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Oct 12, 2015 14:30:15   #
payne1000
 
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEHsSWvrGVSIA63OV3J6vhA

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Oct 12, 2015 15:04:19   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
payne1000 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEHsSWvrGVSIA63OV3J6vhA

Old news to me, but a very important message nevertheless and it's amazing how many people have no idea... Even more amazing that so many actively refuse to accept it. Literally millions of conservatives insisting that the United States is the first world power in human history with a shiny halo. The only people more gullible and well... stupid are the North Koreans who actually think Kim Jong is supernatural.

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Oct 12, 2015 15:37:38   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
straightUp wrote:
Old news to me, but a very important message nevertheless and it's amazing how many people have no idea... Even more amazing that so many actively refuse to accept it. Literally millions of conservatives insisting that the United States is the first world power in human history with a shiny halo. The only people more gullible and well... stupid are the North Koreans who actually think Kim Jong is supernatural.


And, nutbags like you.

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Oct 12, 2015 16:09:05   #
payne1000
 
straightUp wrote:
Old news to me, but a very important message nevertheless and it's amazing how many people have no idea... Even more amazing that so many actively refuse to accept it. Literally millions of conservatives insisting that the United States is the first world power in human history with a shiny halo. The only people more gullible and well... stupid are the North Koreans who actually think Kim Jong is supernatural.


Gerald Celente, a political atheist, has much to say about what's really going on. http://marketsanity.com/gerald-celente-this-is-a-turning-point-event/?mc_cid=be96f1d477&mc_eid=f0754ee742

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Oct 12, 2015 16:09:29   #
payne1000
 
JMHO wrote:
And, nutbags like you.


Zionist troll.

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Oct 12, 2015 16:22:37   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
payne1000 wrote:
Zionist troll.


Jew hating POS!

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Oct 12, 2015 16:36:04   #
payne1000
 
JMHO wrote:
Jew hating POS!


To the contrary, I'm an anti-Zionist. There are many Jews who have my utmost respect. Here are quotes from some of them:

Sigmund Freud:

"I concede with sorrow that the baseless fanaticism of our people is in part to be blamed for the awakening of Arab distrust. I can raise no sympathy at all for the misdirected piety which transforms a piece of a Herodian wall into a national relic, thereby offending the feelings of the natives."

Albert Einstein:

"The (Israeli) state idea is not according to my heart. I cannot understand why it is needed. It is connected with many difficulties and a narrow-mindedness. I believe it is bad."

Erich Fromm, social psychologist:

"The claim of the Jews to the Land of Israel cannot be a realistic political claim. If all nations would suddenly claim territories in which their forefathers lived two thousand years ago, this world would be a madhouse."

Primo Levi, writer and Auschwitz survivor:

"Everyone has their Jews. For the Israelis they are the Palestinians."

Marek Edelman, last surviving leader of the 1943 Warsaw uprising:

Edelman wrote a letter in support of the Palestine resistance, comparing them to ZOB, the Jewish fighters in Warsaw. He opened with, "Commanders of the Palestine military, paramilitary and partisan operations - to all the soldiers of the Palestine fighting organisations."

Isaac Asimov, novelist:

"I find myself in the odd position of not being a Zionist ... I think it is wrong for anyone to feel that there is anything special about any one heritage of whatever kind. It is delightful to have the human heritage exist in a thousand varieties, for it makes for greater interest, but as soon as one variety is thought to be more important than another, the groundwork is laid for destroying them all."

Hannah Arendt, political scientist:

"The trouble is that Zionism has often thought and said that the evil of antisemitism was necessary for the good of the Jewish people. In the words of a well-known Zionist in a letter to me discussing the original Zionist argumentation: 'The antisemites want to get rid of the Jews, the Jewish State wants to receive them, a perfect match.' "

I.F. Stone, US journalist:

"Israel is creating a kind of moral schizophrenia in world Jewry. In the outside world the welfare of Jewry depends on the maintenance of secular, non-racial, pluralistic societies. In Israel, Jewry finds itself defending a society in which mixed marriages cannot be legalized, in which the ideal is racial and exclusionist."

