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Sep 2, 2015 10:22:03   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Now is the time to start our Peaceful Revolution.

There is no need to break any laws to get the redress we seek.

No one really wants to have Anarchy. It just about making small changes. Changes that allow every one to truly have a chance to have the dream that we all can share in the things that make life good.

We live at a time where there are those that say GREED IS GOOD.

The message we need to send is THAT GREED IS BAD.

The message I wish to send is that if you wish to save a system that has allowed you to do so well that you have more than you need you need to see that there is more of the pie left for others to have SOME of what you have. You have to take the lead in seeing that more people have a chance at the DREAM.

We are being controlled by those that say they are self made Individuals & they alone deserve what they have.

If it is true that they are self made why must they seek to control all aspects of every ones life.

There are those that would destroy the vary system that allowed them to do so well in the effort to keep what they have & control the laws to let them keep what they have & male it easier to get more.

I am all for keeping much of the system as it is.
To only change the parts that feed GREED.

Having more money in & of it's self isn't the problem. It is what that money is being used for. Buying others to do your misdeeds to feed your GREED should be a NO NO.

The simplest action to take is to tax GREED higher.

It may not need to be a large change but the sooner we make changes the small they can be.

Again I say that It will take only small changes to avoid ANARCHY.

IF SMALL STEPS ARE TAKEN SOON TO REVERSE THE COURSE WE ARE ON ANARCHY CAN BE AVOIDED.

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Sep 2, 2015 10:38:00   #
She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Now is the time to start our Peaceful Revolution.

There is no need to break any laws to get the redress we seek.

No one really wants to have Anarchy. It just about making small changes. Changes that allow every one to truly have a chance to have the dream that we all can share in the things that make life good.

We live at a time where there are those that say GREED IS GOOD.

The message we need to send is THAT GREED IS BAD.

The message I wish to send is that if you wish to save a system that has allowed you to do so well that you have more than you need you need to see that there is more of the pie left for others to have SOME of what you have. You have to take the lead in seeing that more people have a chance at the DREAM.

We are being controlled by those that say they are self made Individuals & they alone deserve what they have.

If it is true that they are self made why must they seek to control all aspects of every ones life.

There are those that would destroy the vary system that allowed them to do so well in the effort to keep what they have & control the laws to let them keep what they have & male it easier to get more.

I am all for keeping much of the system as it is.
To only change the parts that feed GREED.

Having more money in & of it's self isn't the problem. It is what that money is being used for. Buying others to do your misdeeds to feed your GREED should be a NO NO.

The simplest action to take is to tax GREED higher.

It may not need to be a large change but the sooner we make changes the small they can be.

Again I say that It will take only small changes to avoid ANARCHY.

IF SMALL STEPS ARE TAKEN SOON TO REVERSE THE COURSE WE ARE ON ANARCHY CAN BE AVOIDED.
Now is the time to start our Peaceful Revolution. ... (show quote)


I agree with most of your post. However, perhaps we need anarchy. There are occasions when beauty has come from chaos.

In my opinion, when your government is owned, it is very hard to work within the system. Esp. when the system is a stacked deck. I would not like to see total anarchy, but I can not see a viable way to change our corrupt system. We continue to buy into the idea that by widening the gap between the elite and the rest of us, the greedy will somehow become decent human beings. Hasn't happened so far. The more we give, the more they want.

Taxing the rich will never happen so long as they own the government. Most of our representatives are billionaires. They are not going to tax themselves.

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Sep 2, 2015 11:07:05   #
Sicilianthing
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Now is the time to start our Peaceful Revolution.

There is no need to break any laws to get the redress we seek.

No one really wants to have Anarchy. It just about making small changes. Changes that allow every one to truly have a chance to have the dream that we all can share in the things that make life good.

We live at a time where there are those that say GREED IS GOOD.

The message we need to send is THAT GREED IS BAD.

The message I wish to send is that if you wish to save a system that has allowed you to do so well that you have more than you need you need to see that there is more of the pie left for others to have SOME of what you have. You have to take the lead in seeing that more people have a chance at the DREAM.

We are being controlled by those that say they are self made Individuals & they alone deserve what they have.

