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Oct 11, 2015 01:11:28   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
RWNJ wrote:
This is why I refuse to try to explain anything about my faith to you. No matter what I, or any other Christian says, you reject it out of hand. You do not seek understanding. You're just here to bash Christians.


its his bad boob nature, he will never give you the satisfaction. cartoons and crayons are his stock and trade. Are you expecting a miracle or something.

God won't grant him one, God wants bad boob to remain bombastic and cynical. Isn't that right boob. ignorant to the core.







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Oct 11, 2015 06:05:39   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
RWNJ wrote:
Actually I could, and I have. You're just not able to understand it. So I won't even try. Besides. You'd just claim any explanation I gave you was a bunch of BS. Just like you always do. Every time the topic is Christianity, you claim everyone who believes in it is a dummy. Tell me I'm wrong.


Only when some idiot Christian makes a statement like "God used evil for good."

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Oct 11, 2015 06:59:51   #
She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia
 
I never signed up for Obamacare. I pay three times as much as I did two years ago for my employees insurance. Obamacare was just another tax give away to corporations. One need only ask, "Who benefited?' The insurance companies, big pharm. and of course the AMA.

The people who only qualify for the lowest cost policies in reality have no policies. If they had the ridiculous deductibles they wouldn't need the policies. Much ado about nothing.

While I was hospitalized in Germany, I found their system to be far superior to the U.S. I had no waiting time. My doctors stayed in the room and explained each procedure. I did not feel I had to block the door to get an answer. Their nursing staff was better trained and much more caring of the patients.

Our system is broken. It is only concerned with the bottom line. The prices for care and drugs are higher than anywhere else in the world and the care is substandard.

A one payer system would solve these problems. Negotiated prices. If doctors wish to leave, leave. I have no idea where they will go that will not include a one payer system. I am sure if the People's Republic of China, Israel, and even Russia can provide medical care for all its' people the U.S. should be able to do so. We just have to take the dark money out of the pockets of our so called representative.

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Oct 11, 2015 07:09:07   #
Kevyn
 
RWNJ wrote:
I'm not worried. My life is in God's hands. And He hasn't failed me yet.
How can he when no one ever gets out alive?

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Oct 11, 2015 07:28:29   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
She Wolf wrote:
I never signed up for Obamacare. I pay three times as much as I did two years ago for my employees insurance. Obamacare was just another tax give away to corporations. One need only ask, "Who benefited?' The insurance companies, big pharm. and of course the AMA.

The people who only qualify for the lowest cost policies in reality have no policies. If they had the ridiculous deductibles they wouldn't need the policies. Much ado about nothing.

While I was hospitalized in Germany, I found their system to be far superior to the U.S. I had no waiting time. My doctors stayed in the room and explained each procedure. I did not feel I had to block the door to get an answer. Their nursing staff was better trained and much more caring of the patients.

Our system is broken. It is only concerned with the bottom line. The prices for care and drugs are higher than anywhere else in the world and the care is substandard.

A one payer system would solve these problems. Negotiated prices. If doctors wish to leave, leave. I have no idea where they will go that will not include a one payer system. I am sure if the People's Republic of China, Israel, and even Russia can provide medical care for all its' people the U.S. should be able to do so. We just have to take the dark money out of the pockets of our so called representative.
I never signed up for Obamacare. I pay three time... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Oct 11, 2015 09:25:06   #
DeepBlue
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I hate ads like this. :thumbdown:

I never opted in to O-care in the first place. I only needed two words. "F U".


&#128077;&#128077;&#128077;

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Oct 11, 2015 09:42:52   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
God gives free will to all man and Obama is just a prickly thorn that's part of life.



Bad Bob wrote:
Your God gave you President Obama. :thumbup:

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Oct 11, 2015 09:58:12   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
bmac32 wrote:
God gives free will to all man and Obama is just a prickly thorn that's part of life.


:thumbup: :thumbup:





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Oct 11, 2015 10:57:21   #
glen10
 
Fema camps aren't a myth but they aren't what you are implying. They are mostly set up in old army camp and stocked with food in strategic areas in case of national emergencies.
waiting until something happens would be a nightmare to get shelter up and running during an emergency. The conspiracy is part of many right wing conspiracies to cause fear for some perverted reason by the right.

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Oct 11, 2015 11:06:08   #
RWNJ
 
Kevyn wrote:
How can he when no one ever gets out alive?


This life is only a way point to my final destination, and I can't wait to get there.

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Oct 11, 2015 11:09:33   #
glen10
 
Subject: Democrats need to stand up to the GOP and The No, Hell No and No Idea agenda

DEMOCRATS NEED TO STAND UP TO THE GOP NO AND NO IDEA MACHINE

Subject: DEMOCRATS NEED TO TAKE CONTROL OF THEIR OWN AGENDAS

I believe the problem with democrats is they don't listen. I had written many time about getting the message out of your accomplishments. but not a word . You let the republicans and right wing talk show define what you had done or not done. That should be corrected immediately. Also the Senate should pass or put up for a vote on the 200 plus house bills passed be the House. An up or down vote on each one . No discussion , if so limit to 1 hour per bill. I believe that all so called controversy bills should be brought up and voted on the same way. An assembly line of bills if you will.Don't ask don't tell repeal, cap and trade, immigration dream plan as a public option for the health care bill and the health care bill needs to be moved up as to the implementation. On Jan. first as you pass your new rules, have the V. President declare the cloture rule unconstitutional and go for an up or down vote with 51% . Or you can continue to let the Republicans crap all over you.

