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Sep 8, 2015 12:50:30   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
If you truly wish to have me look at my liberal views as being the coming case for the Agenda 21 you are looking at it all wrong. It is not now nor ever will be about being a right or left issue. The being right or left is a smoke screen to keep us divided while those in control do what ever they wish to gather more power.

What we are facing is a world of Anarchy or a world under an Oligarchy.

Unless we as individuals can become United with a plan to protect what we deem best about our way of live we all will lose.

If our voices are not United in saving as much as we can of what we have. Then the path the world is on will be the one we do not want.

If we do mot help the powers that are in control we will be terrorists to them. We will be the enemy.

We may well end up on opposite sides in the coming war.
Even though we may wish for much of the same personal goals in life.

There need not be fighting & killing to bring about changes to bring about a lasting peace & understanding of what is needed to bring that about.

The issue is all about the few who wish to have complete control over every thing.

I can live with you much as we do today. I don't want to have control over you personal life. But can you be sure that those that seek greater control will leave you the space to live your life with the freedoms you now have?

Will you agree to do what is wanted from you to extend the control of others to bring about the changes needed to control the likes of me?

Our future may be better or it may be worse.

It will be better for us if we can stand together in seeking the changes needed to protect the rights we deserve.

I don't know about you but at 78 I will just be so much collateral damage.

Speaking out against going to war may well mean that by doing so may make me an enemy of the state.

It is a sad state of affairs that one who would speak out for saving most of what we now have could be seem as an enemy of the state.

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Sep 8, 2015 14:06:38   #
Ve'hoe
 
I hope,,,, that in the coming conflagration,,,, the sick and twisted leftists who set this ball rolling,,, desiring "change" for no particular reason,,, when they didnt even know what was going on,,,,,,,,,


Are the first casualties.....


I do not forgive your assinine plotting, planning and scheming who brought us to this brink...


Floyd Brown wrote:
If you truly wish to have me look at my liberal views as being the coming case for the Agenda 21 you are looking at it all wrong. It is not now nor ever will be about being a right or left issue. The being right or left is a smoke screen to keep us divided while those in control do what ever they wish to gather more power.

What we are facing is a world of Anarchy or a world under an Oligarchy.

Unless we as individuals can become United with a plan to protect what we deem best about our way of live we all will lose.

If our voices are not United in saving as much as we can of what we have. Then the path the world is on will be the one we do not want.

If we do mot help the powers that are in control we will be terrorists to them. We will be the enemy.

We may well end up on opposite sides in the coming war.
Even though we may wish for much of the same personal goals in life.

There need not be fighting & killing to bring about changes to bring about a lasting peace & understanding of what is needed to bring that about.

The issue is all about the few who wish to have complete control over every thing.

I can live with you much as we do today. I don't want to have control over you personal life. But can you be sure that those that seek greater control will leave you the space to live your life with the freedoms you now have?

Will you agree to do what is wanted from you to extend the control of others to bring about the changes needed to control the likes of me?

Our future may be better or it may be worse.

It will be better for us if we can stand together in seeking the changes needed to protect the rights we deserve.

I don't know about you but at 78 I will just be so much collateral damage.

Speaking out against going to war may well mean that by doing so may make me an enemy of the state.

It is a sad state of affairs that one who would speak out for saving most of what we now have could be seem as an enemy of the state.
If you truly wish to have me look at my liberal vi... (show quote)

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Sep 8, 2015 14:37:34   #
jeff smith
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
If you truly wish to have me look at my liberal views as being the coming case for the Agenda 21 you are looking at it all wrong. It is not now nor ever will be about being a right or left issue. The being right or left is a smoke screen to keep us divided while those in control do what ever they wish to gather more power.

What we are facing is a world of Anarchy or a world under an Oligarchy.

Unless we as individuals can become United with a plan to protect what we deem best about our way of live we all will lose.

If our voices are not United in saving as much as we can of what we have. Then the path the world is on will be the one we do not want.