Noam Chomsky:

"In the Occupied Territories, what Israel is doing is much worse than apartheid. To call it apartheid is a gift to Israel, at least if by "apartheid" you mean South African-style apartheid. What's happening in the Occupied Territories is much worse."

Gabriel Kolko, one of the leading historians on modern warfare:

"The large majority of Israelis are not in the least Jewish in the cultural sense, are scarcely socialist in any sense, and daily life and the way people live is no different in Israel than it is in Chicago or Amsterdam. There is simply no rational reason that justifies the state's creation."

Miriam Margolyes, actor:

"The black South Africans asked for our support and now it's the Palestinians who are asking for our support. I hate what Israel is doing over there to the Palestinians. I think that boycotting is a very active and non-violent way of protesting."

Uri Avnery, ex-Israeli army officer:

Avnery wrote that after an Israeli military victory, "What will be seared into the consciousness of the world will be the image of Israel as a blood-stained monster, ready at any moment to commit war crimes and not prepared to abide by any moral restraints."

Henry Siegman, Rabbi and director of the U.S./Middle East Project:

"Israel has crossed the threshold from ‘the only democracy in the Middle East' to the only apartheid regime in the Western world."

Richard Cohen, US columnist:

"The greatest mistake Israel could make at the moment is to forget that Israel itself is a mistake … the idea of creating a nation of European Jews in an area of Arab Muslims (and some Christians) has produced a century of warfare and terrorism of the sort we are seeing now. Israel fights Hezbollah in the north and Hamas in the south, but its most formidable enemy is history itself."

Roseanne Barr, US comedian, writer, director, presidential candidate:

"I am sick of Israel and I am sick of Zionists. They are propped up by evangelical Christians who cannot wait for the Arabs to kill them so that their genocidal war god whom they misname Jesus can come back."

Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor of Tikkun Magazine:

"If a Jew today goes into any synagogue in the U.S. or around the world and says, 'I don't believe in God or Torah and I don't follow the commandments,' most will still welcome you in and urge you to become involved. But say, 'I don't support the State of Israel,' and you are likely to be labeled a 'self-hating Jew' or anti-Semite, scorned and dismissed."

Richard Falk, the former UN special rapporteur on human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territories:

Falk has called Israeli policies in the Occupied Territories "a crime against humanity." Falk also has compared Israel's treatment of the Palestinians to the Nazi treatment of the Jews. Falk has said, "I think the Palestinians stand out as the most victimized people in the world."

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Oct 12, 2015 16:56:07   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
payne1000 wrote:
To the contrary, I'm an anti-Zionist. There are many Jews who have my utmost respect. Here quotes from some of them:

Sigmund Freud:

"I concede with sorrow that the baseless fanaticism of our people is in part to be blamed for the awakening of Arab distrust. I can raise no sympathy at all for the misdirected piety which transforms a piece of a Herodian wall into a national relic, thereby offending the feelings of the natives."

Albert Einstein:

"The (Israeli) state idea is not according to my heart. I cannot understand why it is needed. It is connected with many difficulties and a narrow-mindedness. I believe it is bad."

Erich Fromm, social psychologist:

"The claim of the Jews to the Land of Israel cannot be a realistic political claim. If all nations would suddenly claim territories in which their forefathers lived two thousand years ago, this world would be a madhouse."

Primo Levi, writer and Auschwitz survivor:

"Everyone has their Jews. For the Israelis they are the Palestinians."

Marek Edelman, last surviving leader of the 1943 Warsaw uprising:

Edelman wrote a letter in support of the Palestine resistance, comparing them to ZOB, the Jewish fighters in Warsaw. He opened with, "Commanders of the Palestine military, paramilitary and partisan operations - to all the soldiers of the Palestine fighting organisations."

Isaac Asimov, novelist:

"I find myself in the odd position of not being a Zionist ... I think it is wrong for anyone to feel that there is anything special about any one heritage of whatever kind. It is delightful to have the human heritage exist in a thousand varieties, for it makes for greater interest, but as soon as one variety is thought to be more important than another, the groundwork is laid for destroying them all."