ALSO : AN APPROACH TO SS AND MEDICARE/MEDICAID.
SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE/MEDICAID

Subject: SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE/MEDICAID MADE SIMPLE
SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE I BELIEVE ARE SIMPLE TO REFORM. FIRST YOU DON'T WANT TO HURT THE OUTCOME AND TO REVERSE THE TREND. THEY BOTH NEED TO BE RUN LIKE A BUSINESS AND USE GOOD BUSINESS MODELS TO RESTRUCTURE. *[FIRST SOCIAL SECURITY]-----I BELIEVE SOCIAL SECURITY NEEDS TO BE BROKEN UP IN TO 2 DIVISIONS, ONE PART LEAVE MEDICARE AS IS, THE OTHER MAKE MORE LIKE A MUTUAL FUND. TAKE 10% THE FIRST 2 YEARS AND INVEST IN TO S&P 500. THE 3RD. 4TH AND 5TH YEARS INCREASE THAT AMOUNT 5% EA OF THE NEXT 3 YEARS WITH A TOTAL OF 25% OF SOCIAL MONIES INVESTED IN TO THE S&P 500. EVERYONE WILL BENEFIT FROM THE 75%-25% RATIO. FOR YOUNGER INVESTOR, THEY CAN INVEST INTO THIS SOCIAL SECURITY MUTUAL FUND LIKE ANY OTHER MUTUAL FUND FOR AN ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS PORTFOLIO. IT WOULD BE A TAX FREE INVESTMENT LIKE AN IRA. OR ROTH. THERE WOULD BE A SPECIAL PANEL SET UP MANAGE THE FUND. THIS WOULD GIVE
ADDITIONAL MONEY COMING INTO THE SS FUND. THE GOVERNMENT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BORROW FROM THIS FUND[25% PORTION OF IT]. I AM NOT SMART ENOUGH TO WORK ALL THE DETAILS OUT, BUT IT WOULD INCREASE SOLVENCY AND HOPEFULLY BENEFITS PAYMENTS. AFTER INTEREST WAS PAID TO THE SS MUTUAL PLAN WERE, THEN THE PROFITS OF THE PLAN WOULD BE PLOWED INTO THE OVERALL STANDARD SOCIAL SECURITY KITTY. *[SECOND MEDICARE AND MEDICAID]----------MEDICARE NEEDS TO BE MORE LIKE A MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PLAN BENEFIT PACKAGE ELIMINATION THE NEED FOR OUTSIDE CONTRACTING OF BENEFITS. ALL MEDICARE AND MEDICAID NEED TO BE DONE IN HOUSE. THIS WOULD ELIMINATE A LOT OF FRAUD AND WASTE. THERE SHOULD BE A MEDICARE 2 IN THE WORKS FOR PEOPLE UNDER 65. IT SHOULD BE THE SAME TYPE OF COVERAGE[THE PUBLIC OPTION IF YOU WILL]IT WAS STUPID TO TAKE IT OFF THE HEALTH CARE BILL. IT APPEARS THAT MAYBE AS HIGH AS 80 %+ OF MEDICARE EXPENSE IS FRAUD AND WASTE,HOSPITAL, DOCTORS- NURSING HOMES-INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTING-THOUSANDS OF STORE FRONT FRAUD OPERATIONS AND THE LIST GOES ON. HOW DO YOU STOP IT? YOU ARM YOUR SELF WITH A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY THAT IS TOUGH AND THE PENALTY IS HIGH ENOUGH TO DISCOURAGE VIOLATORS IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT HAS TO GO FURTHER THEN THAT, EVERY RECIPIENT OF MEDICARE OR MEDICARE 2 BENEFITS WOULD HAVE A CONTACT NUMBER ON FILE, PHONE, E-MAIL, GUARDIANS CONTACT INFO ETC. ALL SUSPECTED FRAUD TRANSACTIONS THE CLAIM PROCESSORS WOULD MAKE A CALL TO THE RECIPIENT AND VERIFY THEY RECEIVED THE SERVICE AND IF THE PRODUCT OR SERVICE WAS A NEEDED SERVICE. THE CLAIM PROCESSORS WOULD BE JUST AS A BIG-GA HARD-ASS AS THE SSFI[SOCIAL SECURITY FRAUD INVESTIGATOR] BOTH PROCESSORS AND FRAUD AGENTS WILL BE AS FEARED AS THE IRS. IF YOU ARE CALLED OR VISITED YOU WILL TAKE NOTICE. THIS WILL TAKE MORE MANPOWER, BUT YOU CAN PAY A LOT OF AGENTS AND INVESTIGATORS WITH THE BILLIONS LOST IN FRAUD AND ABUSE. THERE NEEDS TO BE DOCTORS ON THE FRAUD
ABUSE TEAMS CLEAN UP FRAUD AND ABUSE AND YOU WILL CLEAN UP MEDICARE. MEDICAID WILL NEED A SIMILAR OVERHAUL. MEDICAID COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE MEDICARE 2 SYSTEM[PUBLIC OPTION] WHICH THERE WILL BE NO REFORM WITHOUT IT AND YOU KNOW IT. THE STATES WOULD SIMPLY BUY A MEDICARE 2[PUBLIC OPTION] POLICY FOR THE PERSON[S] IN THE STATE THAT NEEDS HELP AT A DISCOUNT FROM THE GOVERNMENT. 50% OF COST ETC. THERE SHOULD BE A SINGLES POLICY AND A FAMILY POLICY. I BELIEVE THE OVER 65 CROWD IS PRETTY CONTENT IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO SHOP FOR A SUPPLEMENT POLICY[ THUS A MEDICARE ADVANTAGE LIKE OVERHAUL FOR MEDICARE. CLEAN UP FRAUD AND ABUSE PLUS DO LESS OR NO CONTRACTING. DO BILLING -PROCESSING- INVESTIGATION ETC IN HOUSE.