If we do mot help the powers that are in control we will be terrorists to them. We will be the enemy.

We may well end up on opposite sides in the coming war.
Even though we may wish for much of the same personal goals in life.

There need not be fighting & killing to bring about changes to bring about a lasting peace & understanding of what is needed to bring that about.

The issue is all about the few who wish to have complete control over every thing.

I can live with you much as we do today. I don't want to have control over you personal life. But can you be sure that those that seek greater control will leave you the space to live your life with the freedoms you now have?

Will you agree to do what is wanted from you to extend the control of others to bring about the changes needed to control the likes of me?

Our future may be better or it may be worse.

It will be better for us if we can stand together in seeking the changes needed to protect the rights we deserve.

I don't know about you but at 78 I will just be so much collateral damage.

Speaking out against going to war may well mean that by doing so may make me an enemy of the state.

It is a sad state of affairs that one who would speak out for saving most of what we now have could be seem as an enemy of the state.
If you truly wish to have me look at my liberal vi... (show quote)

there will come a day when all free thinking people will be considered enemies of the state. the very few at the top who want full and complete control, will feel threatened, if a person or a group of people start to talk of excersizing their will to think, their wanting more of anything, food, movement, property, what ever a person may desire, there will be resistance and denial, from those in control. if they would allow you any of these then there will come a day that you would want even more. this can not be allowed. you can have what we say you can have and NOTHING MORE. this is the CHANGE that some people have slowly already started. like you said it is not a left or right thing it is the PUPPET MASTERS, pulling every ones strings. the richest of the rich thinking that they know what would be best for every body else. politition, make this happen, slowly but surely step by step, they gain control.

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Sep 9, 2015 10:07:01   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
I hope,,,, that in the coming conflagration,,,, the sick and twisted leftists who set this ball rolling,,, desiring "change" for no particular reason,,, when they didnt even know what was going on,,,,,,,,,


Are the first casualties.....


I do not forgive your assinine plotting, planning and scheming who brought us to this brink...


If you think that I am plotting & planning against you ,you are so far off base that I can only feel sad for you.

As more & more power is in fewer hands your fate & mine is more in the hands of the few.

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Sep 9, 2015 10:37:29   #
Ve'hoe
 
You already did,,, when you voted liberal,,, and for obama twice.... and for your black liberation communist political/religion,,, you call your platform...

You put them in power,,, and all you are doing now, is seeing the end coming for you an suing for peace,,,,, AFTER you have secured the victories and figured out you screwed yourself... and me in the process....

I wont forget that floyd,,,, because you did it on purpose,,, and with malice in your heart,,,, you gave power to those who you recognize now as the ENEMY... you were injudicious,,, you denied anyone who stood against you or didnt want what you wanted,,, justice,, through tyranny of your majority....

Now,,, like you are so fond of saying on your side,,,,

"No justice,,,,, NO PEACE"

Floyd Brown wrote:
If you think that I am plotting & planning against you ,you are so far off base that I can only feel sad for you.

As more & more power is in fewer hands your fate & mine is more in the hands of the few.

Reply
Sep 9, 2015 11:32:32   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
You already did,,, when you voted liberal,,, and for obama twice.... and for your black liberation communist political/religion,,, you call your platform...

You put them in power,,, and all you are doing now, is seeing the end coming for you an suing for peace,,,,, AFTER you have secured the victories and figured out you screwed yourself... and me in the process....

I wont forget that floyd,,,, because you did it on purpose,,, and with malice in your heart,,,, you gave power to those who you recognize now as the ENEMY... you were injudicious,,, you denied anyone who stood against you or didnt want what you wanted,,, justice,, through tyranny of your majority....

Now,,, like you are so fond of saying on your side,,,,

"No justice,,,,, NO PEACE"
You already did,,, when you voted liberal,,, and f... (show quote)


I don't really know anything of you personal life & don't really have a need on interest in asking you.

