

Religiously - no.

Because no other religion is accepted by His Yahweh except Christianity. ("Thou shalt have no other gods before me.") (Holy Bible)

Scripturally - no.

Because his allegiance is to the ten commandments and Jesus's kingship.

Geographically - no.

Because his allegiance is to Heaven, to which he looks as his real eternal home.

Socially - no.

Because his allegiance to Christianity forbids him to become unequally yoked to a non believer.

Politically - no.

Because he must submit to the God rather than man.

Domestically - no.

Because he is instructed to marry, populate the Earth and beat and stone to death any of his children when they are disrespectful to him. (Holy Bible)

Intellectually - no.

Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on secular principles and he believes the Bible to espouse the only non corrupt form of social governance.

Philosophically - no.

Because Christianity does not allow freedom of religion and expression for any other faiths. Secular Democracy and Christianity can co-exist as long as Christians ignore the scriptures commanding them to disengage from other citizens who remain unrepentant sinners (New Living Translation of the Holy Bible Luke 9:5. And if a town refuses to welcome you, shake its dust from your feet as you leave to show that you have abandoned those people to their fate." ) Every theocratic (non-secular) government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually - no.

Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' The Christian's God is loving and kind (notwithstanding the old Testament descriptions to the contrary!), while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names. (At least they present him honestly!)

The exact name and nature of the so referred to god is never clear.

Disregarding the constitutional principle of Separation of Church and State, this phrase unconstitutionally discriminates since it maligns the citizenhood of any citizen who believes differently than theists.

Therefore, after minimal study and deliberation... It seems clear that we should be very suspicious of ALL Christians and other religious persons in this country. They obviously cannot be both 'good' Christians and 'good' Americans. Call it what you wish it's still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future.

A theocracy is a theocracy is a theocracy! Muslim, Christian or Pastafarian, a government based on a religious faith is a theocracy.

The USA is not a theocracy.

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Dec 11, 2015 16:34:56   #
RWNJ
 
Singularity wrote:
Can a good Christian be a good American?

This question occurred to me when I read this post. The following is my reply:

Theologically - no.

Because his allegiance is to Yahweh, The God of Abraham .

Religiously - no.

Because no other religion is accepted by His Yahweh except Christianity. ("Thou shalt have no other gods before me.") (Holy Bible)

Scripturally - no.

Because his allegiance is to the ten commandments and Jesus's kingship.

Geographically - no.

Because his allegiance is to Heaven, to which he looks as his real eternal home.

Socially - no.

Because his allegiance to Christianity forbids him to become unequally yoked to a non believer.

Politically - no.

Because he must submit to the God rather than man.

Domestically - no.

Because he is instructed to marry, populate the Earth and beat and stone to death any of his children when they are disrespectful to him. (Holy Bible)

Intellectually - no.

Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on secular principles and he believes the Bible to espouse the only non corrupt form of social governance.

Philosophically - no.

Because Christianity does not allow freedom of religion and expression for any other faiths. Secular Democracy and Christianity can co-exist as long as Christians ignore the scriptures commanding them to disengage from other citizens who remain unrepentant sinners (New Living Translation of the Holy Bible Luke 9:5. And if a town refuses to welcome you, shake its dust from your feet as you leave to show that you have abandoned those people to their fate." ) Every theocratic (non-secular) government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually - no.

Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' The Christian's God is loving and kind (notwithstanding the old Testament descriptions to the contrary!), while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names. (At least they present him honestly!)

The exact name and nature of the so referred to god is never clear.

Disregarding the constitutional principle of Separation of Church and State, this phrase unconstitutionally discriminates since it maligns the citizenhood of any citizen who believes differently than theists.

Therefore, after minimal study and deliberation... It seems clear that we should be very suspicious of ALL Christians and other religious persons in this country. They obviously cannot be both 'good' Christians and 'good' Americans. Call it what you wish it's still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future.