Subject: A CITIZENS VIEW OF TAX REFORM THAT IS SIMPLE AND FAIR
I WROTE THIS UP ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO AND HAVE SEEN NOTHING IN 20 YEARS THAT CHANGES MY MIND. - MANY OF OUR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS HAVE A NEW TAX PLAN, BUT NONE ADDRESS THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEMS. FAIRNESS, SIMPLICITY OR ADDRESS THE THE DEBT AND DEFICIT AT THE SAME TIME. I GAVE MY IDEA SOME THOUGHT AND TOOK TWO HOURS OR SO TO PUT IT TOGETHER AND IT TOOK LESS THAN HALF A PAGE TO TYPE IT. CORPORATIONS AND INDIVIDUAL TAXES ARE TO BE TREATED THE SAME I WOULDN'T EXPECT TO BALANCE THE BUDGET COMPLETELY WITH TAX REFORM, BUT SOME REDUCTION IN THE DEFICIT SHOULD BE INCLUDED AND THE DEBT AS WELL THROUGH A NATIONAL DEBT LOTTERY OR DEBT SUR TAX. THE DEFICIT WILL START
TO DROP AS INTEREST PAYMENT'S BECOME LESS. TRIMMING THE BUDGET WOULD CONTINUE. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [A] 10% NATIONAL SALES TAX [FOOD AND PRESCRIPTION MEDICINE EXEMPT] ALSO A 5%SALES TAX INSTEAD OF 10% ON HOMES, AUTOS, TRUCKS AND MOTORIZED FARM EQUIPMENT [B] 10% FLAT TAX [OR PERCENTAGE NEEDED TO OFFSET THE 1O % SALES TAX OVERALL. [C] A NATIONAL LOTTERY WITH 100% PROFITS APPLIED TO THE NATIONAL DEBT. WITH AN OPTION TO ADD A PERCENTAGE TO THE FLAT TAX FOR FURTHER DEBT REDUCTION. [D] $18000 OR ANNUAL POVERTY LEVEL DEDUCTED UP FRONT. WHICHEVER IS LESS . REMEMBER I WROTE THIS YEARS AGO. (E)3,000 PER DEPENDENT DEDUCTED. 6000 IF ENROLLED IN A CREDITED PRIVATE SCHOOL OR
COLLEGE . [F] FAMILY DEDUCTIONS A PERCENTAGE OF HOME MORTGAGE INTEREST DEDUCTED. INCOME CREDITS FOR THE ELDERLY-CHILDREN AND
DISABLED. [G]200% OF ALL LEGAL CHARITABLE CONTRIBUTIONS DEDUCTED. [H]100% OF ALL OUT OF POCKET MEDICAL EXPENSES DEDUCTED. [I]100% OF ALL OUT OF POCKET RETIREMENT PROGRAMS DEDUCTED IF NOT IN AN IRA ETC. i.e. ALREADY RECEIVING TAX FREE RETIREMENT PROGRAM. [J] 20% OF ALL BUSINESS EXPANSIONS DEDUCTED PER YEAR FOR 5 YEARS. ANY EXPANSIONS MUST BE IN THE UNITED STATES AND RELATED TO EXISTING BUSINESS. [K]200% OF ALL ENERGY USED IN BUSINESS TO COVER ENERGY AND REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT COST AS WELL AS DEPRECIATION. [(L] 100% OF ANY DISASTER EXPENSE NOT COVERED BY INSURANCE.
[FIRE-FLOOD-CROPS-ETC. [M] RELIGIOUS AND EDUCATION DEDUCTIONS WILL BE LIMITED TO BUILDING OF WORSHIP AND EDUCATION BUILDINGS.i.e.THEIR INVESTMENT PROPERTIES ETC. NOT DEDUCTIBLE. THE 10% SALES TAX AND 10% FLAT TAX COMBO WOULD REMAIN FIXED-BUT COULD BE MOVED UP OR DOWN 1% BY A SIMPLE MAJORITY.ANY FURTHER REQUIRES A SUPER MAJORITY.ANY MOVEMENT PREFERRED ON THE FLAT SIDE. THIS WOULD BE DONE ONLY IN
EMERGENCIES THE PERCENTAGES I HAVE MENTIONED SHOULD COVER THE BUDGET FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. IF NOT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE RAISED TO MEET AT LEAST A LARGE PORTION OF THE BUDGET. i.e. START OUT REFORM WITH A BALANCED BUDGET WHICH WOULD BE IDEALISTIC. THE NATIONAL DEBT WILL START TO BE TRIMMED WITH A NATIONAL LOTTERY AND /OR ADD A 1% SUR TAX TO THE 10% FLAT TAX TO BE APPLIED ONLY TO THE NATIONAL DEBT.[ A NATIONAL SUR TAX IF YOU
WILL] WITH HOLDING TAX WILL BE KEPT IN PLACE AND EXPANDED TO FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS TO WITH HOLD TAXES ON INTEREST PAYMENTS. ALL INCOME WOULD BE TAXED USING THE 10%/10% 15% over 250,000 FORMULA INCLUDING ALL CAPITAL GAINS. THE FEW DEDUCTIONS ALLOWED ARE NECESSARY FOR STABILIZATION AND IN THE CASE OF CHARITY- TO PROMOTE CHARITABLE
CONTRIBUTIONS. NOTE: WITH A 10% SALES TAX COMBINED WITH A 10% FLAT TAX-THE GOVERNMENT WOULD BE ABLE TO PICK UP ILLEGAL AND HIDDEN MONEY TAXES AS IT IS SPENT. NOTE:WE CAN'T WAIT 5-10 YEARS TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. BY THAT TIME THE INTEREST WILL BE 30 OR 40% OF THE BUDGET. WE NEED TO ACT NOW. [I CAN'T BELIEVE I WAS SAYING THIS 20 YEARS AGO.] ANY TAX REFORM THAT DON'T TACKLE THE DEBT AND ANNUAL DEFICIT AT THE SAME TIME IS DOOMED FOR FAILURE. BY STARTING A NEW TAX PROGRAM- YOU CAN DISGUISE MANY OF THE TAXES AS REDUCTIONS INSTEAD OF IN MANY CASES AN
INCREASE.i.e.THERE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME INCREASE TO GET A HANDLE ON THE DEBT. I BELIEVE MY PROPOSALS ARE MORE REALISTIC -FAIR AND SIMPLER TO UNDERSTAND THAN WHAT I HAVE SEEN FLOATING AROUND ON

