VladimirPee

Ex-DIA boss Michael Flynn: White House took "willful decision" to fund, train Syria Islamists ISIS

http://youtu.be/ccdeANvo2bg

robmull Loc: florida

Long before Syria, the secular liberal progressives in American government were financing and arming the Taliban and al Qaeda in places like Benghazi, VP. And ISIS got the BIGGEST American armament when they got to the purposely American vacated Iraq. Actually trillion$ - that's TRILLION$ of dollar$, with a "T," were practically hand-delivered to ISIS by the Iraqi troops that had been infiltrated and threatened by the Sunni forces of ISIS {ISIL} that we had been arming in Syria. It seems one night while "WE" were sleeping, our secular liberal progressive government switched sides. Hummmmm. Can you imagine THAT??? And who's still asleep???

boatbob2

IM NOT asleep,Ive seen this BULL SHIT coming for over 7 years,My son in law,has been playing in the sand box,(Iraq and Afghanistan) 7 different times,, LT Col,Special forces,there have been a lot of soldiers airmen and Marines there,more times than him.Its Vietnam all over again,IF were going to fight a war,FIGHT THE DAMN THING,,,KEEP THE DAMN BALL LESS POTUS AND POLITICIANS OUT OF IT.

samtheyank

The Moron, George Bush, has as much responsibility for creating the monster, as you call it, as our current Black Sambo in the Black House.

VladimirPee

Bush has ZERO responsibility for ISIS. ZERO.

VladimirPee

This is correct and Obama waited so long to help Syrian moderates those moderates were either killed or absorbed into ISIS. And by the statements made yesterday by Ashton Carter is seems the Obama admin is still concerned mainly with removal of Assad.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

vlad,

quite the contrary.. and the situation is clear that while effects were not immediate, as few political policies are, the origin can not be disputed..


"Your brother created ISIS," college student Ivy Ziedrich told Bush during a town-hall-style meeting in Reno, Nevada, on Wednesday. "ISIS" is a common name for the militant group that calls itself the Islamic State, and the "brother" in question, of course, is former President George W. Bush.

Moments earlier, the former Florida governor had been telling the audience that President Barack Obama was responsible for the rise of the militant group. But Ziedrich, a student at the University of Nevada, Reno, replied that Bush's version of history glossed over a few key events.

"You stated that ISIS was created because we don't have enough presence and we've been pulling out of the Middle East," she said. "However, the threat of ISIS was created by the Iraqi coalition authority, which ousted the entire government of Iraq. It was when 30,000 individuals who are part of the Iraqi military were forced out. They had no employment, they had no income, yet they were left with access to all the same arms and weapons."

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

More misinformation from the Obama haters..

Look to facts and drop the partisan hate line..

Just over 12 years ago, George W. Bush appointed L. Paul Bremer to run Iraq. Bremer was given massive powers and a mandate to turn Iraq into a GOP dream: a free-market-loving, America-backing Muslim state that would stand as a shining beacon in the Middle East.

Bremer quietly left the country 14 months later, handing over power to an interim government in which 85 percent of Iraqis, at the time, said they lacked confidence. Much of their discontent had to do with Iraq's security problems, which U.S. officials told The Washington Post were exacerbated by Bremer's decision to disband the Iraqi army.

One of the men who lost his job was, according to a major recent report by the German magazine Der Spiegel, a key architect of the Islamic State.

Der Spiegel last month published a story based on captured documents that appear to belong to the Islamic State. Those documents discuss a man known to the militants as Haji Bakr. His real name -- the name by which he was known when he served in Saddam Hussein's air force intelligence services -- was Samir Abd Muhammad al-Khlifawi.

Der Spiegel spoke about Bakr with Iraqi researcher Hisham al-Hashimi, who has advised the Iraqi government. Hashimi said that Bremer's move left the onetime Hussein loyalist "bitter and unemployed."

VladimirPee

Obama 2011

" Iraq: We have left behind a "sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq"

Former DIA Chief Michael Flynn Says Rise Of ISIS Was A "Willful Decision" Of US Government

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/08/10/former_dia_chief_michael_flynn_says_rise_of_isis_was_willful_decision_of_us_government.html


It has nothing to do with Bush. Everyone told him we needed a residual force left behind. His extremist ideology rejected that

samtheyank

When he, George Bush, invaded Iraq, he destroyed a deterent and a force that kept some sembelence of order in the Middle East. All this has a Domino Effect. One thing leads to another. It is not hard to figure out. Put your thinking cap on and reason. This has been said by others and published in books about current topics on the M. E. You sound like a Bush Lackey. I sure hope his brother does not become our next President.

VladimirPee

Sorry but that dog doesn't bark. The claim is that Bush should not have ousted a secular dictator . So what does Obama do? Attempts to oust Assad in Syria and destabilizes it. Obama owns this not Bush

Plus Obama was warned about not leaving a contingency force behind. He was so thrilled to run from Iraq he declared Iraq stable and sovereign in 2011

samtheyank

There is an old saying when you study history. One event leads to another and the things that happened in the past are the things we deal with today. I will say it again! President George Bush, number 43, helped create things that are happening in Syria, and other places, in the Middle East. I will say one other thing. George Bush, and his policies, helped usher in Barack Obama as our 44th President. Now, you got it!

VladimirPee

I agree that Bush helped usher in Obama. But I disagree that Bush has any responsibility for ISIS. Obama owns this one. HE is the one who tried to oust Assad and destabilized Syria. He ousted Khadaffi and destabilized Libya and Yemen

samtheyank

I am wasting my time trying to convince you otherwise.

I respect your position. I just don't agree with it.

Happy Thanksgiving!

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

Assad has pictures of Obama making love to Kerry. Prime motive for his rants against Assad.