A theocracy is a theocracy is a theocracy! Muslim, Christian or Pastafarian, a government based on a religious faith is a theocracy.

The USA is not a theocracy.
Can a good Christian be a good American? br br T... (show quote)


Idiot.

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Dec 11, 2015 17:24:42   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Who do think set up the massive migration?

Here is the big problem too many people haven't figured out:
Without Zionist/Big Money funding Obama's campaign, and their MSM support; Obama would have never been elected.
So what is the plan; the agenda of the NWO Zionists?
Who does the influencing to get our politicians elected? Who does the selecting?
BIG Money and the favorable MSM.
Who owns the MSM? I hope more Americans start figuring this out.
Moslems do not own the MSM. Up until OB; there was very little Moslem influence.
Another important question - Who's purpose is Obama fulfilling?
Moslems do not get politicians elected.
This country has been getting screwed for many decades by those that control both political parties.
Who funds "radical" Islam; is the question to get answered.
Who will pay more attention to covert US foreign policy?
The old Marxist divide and conquer ploy is being used. Americans used to live together in relative peace.
The Network Media claims that Muslims and their sharia law (which is terrible) is a BIG threat; BUT
MSM ignores who has infiltrated our government and bought our politicians.
It ignores the internationalist, Council on Foreign Relation’s vetting in both political parties.
Who has any idea of who owns the MSM? (who's propaganda are we being fed daily?)
Who has any idea of who has control of US foreign policy? (CFR vetted politicians in both parties for decades)
Who has any idea of who has control of our economy? (The private Federal Reserve)
Who has any idea of who is financially enslaving the world, with their usury? Including the USA’s ($18 trillion debt), via The FED, IMF, World Bank, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, and the rest.
How is it that MSM ignores that Zionists have been behind the Muslim and illegal emigrations for decades? (diversity is good has been the internationalist’s propaganda)
Decades of /NeoCON/NWO/ /Bilderberger’s “Foreign Policy” has got America involved in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Libya, Egypt, Ukraine and ETC. The warmongers are still pushing for Ukraine, Syria and Iran. Our “Allies” have become “enemies” over and over and over! Most recent; the US armed the radical Sunnis (ISIS) in Syria to fight Assad’s Shiite government in Syria. Now the US is fighting the ISIS/Sunni/Al-Qaida slaughter going on in Iraq and Syria. The NeoCONs (ie. FOX, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, John Bolton, Charles Krauthammer, and other CFR pundits), continue to push for attack of the Shiite governments in Syria and Iran.
All Shiites are our enemies according to our Talking Heads on network TV, but according to the MSM, it was Saudi Sunnis attacking on 911. Not Shiites
I can only hope some here take the time to read, research and think.

Americans are being set up for some really bad turmoil (martial law under Dept. of Homeland Security), and the Powers That Be will deliver their planned “solutions”
For Non censored news and commentary:
Republic Broadcasting Network: http://republicbroadcasting.org/
For those that can handle the truth; RBN Live ONLINE!
Who do think set up the massive migration? br br ... (show quote)








"BHB," was the final leg of "bringing America to (her) knees," but the down-right incompetence of taking the slithering monster of deception into the limelight, set Secular liberal progressives back to the 5th century of the MB, CAIR and the ISA. It turns out that America was a different animal than "WE" were perceived to be by a world that had been dying to get to our "Shining Light on the Hill," for centuries; and not nearly as dumb as our secular liberal progressive mainstream media and current administration expected. They even called for the MB, CAIR, ISA, CPUSA, SPUSA, LGBTQ, PPH and Code Pink for help. Oh, bad luck, Cynthia!!!

The LAST thing the "Marx/Alinskyites" in this administration needed was "exposure," and Saul Alinsky wrote pages and pages and pages in (his) blueprints to overthrow the "enemy," free-market Western civilization." YUP, "Rules for Radicals," [dedicated to the first radical, SATAN] was the radical communist "handbook," [so popular with the secular liberal progressive ideology]; that OWS jumped all over when they attacked Wall Street, the traffic in NYC and damn-near ruined the well-healed communist haven of Manhattan.