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Oct 11, 2015 12:13:30   #
glen10
 
Subject: Democrats need to stand up to the GOP and The No, Hell No and No Idea agenda

DEMOCRATS NEED TO STAND UP TO THE GOP NO AND NO IDEA MACHINE

Subject: DEMOCRATS NEED TO TAKE CONTROL OF THEIR OWN AGENDAS

I believe the problem with democrats is they don't listen. I had written many time about getting the message out of your accomplishments. but not a word . You let the republicans and right wing talk show define what you had done or not done. That should be corrected immediately. Also the Senate should pass or put up for a vote on the 200 plus house bills passed be the House. An up or down vote on each one . No discussion , if so limit to 1 hour per bill. I believe that all so called controversy bills should be brought up and voted on the same way. An assembly line of bills if you will.Don't ask don't tell repeal, cap and trade, immigration dream plan as a public option for the health care bill and the health care bill needs to be moved up as to the implementation. On Jan. first as you pass your new rules, have the V. President declare the cloture rule unconstitutional and go for an up or down vote with 51% . Or you can continue to let the Republicans crap all over you.

ALSO : AN APPROACH TO SS AND MEDICARE/MEDICAID.
SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE/MEDICAID

Subject: SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE/MEDICAID MADE SIMPLE
SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE I BELIEVE ARE SIMPLE TO REFORM. FIRST YOU DON'T WANT TO HURT THE OUTCOME AND TO REVERSE THE TREND. THEY BOTH NEED TO BE RUN LIKE A BUSINESS AND USE GOOD BUSINESS MODELS TO RESTRUCTURE. *[FIRST SOCIAL SECURITY]-----I BELIEVE SOCIAL SECURITY NEEDS TO BE BROKEN UP IN TO 2 DIVISIONS, ONE PART LEAVE

SOCIAL SECURITY AS IS MOVING THE CUTOFF LEVEL FROM 115.000 TO ONE MILLION OR10 MILLION OR WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO MAKE IT SOLVENT FOREVER., THE OTHER MAKE MORE LIKE A MUTUAL FUND. TAKE 10% THE FIRST 2 YEARS AND INVEST IN TO S&P 500. THE 3RD. 4TH AND 5TH YEARS INCREASE THAT AMOUNT 5% EA OF THE NEXT 3 YEARS WITH A TOTAL OF 25% OF SOCIAL MONIES INVESTED IN TO THE S&P 500. EVERYONE WILL BENEFIT FROM THE 75%-25% RATIO. FOR YOUNGER INVESTOR, THEY CAN INVEST INTO THIS SOCIAL SECURITY MUTUAL FUND LIKE ANY OTHER MUTUAL FUND FOR AN ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS PORTFOLIO. IT WOULD BE A TAX FREE INVESTMENT LIKE AN IRA. OR ROTH. THERE WOULD BE A SPECIAL PANEL SET UP MANAGE THE FUND. THIS WOULD GIVE
ADDITIONAL MONEY COMING INTO THE SS FUND. THE GOVERNMENT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BORROW FROM THIS FUND[25% PORTION OF IT]. I AM NOT SMART ENOUGH TO WORK ALL THE DETAILS OUT, BUT IT WOULD INCREASE SOLVENCY AND HOPEFULLY BENEFITS PAYMENTS. AFTER INTEREST WAS PAID TO THE SS MUTUAL PLAN WERE, THEN THE PROFITS OF THE PLAN WOULD BE PLOWED INTO THE OVERALL STANDARD SOCIAL SECURITY KITTY. *[SECOND MEDICARE AND MEDICAID]----------MEDICARE NEEDS TO BE MORE LIKE A MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PLAN BENEFIT PACKAGE ELIMINATION THE NEED FOR OUTSIDE CONTRACTING OF BENEFITS. ALL MEDICARE AND MEDICAID NEED TO BE DONE IN HOUSE. THIS WOULD ELIMINATE A LOT OF FRAUD AND WASTE. THERE SHOULD BE A MEDICARE ADVANGE 2 IN THE WORKS FOR PEOPLE UNDER 65. IT SHOULD BE THE SAME TYPE OF COVERAGE[THE PUBLIC OPTION IF YOU WILL]IT WAS STUPID TO TAKE IT OFF THE HEALTH CARE BILL. IT APPEARS THAT MAYBE AS HIGH AS 80 %+ OF MEDICARE EXPENSE IS FRAUD AND WASTE,HOSPITAL, DOCTORS- NURSING HOMES-INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTING-THOUSANDS OF STORE FRONT FRAUD OPERATIONS AND THE LIST GOES ON. HOW DO YOU STOP IT? YOU ARM YOUR SELF WITH A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY THAT IS TOUGH AND THE PENALTY IS HIGH ENOUGH TO DISCOURAGE VIOLATORS IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT HAS TO GO FURTHER THEN THAT, EVERY RECIPIENT OF MEDICARE OR MEDICARE 2 BENEFITS WOULD HAVE A CONTACT NUMBER ON FILE, PHONE, E-MAIL, GUARDIANS CONTACT INFO ETC. ALL SUSPECTED FRAUD TRANSACTIONS THE CLAIM PROCESSORS WOULD MAKE A CALL TO THE RECIPIENT AND VERIFY THEY RECEIVED THE SERVICE AND IF THE PRODUCT OR SERVICE WAS A NEEDED SERVICE. THE CLAIM PROCESSORS WOULD BE JUST AS A BIG-GA HARD-ASS AS THE SSFI[SOCIAL SECURITY FRAUD INVESTIGATOR] BOTH PROCESSORS AND FRAUD AGENTS WILL BE AS FEARED AS THE IRS. IF YOU ARE CALLED OR VISITED YOU WILL TAKE NOTICE. THIS WILL TAKE MORE MANPOWER, BUT YOU CAN PAY A LOT OF AGENTS AND INVESTIGATORS WITH THE BILLIONS LOST IN FRAUD AND ABUSE. THERE NEEDS TO BE DOCTORS ON THE FRAUD
ABUSE TEAMS CLEAN UP FRAUD AND ABUSE AND YOU WILL CLEAN UP MEDICARE. MEDICAID WILL NEED A SIMILAR OVERHAUL. MEDICAID COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE MEDICARE 2 SYSTEM[PUBLIC OPTION] WHICH THERE WILL BE NO REFORM WITHOUT IT AND YOU KNOW IT. THE STATES WOULD SIMPLY BUY A MEDICARE 2[PUBLIC OPTION] POLICY FOR THE PERSON[S] IN THE STATE THAT NEEDS HELP AT A DISCOUNT FROM THE GOVERNMENT. 50% OF COST ETC. THERE SHOULD BE A SINGLES POLICY AND A FAMILY POLICY. I BELIEVE THE OVER 65 CROWD IS PRETTY CONTENT IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO SHOP FOR A SUPPLEMENT POLICY[ THUS A MEDICARE ADVANTAGE LIKE OVERHAUL FOR MEDICARE. CLEAN UP FRAUD AND ABUSE PLUS DO LESS OR NO CONTRACTING. DO BILLING -PROCESSING- INVESTIGATION ETC IN HOUSE.

