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Just Who is trying to save the Country & for Who.
Sep 28, 2015 13:04:11   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
To quote:
"We conservatives are trying to save this country, you liberal socialists can't destroy it fast enough."

I have no doubt that you are trying to save the country for your self & others that think like you.

But most of you would destroy much of what we have to get you hands on more.

I fail to see how it is okay to use the system to get & keep more but how some feel that having more is only good for some & bad when others wish to be a part of the system.

Just where is the line to be drawn between the two sides of this issue & who gets to draw the line.

I am above the line but each day I get a bit closer to it. Just where are you on that line? I was higher on the list before but now I am closer to the bottom than I was before. All the while having played the game like a good guy should.

I have no wish to have more nor do I wish to have less. I am quite content with what I have.

There are just too many that have enough that wish to have more.

The real bad guys are not the people down on the street.
If you wish to find who the bad guys are, follow the money.

Most of just exist to pass on the rewards of the system to those at the top.

I don't know just where you stand in the money game but I find my self in the middle. I don't look at as having to pay taxes need to hold the Nation together as a burden. It is what we all need to do.

If those that have more to pass up life becomes easier for most of Us. When we have what we have today in there not being as much money to pass up most of Us have to do with less.

I say it is important that every one have a little left over after they meet their basic needs to be a part of the system & the gains of the system.

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Sep 28, 2015 16:41:03   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
To quote:
"We conservatives are trying to save this country, you liberal socialists can't destroy it fast enough."

I have no doubt that you are trying to save the country for your self & others that think like you.

But most of you would destroy much of what we have to get you hands on more.

I fail to see how it is okay to use the system to get & keep more but how some feel that having more is only good for some & bad when others wish to be a part of the system.

Just where is the line to be drawn between the two sides of this issue & who gets to draw the line.

I am above the line but each day I get a bit closer to it. Just where are you on that line? I was higher on the list before but now I am closer to the bottom than I was before. All the while having played the game like a good guy should.

I have no wish to have more nor do I wish to have less. I am quite content with what I have.

There are just too many that have enough that wish to have more.

The real bad guys are not the people down on the street.
If you wish to find who the bad guys are, follow the money.

Most of just exist to pass on the rewards of the system to those at the top.

I don't know just where you stand in the money game but I find my self in the middle. I don't look at as having to pay taxes need to hold the Nation together as a burden. It is what we all need to do.

If those that have more to pass up life becomes easier for most of Us. When we have what we have today in there not being as much money to pass up most of Us have to do with less.

I say it is important that every one have a little left over after they meet their basic needs to be a part of the system & the gains of the system.
To quote: br "We conservatives are try... (show quote)


Oh! We use different definitions for the same thing - depending on who we're talking about. Here's an example;

Earned Income Credit, for poor people trying to raise a child - SOCIALISM, billion dollar tax exemptions for multi billion dollar oil and gas companies - CAPITALISM.

Social Security, that barely covers minimum expenses, for people who worked their whole lives and paid in - ENTITLEMENT/SOCIALISM, Federal retirement for Congress persons, which is lifetime, full working salary, after only 6 years of service - THEY EARNED IT/CAPITALISM.

Food stamps and other nutrition programs, for folks who would starve otherwise - ENTITLEMENT/SOCIALISM, Multi million dollar compensation packages for CEO's of large corporations, that are 25 times higher than their employees average wage - CAPITALISM.

The thing is, simply changing the name from socialism to capitalism, would change the entire tune of folks talking about these issues. We have been programmed to shudder and shake our fists, anytime the word SOCIALISM is mentioned and we never look beyond the emotion to see what's REALLY going on. Similarly, we are programmed to have our eyes widen, our hearts rates increase, anytime the word CAPITALISM is spoken, as we've ALSO been programmed to believe that this is the epitome of the American dream - and that with a little hard work - we too can become capitalists, get lots of money and tell the "little" people what to do.

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Sep 28, 2015 22:21:04   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Oh! We use different definitions for the same thing - depending on who we're talking about. Here's an example;

Earned Income Credit, for poor people trying to raise a child - SOCIALISM, billion dollar tax exemptions for multi billion dollar oil and gas companies - CAPITALISM.

Social Security, that barely covers minimum expenses, for people who worked their whole lives and paid in - ENTITLEMENT/SOCIALISM, Federal retirement for Congress persons, which is lifetime, full working salary, after only 6 years of service - THEY EARNED IT/CAPITALISM.

Food stamps and other nutrition programs, for folks who would starve otherwise - ENTITLEMENT/SOCIALISM, Multi million dollar compensation packages for CEO's of large corporations, that are 25 times higher than their employees average wage - CAPITALISM.

The thing is, simply changing the name from socialism to capitalism, would change the entire tune of folks talking about these issues. We have been programmed to shudder and shake our fists, anytime the word SOCIALISM is mentioned and we never look beyond the emotion to see what's REALLY going on. Similarly, we are programmed to have our eyes widen, our hearts rates increase, anytime the word CAPITALISM is spoken, as we've ALSO been programmed to believe that this is the epitome of the American dream - and that with a little hard work - we too can become capitalists, get lots of money and tell the "little" people what to do.
Oh! We use different definitions for the same thin... (show quote)


I think that there are just too many on the Right that fail to get it that there are many who have Liberal views. A way of life that is better if more people can live & have the American
Dream.

A view of life by some who can only take comfort in the fact that they have more than some others. Then life is fine & they don't wish to see where their problems really come from.

Not realizing that their life could be better but at least no worse than it is now.

There are those who know that if wages & benefits for the less well off are better, every one else can be better off also.

So I feel that there are those with such deep fears of their own inability to get by on a some what even playing field.

Some how they must not believe there can be people that can do well on the same field as them & not need to suck up to others to fix the game.

I have said what I believe & I read what you have to say & can only come up & say that is the World I wish to live in.

The World as we see it is a World that perhaps is only a few changes away from where we are now.

A Wold of trust in our self, trusting others & living a life that others can trust in Us.

Now we have both read what each has had to say.

I feel that it may only be in my mind but I feel that there is an increase in more people getting what we have to say

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