If it is true that they are self made why must they seek to control all aspects of every ones life.

There are those that would destroy the vary system that allowed them to do so well in the effort to keep what they have & control the laws to let them keep what they have & male it easier to get more.

I am all for keeping much of the system as it is.
To only change the parts that feed GREED.

Having more money in & of it's self isn't the problem. It is what that money is being used for. Buying others to do your misdeeds to feed your GREED should be a NO NO.

The simplest action to take is to tax GREED higher.

It may not need to be a large change but the sooner we make changes the small they can be.

Again I say that It will take only small changes to avoid ANARCHY.

IF SMALL STEPS ARE TAKEN SOON TO REVERSE THE COURSE WE ARE ON ANARCHY CAN BE AVOIDED.
Now is the time to start our Peaceful Revolution. ... (show quote)



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Good Luck with that Floyd, you have my support if you can bring this to bare.

But you're in for a RUDE of the most RUDE awakenings...

Even if the Redress of Grievances were delivered and rendered effective to Congress the Bankster won't just hand over the Keys to the Kingdom...

Do you understand what happens next ?

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Sep 2, 2015 11:58:01   #
SBSHINE Loc: Whitefish, MT
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Now is the time to start our Peaceful Revolution.

There is no need to break any laws to get the redress we seek.

No one really wants to have Anarchy. It just about making small changes. Changes that allow every one to truly have a chance to have the dream that we all can share in the things that make life good.

We live at a time where there are those that say GREED IS GOOD.

The message we need to send is THAT GREED IS BAD.

The message I wish to send is that if you wish to save a system that has allowed you to do so well that you have more than you need you need to see that there is more of the pie left for others to have SOME of what you have. You have to take the lead in seeing that more people have a chance at the DREAM.

We are being controlled by those that say they are self made Individuals & they alone deserve what they have.

If it is true that they are self made why must they seek to control all aspects of every ones life.

There are those that would destroy the vary system that allowed them to do so well in the effort to keep what they have & control the laws to let them keep what they have & male it easier to get more.

I am all for keeping much of the system as it is.
To only change the parts that feed GREED.

Having more money in & of it's self isn't the problem. It is what that money is being used for. Buying others to do your misdeeds to feed your GREED should be a NO NO.

The simplest action to take is to tax GREED higher.

It may not need to be a large change but the sooner we make changes the small they can be.

Again I say that It will take only small changes to avoid ANARCHY.

IF SMALL STEPS ARE TAKEN SOON TO REVERSE THE COURSE WE ARE ON ANARCHY CAN BE AVOIDED.
Now is the time to start our Peaceful Revolution. ... (show quote)



Your simplistic answers to everything in the real world won't cut it.

You want a peaceful revolution ? Such as give us what we want and we won't march yelling.

You want 'redress'. Why not go out and EARN it?

You want changes so all can fulfill their dreams? Proper manners, study hard, work hard, act sensible, invest wisely and live.

Greed = man works hard to make MORE money, wants MORE sales, needs bigger work shop, hires MORE people, people earn MORE and feed their family.

No Greed = less for everybody

Most so-called greedy people too busy to control people except to tell them what time shop opens, etc. and tell them where to pick up their pay check to spend on whatever they want.

If you don't want Anarchy then ignore the screaming "sit-around-and-do-nothing" crowd of free-loaders marching down the street. Most of them living OFF THE BACKS of the greedy workers who pay taxes.

GET REAL AND TOUGHEN UP BECAUSE THE WORLD IS GOING TO EAT YOU ALIVE.

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Sep 2, 2015 14:54:09   #
Ve'hoe
 
I prefer the honest "greed" to the dishonest "share wif yo broffer" movement.....

the govt is owned,,, by leftist billionaires,,,, you dont want to be in the leftist armies.....look what happened in russia,,, after the socialists took control,,,,, all the useful idiots were killed.....

I think I prefer anarchy at least there is a chance out of chaos,,,,,,,,

with leftism, there is NO chance

SBSHINE wrote:
Your simplistic answers to everything in the real world won't cut it.

You want a peaceful revolution ? Such as give us what we want and we won't march yelling.

You want 'redress'. Why not go out and EARN it?