Subject: A CITIZENS VIEW OF TAX REFORM THAT IS SIMPLE AND FAIR
I WROTE THIS UP ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO AND HAVE SEEN NOTHING IN 20 YEARS THAT CHANGES MY MIND. MANY OF OUR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS HAVE A NEW TAX PLAN, BUT NONE ADDRESS THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEMS. FAIRNESS, SIMPLICITY OR ADDRESS THE THE DEBT AND DEFICIT AT THE SAME TIME. I GAVE MY IDEA SOME THOUGHT AND TOOK TWO HOURS OR SO TO PUT IT TOGETHER AND IT TOOK LESS THAN HALF A PAGE TO TYPE IT. CORPORATIONS AND INDIVIDUAL TAXES ARE TO BE TREATED THE SAME I WOULDN'T EXPECT TO BALANCE THE BUDGET COMPLETELY WITH TAX REFORM, BUT SOME REDUCTION IN THE DEFICIT SHOULD BE INCLUDED AND THE DEBT AS WELL THROUGH A NATIONAL DEBT LOTTERY OR DEBT SUR TAX. THE DEFICIT WILL START
TO DROP AS INTEREST PAYMENT'S BECOME LESS. TRIMMING THE BUDGET WOULD CONTINUE. [A] 10% NATIONAL SALES TAX [FOOD AND PRESCRIPTION MEDICINE EXEMPT] ALSO A 5%SALES TAX INSTEAD OF 10% ON HOMES, AUTOS, TRUCKS AND MOTORIZED FARM EQUIPMENT [B] 10% FLAT TAX [OR PERCENTAGE NEEDED TO OFFSET THE 1O % SALES TAX . 15% FOR INCOME OVER 500,000 ANNUALLY OVERALL. [C] A NATIONAL LOTTERY WITH 100% PROFITS APPLIED TO THE NATIONAL DEBT. WITH AN OPTION TO ADD A PERCENTAGE TO THE FLAT TAX FOR FURTHER DEBT REDUCTION. [D] $18000 OR ANNUAL POVERTY LEVEL DEDUCTED UP FRONT. WHICHEVER IS LESS . REMEMBER I WROTE THIS YEARS AGO. (E)3,000 PER DEPENDENT DEDUCTED. 6000 IF ENROLLED IN A CREDITED PRIVATE SCHOOL OR
COLLEGE . [F] FAMILY DEDUCTIONS A PERCENTAGE OF HOME MORTGAGE INTEREST DEDUCTED. INCOME CREDITS FOR THE ELDERLY-CHILDREN AND
DISABLED. [G]200% OF ALL LEGAL CHARITABLE CONTRIBUTIONS DEDUCTED. [H]100% OF ALL OUT OF POCKET MEDICAL EXPENSES DEDUCTED. [I]100% OF ALL OUT OF POCKET RETIREMENT PROGRAMS DEDUCTED IF NOT IN AN IRA ETC. i.e. ALREADY RECEIVING TAX FREE RETIREMENT PROGRAM. [J] 20% OF ALL BUSINESS EXPANSIONS DEDUCTED PER YEAR FOR 5 YEARS. ANY EXPANSIONS MUST BE IN THE UNITED STATES AND RELATED TO EXISTING BUSINESS. [K]200% OF ALL ENERGY USED IN BUSINESS TO COVER ENERGY AND REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT COST AS WELL AS DEPRECIATION. [(L] 100% OF ANY DISASTER EXPENSE NOT COVERED BY INSURANCE.
[FIRE-FLOOD-CROPS-ETC. [M] RELIGIOUS AND EDUCATION DEDUCTIONS WILL BE LIMITED TO BUILDING OF WORSHIP AND EDUCATION BUILDINGS.i.e.THEIR INVESTMENT PROPERTIES ETC. NOT DEDUCTIBLE. THE 10% SALES TAX AND 10% FLAT TAX COMBO WOULD REMAIN FIXED-BUT COULD BE MOVED UP OR DOWN 1% BY A SIMPLE MAJORITY.ANY FURTHER REQUIRES A SUPER MAJORITY.ANY MOVEMENT PREFERRED ON THE FLAT SIDE. THIS WOULD BE DONE ONLY IN
EMERGENCIES THE PERCENTAGES I HAVE MENTIONED SHOULD COVER THE BUDGET FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. IF NOT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE RAISED TO MEET AT LEAST A LARGE PORTION OF THE BUDGET. i.e. START OUT REFORM WITH A BALANCED BUDGET WHICH WOULD BE IDEALISTIC. THE NATIONAL DEBT WILL START TO BE TRIMMED WITH A NATIONAL LOTTERY AND /OR ADD A 1% SUR TAX TO THE 10% FLAT TAX TO BE APPLIED ONLY TO THE NATIONAL DEBT.[ A NATIONAL SUR TAX IF YOU
WILL] WITH HOLDING TAX WILL BE KEPT IN PLACE AND EXPANDED TO FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS TO WITH HOLD TAXES ON INTEREST PAYMENTS. ALL INCOME WOULD BE TAXED USING THE 10%/10% 15% over 500,000 FORMULA INCLUDING ALL CAPITAL GAINS. THE FEW DEDUCTIONS ALLOWED ARE NECESSARY FOR STABILIZATION AND IN THE CASE OF CHARITY- TO PROMOTE CHARITABLE
CONTRIBUTIONS. NOTE: WITH A 10% SALES TAX COMBINED WITH A 10% FLAT TAX-THE GOVERNMENT WOULD BE ABLE TO PICK UP ILLEGAL AND HIDDEN MONEY TAXES AS IT IS SPENT. NOTE:WE CAN'T WAIT 5-10 YEARS TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. BY THAT TIME THE INTEREST WILL BE 30 OR 40% OF THE BUDGET. WE NEED TO ACT NOW. [I CAN'T BELIEVE I WAS SAYING THIS 20 YEARS AGO.] ANY TAX REFORM THAT DON'T TACKLE THE DEBT AND ANNUAL DEFICIT AT THE SAME TIME IS DOOMED FOR FAILURE. BY STARTING A NEW TAX PROGRAM- YOU CAN DISGUISE MANY OF THE TAXES AS REDUCTIONS INSTEAD OF IN MANY CASES AN
INCREASE.i.e.THERE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME INCREASE TO GET A HANDLE ON THE DEBT. I BELIEVE MY PROPOSALS ARE MORE REALISTIC -FAIR AND SIMPLER TO UNDERSTAND THAN WHAT I HAVE SEEN FLOATING AROUND ON