But if you have really read the things I have posted about my personal life you would have seem that I am a true Capitalist & Conservative.

I have been self employed for over 50 yrs.

I have set the value on my efforts.

I was asked to solve problems & did so with out setting a price & help others to be enriched & a longed the way have set aside enough to live well.

The problem in the world to day is that there are those that make Capitalism work extra well for them self.

For some it is a case of never having enough.

I have said that I have enough. It seems that at this point you don't have enough.

Where you may seem to not care that the money changers are welcome to having more of you money but the man on the street is robbing you blind.

I feel if some how the man on the street & not the money changer gets a couple of extra dollars I have a better chance of getting a buck or two more for my self. So would a lot of small business owners.

You seem to have a chip on your shoulder.

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Sep 9, 2015 11:58:11   #
Ve'hoe
 
You assume too much,,,, it is not for you,,, to determine who has or has not,,,, that is the chip on your shoulder... communism,,,

The system is not wrong,,, because of the greed of others, it is the greed that is wrong.

The way you want to control it, is also wrong, no different than those who bend it for their will. Even if you were a saint, that sort of power would eventually corrupt....

It is because of that corruption, that we came to America,,, and developed a constitution....

I do not agree with people like you who want to supplant the constitution,,, because YOU did not get all you want,,,, so instead, like you just did, you misrepresent yourself,,,ie lie.

That is the lie of the left..... the consitution does not need "re-writing,, it needs re-reading"

No paper will control the avarice of man, man will only do so if he believes in a power greater than himself,,,,, and obeys a higher purpose,,, communism places the STATE in that position of authority,,, and NOWHERE on this planet has it ever worked,,,,, and worse it is responsible for more death than all the wars in the last century,,,,,,,, hilter was a joke compared to Mao and Stalin,,, Pol Pot, CAstro and CHe,, et al....


Keep your communist bullshit floyd,, enemy of the constitution..

Floyd Brown wrote:
I don't really know anything of you personal life & don't really have a need on interest in asking you.

But if you have really read the things I have posted about my personal life you would have seem that I am a true Capitalist & Conservative.

I have been self employed for over 50 yrs.

I have set the value on my efforts.

I was asked to solve problems & did so with out setting a price & help others to be enriched & a longed the way have set aside enough to live well.

The problem in the world to day is that there are those that make Capitalism work extra well for them self.

For some it is a case of never having enough.

I have said that I have enough. It seems that at this point you don't have enough.

Where you may seem to not care that the money changers are welcome to having more of you money but the man on the street is robbing you blind.

I feel if some how the man on the street & not the money changer gets a couple of extra dollars I have a better chance of getting a buck or two more for my self. So would a lot of small business owners.

You seem to have a chip on your shoulder.
I don't really know anything of you personal life ... (show quote)

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Sep 9, 2015 12:03:15   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
You assume too much,,,, it is not for you,,, to determine who has or has not,,,, that is the chip on your shoulder... communism,,,

The system is not wrong,,, because of the greed of others, it is the greed that is wrong.

The way you want to control it, is also wrong, no different than those who bend it for their will. Even if you were a saint, that sort of power would eventually corrupt....

It is because of that corruption, that we came to America,,, and developed a constitution....

I do not agree with people like you who want to supplant the constitution,,, because YOU did not get all you want,,,, so instead, like you just did, you misrepresent yourself,,,ie lie.

That is the lie of the left..... the consitution does not need "re-writing,, it needs re-reading"

No paper will control the avarice of man, man will only do so if he believes in a power greater than himself,,,,, and obeys a higher purpose,,, communism places the STATE in that position of authority,,, and NOWHERE on this planet has it ever worked,,,,, and worse it is responsible for more death than all the wars in the last century,,,,,,,, hilter was a joke compared to Mao and Stalin,,, Pol Pot, CAstro and CHe,, et al....


Keep your communist bullshit floyd,, enemy of the constitution..
You assume too much,,,, it is not for you,,, to de... (show quote)


Well I need a bit of a break from your views.