It was actually funny watching the "entitled" children of the "revolution," pitch tents next to dads summer digs on the Lower West Side, "West Village," and although dad was jumbo-jetting to Rio for that month, those adults encouraging the "movement" tried to put up with their useful idiot children pissing and defecating on police cars, raping women, looting and disturbing their normal business days, but enough was enough. The OWS came to a rather embarrassing [to normal people] screeching halt, but they had to look at the bright side of things; and sure enough, before they knew it, Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown fit right into their radical agenda!!!

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Dec 11, 2015 18:47:34   #
Singularity
 
RWNJ wrote:
Idiot.


Matt 5: 22

Although I am technically not your brother....

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Dec 11, 2015 18:52:41   #
RWNJ
 
Singularity wrote:
Matt 5: 22

Although I am technically not your brother....


I was simply stating a fact. You know nothing about Christianity. Your post proves it.

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Dec 11, 2015 19:49:29   #
Singularity
 
RWNJ wrote:
I was simply stating a fact. You know nothing about Christianity. Your post proves it.


I am no idiot and I am well versed on the topic of Christianity. My many posts prove it.

You are stating what you know to be a lie in order to avoid revealing your appalling lack of ability to refute my assertions in civil discourse. Shame on you!

You are persistently dismissive of any opinion in opposition to yours and abusive to the opinion bearer. Shame on you, twice, again!

I can think of no poorer ambassador for Christ than one who believes this to be a productive behavior. There might be a metaphorical millstone in your future. If you don't get that reference, you are a fraud. If you do, you will admit your lie.

If you do nothing but abuse, call names and attack my character, it will reflect upon you, not me.

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Dec 11, 2015 20:23:55   #
RWNJ
 
Singularity wrote:
I am no idiot and I am well versed on the topic of Christianity. My many posts prove it.

You are stating what you know to be a lie in order to avoid revealing your appalling lack of ability to refute my assertions in civil discourse. Shame on you!

You are persistently dismissive of any opinion in opposition to yours and abusive to the opinion bearer. Shame on you, twice, again!

I can think of no poorer ambassador for Christ than one who believes this to be a productive behavior. There might be a metaphorical millstone in your future. If you don't get that reference, you are a fraud. If you do, you will admit your lie.

If you do nothing but abuse, call names and attack my character, it will reflect upon you, not me.
I am no idiot and I am well versed on the topic of... (show quote)


Hypocrite! You attack my faith, compare it to Islam, then claim that Christians cannot be good Americans. You use fallacious arguments, through ignorance or malice, or both; then have the nerve to call me out on my behavior.

YOU are the one with the millstone. Not me.

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Dec 11, 2015 20:52:01   #
Singularity
 
RWNJ wrote:
Hypocrite! You attack my faith, compare it to Islam, then claim that Christians cannot be good Americans. You use fallacious arguments, through ignorance or malice, or both; then have the nerve to call me out on my behavior.

YOU are the one with the millstone. Not me.

Please elaborate upon the fallacious arguments by offering your reasoned discourse. There is no need for your surleyness.

Defend your aforementioned behavior with a reasoned logical discourse.

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Dec 11, 2015 21:37:26   #
RWNJ
 
Singularity wrote:
Please elaborate upon the fallacious arguments by offering your reasoned discourse. There is no need for your surleyness.

Defend your aforementioned behavior with a reasoned logical discourse.


Waste of time. You wouldn't listen anyway. Besides, this country was founded on Christian values. So your claim that Christians can't be good Americans is simply ludicrous.

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Dec 11, 2015 21:43:40   #
woz75 Loc: Wisconsin
 
Brainwashed simpletons...Trumpets - undereducated drooling mouth breathers - tanking the republiKKKlan party into history's garbage chute - hilariously sad

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