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Oct 11, 2015 12:25:27   #
glen10
 
Fema camps aren't a myth but they are not what you are portraying. They are mostly former army camps that are stock with food and other needs for a disaster in the US. They are strategy located around the nation . The point is they don't want to wait until something happens. they want to be prepared to go into action on day one. The right wing conspiracy nuts want to make something out of it that's fits into their fear tactic conspiracies.

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Oct 11, 2015 12:49:03   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
If in fact ObamaCare is so great why doesn't Obama and all of congress have it? Even my democratic congressman finally admitted he and his staff have another plan, guess your too stupid!



Bad Bob wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Oct 11, 2015 12:57:35   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
How about congress just wakes to hell up and get it back to the SS fund and out of the general fund where they can spend if freely. Bush wanted to free that money up into individual accounts and depending on your age the type of account but no the democrats wouldn't go for that, the people controlling their own money?



[quote=glen10]Subject: Democrats need to stand up to the GOP and The No, Hell No and No Idea agenda

DEMOCRATS NEED TO STAND UP TO THE GOP NO AND NO IDEA MACHINE

Subject: DEMOCRATS NEED TO TAKE CONTROL OF THEIR OWN AGENDAS

I believe the problem with democrats is they don't listen. I had written many time about getting the message out of your accomplishments. but not a word . You let the republicans and right wing talk show define what you had done or not done. That should be corrected immediately. Also the Senate should pass or put up for a vote on the 200 plus house bills passed be the House. An up or down vote on each one . No discussion , if so limit to 1 hour per bill. I believe that all so called controversy bills should be brought up and voted on the same way. An assembly line of bills if you will.Don't ask don't tell repeal, cap and trade, immigration dream plan as a public option for the health care bill and the health care bill needs to be moved up as to the implementation. On Jan. first as you pass your new rules, have the V. President declare the cloture rule unconstitutional and go for an up or down vote with 51% . Or you can continue to let the Republicans crap all over you.