I will be back to you later.

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Sep 9, 2015 12:28:24   #
Ve'hoe
 
They are not "MY VIEWS" floyd,,, they are the constitution,,, which we all swore as citizens to uphold and defend,,,,, guess you had your fingers crossed..

But in case there is some misunderstanding,, I dont WANT to go your way, and the constitution provides remedy for that.


Hopefully someday,,, I will be back for you too....

Floyd Brown wrote:
Well I need a bit of a break from your views.

I will be back to you later.

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Sep 10, 2015 07:02:31   #
dwallace2015
 
You don't understand them. It's not what you think. They are greedy, and don't want you living at all. Because you use resources they want.
It's called the "New World Order" and they want to literally kill 95% of the population of the world so that they can own it all. Oh, they will keep a few hundred thousand alive to grow their food, clean their palatial homes, mow their lawns and all the rest of the menial tasks that the elite will never do for themselves. But beyond that, you mean absolutely nothing to them except someone they would rather be without.

Floyd Brown wrote:
If you truly wish to have me look at my liberal views as being the coming case for the Agenda 21 you are looking at it all wrong. It is not now nor ever will be about being a right or left issue. The being right or left is a smoke screen to keep us divided while those in control do what ever they wish to gather more power.

What we are facing is a world of Anarchy or a world under an Oligarchy.

Unless we as individuals can become United with a plan to protect what we deem best about our way of live we all will lose.

If our voices are not United in saving as much as we can of what we have. Then the path the world is on will be the one we do not want.

If we do mot help the powers that are in control we will be terrorists to them. We will be the enemy.

We may well end up on opposite sides in the coming war.
Even though we may wish for much of the same personal goals in life.

There need not be fighting & killing to bring about changes to bring about a lasting peace & understanding of what is needed to bring that about.

The issue is all about the few who wish to have complete control over every thing.

I can live with you much as we do today. I don't want to have control over you personal life. But can you be sure that those that seek greater control will leave you the space to live your life with the freedoms you now have?

Will you agree to do what is wanted from you to extend the control of others to bring about the changes needed to control the likes of me?

Our future may be better or it may be worse.

It will be better for us if we can stand together in seeking the changes needed to protect the rights we deserve.

I don't know about you but at 78 I will just be so much collateral damage.

Speaking out against going to war may well mean that by doing so may make me an enemy of the state.

It is a sad state of affairs that one who would speak out for saving most of what we now have could be seem as an enemy of the state.
If you truly wish to have me look at my liberal vi... (show quote)

Reply
Sep 10, 2015 13:10:06   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
dwallace2015 wrote:
You don't understand them. It's not what you think. They are greedy, and don't want you living at all. Because you use resources they want.
It's called the "New World Order" and they want to literally kill 95% of the population of the world so that they can own it all. Oh, they will keep a few hundred thousand alive to grow their food, clean their palatial homes, mow their lawns and all the rest of the menial tasks that the elite will never do for themselves. But beyond that, you mean absolutely nothing to them except someone they would rather be without.
You don't understand them. It's not what you thin... (show quote)


I don't quite see a reduction of 95%.

If those on this site have their way it would be about 51%
Because 50% seem to favor supporting the 1%.

They would like to be apart of those that will be around take can of the winners.

What I see if things fall apart we will see the Feudal system coming back.

With War Lords fighting for their own corner of the World.

Those who would use force to gain complete control would soon be fighting with each other over the spoils of war.

If there are going to changes made that bring about a New World Order. It is best if much of what is here now is protected.

Just remember that you & I may be asked to defend our Nation. Even if the only price we pay is our freedom.

Just remember if once the killing starts it will go on until those
in charge agree to peace or so many have died that the are too few left to fight.

It could happen that when many see what is going on & just refuse to support the fighting.

Mankind has paid a huge price to get to this point & I strongly believe the forces for Peace will over come the forces for war.