Hannah Arendt, political scientist:

"The trouble is that Zionism has often thought and said that the evil of antisemitism was necessary for the good of the Jewish people. In the words of a well-known Zionist in a letter to me discussing the original Zionist argumentation: 'The antisemites want to get rid of the Jews, the Jewish State wants to receive them, a perfect match.' "

I.F. Stone, US journalist:

"Israel is creating a kind of moral schizophrenia in world Jewry. In the outside world the welfare of Jewry depends on the maintenance of secular, non-racial, pluralistic societies. In Israel, Jewry finds itself defending a society in which mixed marriages cannot be legalized, in which the ideal is racial and exclusionist."

Noam Chomsky:

"In the Occupied Territories, what Israel is doing is much worse than apartheid. To call it apartheid is a gift to Israel, at least if by "apartheid" you mean South African-style apartheid. What's happening in the Occupied Territories is much worse."

Gabriel Kolko, one of the leading historians on modern warfare:

"The large majority of Israelis are not in the least Jewish in the cultural sense, are scarcely socialist in any sense, and daily life and the way people live is no different in Israel than it is in Chicago or Amsterdam. There is simply no rational reason that justifies the state's creation."

Miriam Margolyes, actor:

"The black South Africans asked for our support and now it's the Palestinians who are asking for our support. I hate what Israel is doing over there to the Palestinians. I think that boycotting is a very active and non-violent way of protesting."

Uri Avnery, ex-Israeli army officer:

Avnery wrote that after an Israeli military victory, "What will be seared into the consciousness of the world will be the image of Israel as a blood-stained monster, ready at any moment to commit war crimes and not prepared to abide by any moral restraints."

Henry Siegman, Rabbi and director of the U.S./Middle East Project:

"Israel has crossed the threshold from ‘the only democracy in the Middle East' to the only apartheid regime in the Western world."

Richard Cohen, US columnist:

"The greatest mistake Israel could make at the moment is to forget that Israel itself is a mistake … the idea of creating a nation of European Jews in an area of Arab Muslims (and some Christians) has produced a century of warfare and terrorism of the sort we are seeing now. Israel fights Hezbollah in the north and Hamas in the south, but its most formidable enemy is history itself."

Roseanne Barr, US comedian, writer, director, presidential candidate:

"I am sick of Israel and I am sick of Zionists. They are propped up by evangelical Christians who cannot wait for the Arabs to kill them so that their genocidal war god whom they misname Jesus can come back."

Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor of Tikkun Magazine:

"If a Jew today goes into any synagogue in the U.S. or around the world and says, 'I don't believe in God or Torah and I don't follow the commandments,' most will still welcome you in and urge you to become involved. But say, 'I don't support the State of Israel,' and you are likely to be labeled a 'self-hating Jew' or anti-Semite, scorned and dismissed."

Richard Falk, the former UN special rapporteur on human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territories:

Falk has called Israeli policies in the Occupied Territories "a crime against humanity." Falk also has compared Israel's treatment of the Palestinians to the Nazi treatment of the Jews. Falk has said, "I think the Palestinians stand out as the most victimized people in the world."
To the contrary, I'm an anti-Zionist. There are ma... (show quote)


You're a leftist Jew hating POS!

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Oct 12, 2015 17:04:03   #
payne1000
 
JMHO wrote:
You're a leftist Jew hating POS!


I'm a political atheist (and an atheist where religion is concerned).

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Oct 12, 2015 17:30:45   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
payne1000 wrote:
I'm a political atheist (and an atheist where religion is concerned).


You're a leftist atheist Jew hating POS!

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Oct 12, 2015 19:12:56   #
payne1000
 
JMHO wrote:
You're a leftist atheist Jew hating POS!


You're a Zionist troll who is in the running for the most obnoxious member of this forum.

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Oct 13, 2015 07:29:35   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
payne1000 wrote:
You're a Zionist troll who is in the running for the most obnoxious member of this forum.


No, you beat me by a long shot...leftist atheist Jew hating POS.

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Oct 13, 2015 07:44:41   #
payne1000
 
JMHO wrote:
No, you beat me by a long shot...leftist atheist Jew hating POS.



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Oct 13, 2015 07:51:18   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
More payne1000 propaganda and lies.

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Oct 13, 2015 07:57:23   #
payne1000
 
JMHO wrote:
More payne1000 propaganda and lies.


More logic and facts which JMHO can't refute.

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