ALSO : AN APPROACH TO SS AND MEDICARE/MEDICAID.
SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE/MEDICAID

Subject: SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE/MEDICAID MADE SIMPLE
SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE I BELIEVE ARE SIMPLE TO REFORM. FIRST YOU DON'T WANT TO HURT THE OUTCOME AND TO REVERSE THE TREND. THEY BOTH NEED TO BE RUN LIKE A BUSINESS AND USE GOOD BUSINESS MODELS TO RESTRUCTURE. *[FIRST SOCIAL SECURITY]-----I BELIEVE SOCIAL SECURITY NEEDS TO BE BROKEN UP IN TO 2 DIVISIONS, ONE PART LEAVE MEDICARE AS IS, THE OTHER MAKE MORE LIKE A MUTUAL FUND. TAKE 10% THE FIRST 2 YEARS AND INVEST IN TO S&P 500. THE 3RD. 4TH AND 5TH YEARS INCREASE THAT AMOUNT 5% EA OF THE NEXT 3 YEARS WITH A TOTAL OF 25% OF SOCIAL MONIES INVESTED IN TO THE S&P 500. EVERYONE WILL BENEFIT FROM THE 75%-25% RATIO. FOR YOUNGER INVESTOR, THEY CAN INVEST INTO THIS SOCIAL SECURITY MUTUAL FUND LIKE ANY OTHER MUTUAL FUND FOR AN ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS PORTFOLIO. IT WOULD BE A TAX FREE INVESTMENT LIKE AN IRA. OR ROTH. THERE WOULD BE A SPECIAL PANEL SET UP MANAGE THE FUND. THIS WOULD GIVE
ADDITIONAL MONEY COMING INTO THE SS FUND. THE GOVERNMENT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BORROW FROM THIS FUND[25% PORTION OF IT]. I AM NOT SMART ENOUGH TO WORK ALL THE DETAILS OUT, BUT IT WOULD INCREASE SOLVENCY AND HOPEFULLY BENEFITS PAYMENTS. AFTER INTEREST WAS PAID TO THE SS MUTUAL PLAN WERE, THEN THE PROFITS OF THE PLAN WOULD BE PLOWED INTO THE OVERALL STANDARD SOCIAL SECURITY KITTY. *[SECOND MEDICARE AND MEDICAID]----------MEDICARE NEEDS TO BE MORE LIKE A MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PLAN BENEFIT PACKAGE ELIMINATION THE NEED FOR OUTSIDE CONTRACTING OF BENEFITS. ALL MEDICARE AND MEDICAID NEED TO BE DONE IN HOUSE. THIS WOULD ELIMINATE A LOT OF FRAUD AND WASTE. THERE SHOULD BE A MEDICARE 2 IN THE WORKS FOR PEOPLE UNDER 65. IT SHOULD BE THE SAME TYPE OF COVERAGE[THE PUBLIC OPTION IF YOU WILL]IT WAS STUPID TO TAKE IT OFF THE HEALTH CARE BILL. IT APPEARS THAT MAYBE AS HIGH AS 80 %+ OF MEDICARE EXPENSE IS FRAUD AND WASTE,HOSPITAL, DOCTORS- NURSING HOMES-INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTING-THOUSANDS OF STORE FRONT FRAUD OPERATIONS AND THE LIST GOES ON. HOW DO YOU STOP IT? YOU ARM YOUR SELF WITH A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY THAT IS TOUGH AND THE PENALTY IS HIGH ENOUGH TO DISCOURAGE VIOLATORS IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT HAS TO GO FURTHER THEN THAT, EVERY RECIPIENT OF MEDICARE OR MEDICARE 2 BENEFITS WOULD HAVE A CONTACT NUMBER ON FILE, PHONE, E-MAIL, GUARDIANS CONTACT INFO ETC. ALL SUSPECTED FRAUD TRANSACTIONS THE CLAIM PROCESSORS WOULD MAKE A CALL TO THE RECIPIENT AND VERIFY THEY RECEIVED THE SERVICE AND IF THE PRODUCT OR SERVICE WAS A NEEDED SERVICE. THE CLAIM PROCESSORS WOULD BE JUST AS A BIG-GA HARD-ASS AS THE SSFI[SOCIAL SECURITY FRAUD INVESTIGATOR] BOTH PROCESSORS AND FRAUD AGENTS WILL BE AS FEARED AS THE IRS. IF YOU ARE CALLED OR VISITED YOU WILL TAKE NOTICE. THIS WILL TAKE MORE MANPOWER, BUT YOU CAN PAY A LOT OF AGENTS AND INVESTIGATORS WITH THE BILLIONS LOST IN FRAUD AND ABUSE. THERE NEEDS TO BE DOCTORS ON THE FRAUD
ABUSE TEAMS CLEAN UP FRAUD AND ABUSE AND YOU WILL CLEAN UP MEDICARE. MEDICAID WILL NEED A SIMILAR OVERHAUL. MEDICAID COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE MEDICARE 2 SYSTEM[PUBLIC OPTION] WHICH THERE WILL BE NO REFORM WITHOUT IT AND YOU KNOW IT. THE STATES WOULD SIMPLY BUY A MEDICARE 2[PUBLIC OPTION] POLICY FOR THE PERSON[S] IN THE STATE THAT NEEDS HELP AT A DISCOUNT FROM THE GOVERNMENT. 50% OF COST ETC. THERE SHOULD BE A SINGLES POLICY AND A FAMILY POLICY. I BELIEVE THE OVER 65 CROWD IS PRETTY CONTENT IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO SHOP FOR A SUPPLEMENT POLICY[ THUS A MEDICARE ADVANTAGE LIKE OVERHAUL FOR MEDICARE. CLEAN UP FRAUD AND ABUSE PLUS DO LESS OR NO CONTRACTING. DO BILLING -PROCESSING- INVESTIGATION ETC IN HOUSE.