Through it all I feel that the best that mankind has to offer will prevail.
More so now than ever before.

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Sep 10, 2015 13:34:52   #
Ve'hoe
 
You,,, support the 1%

Who do you think Obama plays golf with on Marthas Vinyard?

All those PO Folks???

What you are really doing floyd,,,, and I dont forget what you have said before, is that you are sensing the end of your reign,,, and you want to know if we will dismantle what you have already done, or go to war, or do what you did.

The answer should be relatively clear, the pendulum is about to swing,,, you were warned, and NO is the answer,,

What you taught us,,was that NO we cannot all just get along.


Floyd Brown wrote:
I don't quite see a reduction of 95%.

If those on this site have their way it would be about 51%
Because 50% seem to favor supporting the 1%.

They would like to be apart of those that will be around take can of the winners.

What I see if things fall apart we will see the Feudal system coming back.

With War Lords fighting for their own corner of the World.

Those who would use force to gain complete control would soon be fighting with each other over the spoils of war.

If there are going to changes made that bring about a New World Order. It is best if much of what is here now is protected.

Just remember that you & I may be asked to defend our Nation. Even if the only price we pay is our freedom.

Just remember if once the killing starts it will go on until those
in charge agree to peace or so many have died that the are too few left to fight.

It could happen that when many see what is going on & just refuse to support the fighting.

Mankind has paid a huge price to get to this point & I strongly believe the forces for Peace will over come the forces for war.

Through it all I feel that the best that mankind has to offer will prevail.
More so now than ever before.
I don't quite see a reduction of 95%. br br If th... (show quote)

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Sep 10, 2015 14:45:15   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
You,,, support the 1%

Who do you think Obama plays golf with on Marthas Vinyard?

All those PO Folks???

What you are really doing floyd,,,, and I dont forget what you have said before, is that you are sensing the end of your reign,,, and you want to know if we will dismantle what you have already done, or go to war, or do what you did.

The answer should be relatively clear, the pendulum is about to swing,,, you were warned, and NO is the answer,,

What you taught us,,was that NO we cannot all just get along.
You,,, support the 1% br br Who do you think Obam... (show quote)


I really do like the exchange we are having. It is just hard to put words down that can get across what one means & the other understands.

I am not a member of the 1%.

I am strongly in favor of seeing the wealth in more hands than fewer.

I am for people like you & I, to look for what is not good only for each of us but for all of those much like us.

The line about the end of the reign is in reference to the reign that White man has had over the world. How having cause things good for Him self & his kind now sees that his place in the world. It is a last gap movement to get as much power as he can.

Much of our exchange of information has been misunderstood.

The point I was trying to make was that there are those with power who wish to see us divided . When we are divided they have more power & we less.

I would like us not to look at the political label each of us has but as two people that see problems in the world & to seek common ground in ways to ease some of what is wrong.

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Sep 10, 2015 14:54:56   #
Ve'hoe
 
I didnt say you WERE the one percent,,, I said you support them,,,,

GEt it straight, I am not your friend,,,, and dont appreciate the method of trying to establish connections with me,,,,

It wont work,,because you have not denounced what you did,, and in fact are trying it again...

no deal

Floyd Brown wrote:
I really do like the exchange we are having. It is just hard to put words down that can get across what one means.

I am not a member of the 1%.

I am strongly in favor of seeing the wealth in more hands than fewer.

I am for people like you & I to look for what is not good only for each of us but for all of those much like us.

Reply
Sep 10, 2015 15:29:58   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
I didnt say you WERE the one percent,,, I said you support them,,,,

GEt it straight, I am not your friend,,,, and dont appreciate the method of trying to establish connections with me,,,,

It wont work,,because you have not denounced what you did,, and in fact are trying it again...

no deal


Okay I will step back & take a break from you.

But I will keep getting in your head.
Until you stop just looking for words you disagree with.

Can you take a little longer break this time?

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