Subject: A CITIZENS VIEW OF TAX REFORM THAT IS SIMPLE AND FAIR
I WROTE THIS UP ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO AND HAVE SEEN NOTHING IN 20 YEARS THAT CHANGES MY MIND. - MANY OF OUR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS HAVE A NEW TAX PLAN, BUT NONE ADDRESS THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEMS. FAIRNESS, SIMPLICITY OR ADDRESS THE THE DEBT AND DEFICIT AT THE SAME TIME. I GAVE MY IDEA SOME THOUGHT AND TOOK TWO HOURS OR SO TO PUT IT TOGETHER AND IT TOOK LESS THAN HALF A PAGE TO TYPE IT. CORPORATIONS AND INDIVIDUAL TAXES ARE TO BE TREATED THE SAME I WOULDN'T EXPECT TO BALANCE THE BUDGET COMPLETELY WITH TAX REFORM, BUT SOME REDUCTION IN THE DEFICIT SHOULD BE INCLUDED AND THE DEBT AS WELL THROUGH A NATIONAL DEBT LOTTERY OR DEBT SUR TAX. THE DEFICIT WILL START
TO DROP AS INTEREST PAYMENT'S BECOME LESS. TRIMMING THE BUDGET WOULD CONTINUE. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [A] 10% NATIONAL SALES TAX [FOOD AND PRESCRIPTION MEDICINE EXEMPT] ALSO A 5%SALES TAX INSTEAD OF 10% ON HOMES, AUTOS, TRUCKS AND MOTORIZED FARM EQUIPMENT [B] 10% FLAT TAX [OR PERCENTAGE NEEDED TO OFFSET THE 1O % SALES TAX OVERALL. [C] A NATIONAL LOTTERY WITH 100% PROFITS APPLIED TO THE NATIONAL DEBT. WITH AN OPTION TO ADD A PERCENTAGE TO THE FLAT TAX FOR FURTHER DEBT REDUCTION. [D] $18000 OR ANNUAL POVERTY LEVEL DEDUCTED UP FRONT. WHICHEVER IS LESS . REMEMBER I WROTE THIS YEARS AGO. (E)3,000 PER DEPENDENT DEDUCTED. 6000 IF ENROLLED IN A CREDITED PRIVATE SCHOOL OR
COLLEGE . [F] FAMILY DEDUCTIONS A PERCENTAGE OF HOME MORTGAGE INTEREST DEDUCTED. INCOME CREDITS FOR THE ELDERLY-CHILDREN AND
DISABLED. [G]200% OF ALL LEGAL CHARITABLE CONTRIBUTIONS DEDUCTED. [H]100% OF ALL OUT OF POCKET MEDICAL EXPENSES DEDUCTED. [I]100% OF ALL OUT OF POCKET RETIREMENT PROGRAMS DEDUCTED IF NOT IN AN IRA ETC. i.e. ALREADY RECEIVING TAX FREE RETIREMENT PROGRAM. [J] 20% OF ALL BUSINESS EXPANSIONS DEDUCTED PER YEAR FOR 5 YEARS. ANY EXPANSIONS MUST BE IN THE UNITED STATES AND RELATED TO EXISTING BUSINESS. [K]200% OF ALL ENERGY USED IN BUSINESS TO COVER ENERGY AND REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT COST AS WELL AS DEPRECIATION. [(L] 100% OF ANY DISASTER EXPENSE NOT COVERED BY INSURANCE.
[FIRE-FLOOD-CROPS-ETC. [M] RELIGIOUS AND EDUCATION DEDUCTIONS WILL BE LIMITED TO BUILDING OF WORSHIP AND EDUCATION BUILDINGS.i.e.THEIR INVESTMENT PROPERTIES ETC. NOT DEDUCTIBLE. THE 10% SALES TAX AND 10% FLAT TAX COMBO WOULD REMAIN FIXED-BUT COULD BE MOVED UP OR DOWN 1% BY A SIMPLE MAJORITY.ANY FURTHER REQUIRES A SUPER MAJORITY.ANY MOVEMENT PREFERRED ON THE FLAT SIDE. THIS WOULD BE DONE ONLY IN
EMERGENCIES THE PERCENTAGES I HAVE MENTIONED SHOULD COVER THE BUDGET FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. IF NOT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE RAISED TO MEET AT LEAST A LARGE PORTION OF THE BUDGET. i.e. START OUT REFORM WITH A BALANCED BUDGET WHICH WOULD BE IDEALISTIC. THE NATIONAL DEBT WILL START TO BE TRIMMED WITH A NATIONAL LOTTERY AND /OR ADD A 1% SUR TAX TO THE 10% FLAT TAX TO BE APPLIED ONLY TO THE NATIONAL DEBT.[ A NATIONAL SUR TAX IF YOU
WILL] WITH HOLDING TAX WILL BE KEPT IN PLACE AND EXPANDED TO FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS TO WITH HOLD TAXES ON INTEREST PAYMENTS. ALL INCOME WOULD BE TAXED USING THE 10%/10% 15% over 250,000 FORMULA INCLUDING ALL CAPITAL GAINS. THE FEW DEDUCTIONS ALLOWED ARE NECESSARY FOR STABILIZATION AND IN THE CASE OF CHARITY- TO PROMOTE CHARITABLE
CONTRIBUTIONS. NOTE: WITH A 10% SALES TAX COMBINED WITH A 10% FLAT TAX-THE GOVERNMENT WOULD BE ABLE TO PICK UP ILLEGAL AND HIDDEN MONEY TAXES AS IT IS SPENT. NOTE:WE CAN'T WAIT 5-10 YEARS TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. BY THAT TIME THE INTEREST WILL BE 30 OR 40% OF THE BUDGET. WE NEED TO ACT NOW. [I CAN'T BELIEVE I WAS SAYING THIS 20 YEARS AGO.] ANY TAX REFORM THAT DON'T TACKLE THE DEBT AND ANNUAL DEFICIT AT THE SAME TIME IS DOOMED FOR FAILURE. BY STARTING A NEW TAX PROGRAM- YOU CAN DISGUISE MANY OF THE TAXES AS REDUCTIONS INSTEAD OF IN MANY CASES AN
INCREASE.i.e.THERE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME INCREASE TO GET A HANDLE ON THE DEBT. I BELIEVE MY PROPOSALS ARE MORE REALISTIC -FAIR AND SIMPLER TO UNDERSTAND THAN WHAT I HAVE SEEN FLOATING AROUND ON[/quote]

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