You want changes so all can fulfill their dreams? Proper manners, study hard, work hard, act sensible, invest wisely and live.

Greed = man works hard to make MORE money, wants MORE sales, needs bigger work shop, hires MORE people, people earn MORE and feed their family.

No Greed = less for everybody

Most so-called greedy people too busy to control people except to tell them what time shop opens, etc. and tell them where to pick up their pay check to spend on whatever they want.

If you don't want Anarchy then ignore the screaming "sit-around-and-do-nothing" crowd of free-loaders marching down the street. Most of them living OFF THE BACKS of the greedy workers who pay taxes.

GET REAL AND TOUGHEN UP BECAUSE THE WORLD IS GOING TO EAT YOU ALIVE.
Your simplistic answers to everything in the real ... (show quote)

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Sep 2, 2015 19:16:08   #
CharlesRabb
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
I prefer the honest "greed" to the dishonest "share wif yo broffer" movement.....

the govt is owned,,, by leftist billionaires,,,, you dont want to be in the leftist armies.....look what happened in russia,,, after the socialists took control,,,,, all the useful idiots were killed.....

I think I prefer anarchy at least there is a chance out of chaos,,,,,,,,

with leftism, there is NO chance


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Sep 3, 2015 03:25:29   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
SBSHINE wrote:
Your simplistic answers to everything in the real world won't cut it.

You want a peaceful revolution ? Such as give us what we want and we won't march yelling.

You want 'redress'. Why not go out and EARN it?

You want changes so all can fulfill their dreams? Proper manners, study hard, work hard, act sensible, invest wisely and live.

Greed = man works hard to make MORE money, wants MORE sales, needs bigger work shop, hires MORE people, people earn MORE and feed their family.

No Greed = less for everybody

Most so-called greedy people too busy to control people except to tell them what time shop opens, etc. and tell them where to pick up their pay check to spend on whatever they want.

If you don't want Anarchy then ignore the screaming "sit-around-and-do-nothing" crowd of free-loaders marching down the street. Most of them living OFF THE BACKS of the greedy workers who pay taxes.

GET REAL AND TOUGHEN UP BECAUSE THE WORLD IS GOING TO EAT YOU ALIVE.
Your simplistic answers to everything in the real ... (show quote)


I lack the ability to put words down with the clarity needed.

I don't have a set plan of action but a loose set of ideas to use as a stepping stone in an exchange of ideas.

Most of us go about our day to day activities looking for a little corner we can call our own.

The movers & shakers for the most part come from the masses.They work to make others richer (The greediest)

What I am saying is that each of us in our own humble way have am impact on what is going on in the world.

Each of us has the chance to see that we add our labor to those that treat us the best.

I don't propose that this will happen over night. If as some of us move upward through the system the changes we look for can be had as the less greedy replace the more greedy.

It boils down to who will truly run the World. The greediest or those that feel that the World will be a better place if we leave a little of the pie for the next person.

There are those that have a lot who are ready to take a little less.

The ultimate power is in the hands of the masses.

For that to happen each of us has to give up on the idea that we as an individual can be all powerful.

Most of us are & will be fair with most of our dealings with others.

Wanting more & having more is not bad.

The system as it stands today is one where only some deserve more & others would or are being left to fend for them self.

There is much about the system we live in has been good,

The wealth & power is now in just a few hands.

Most of us have very little wealth or power but we are the biggest part of what it takes to do the work to hold every thing together.

We just need to see as individuals that we seek that we get treated fairly.

What is fair is what each of us feels is right.
But in setting what we feel is right for us we need to see that there is the same level of fairness for others.

One is never to loose sight of rewarding people in line with what they add.

To many of us feel that because we have our little corner of the World we will accept what we have & not rock the boat.

That is what those in power want to hear.

So if you like much of how the system works you need to be a part of what is needed to keep what is good & get rid of what is not good,

If it is to work at all we the masses need to unite to bring about what we need.

Is it really the World where a few of the people(1%) control every thing. or would you choose to live in a World where say 90% of the people controls 90% of the wealth.

A world where (you supply the number) of the upper level of personal wealth, ranging down to a level of income that even the poorest can live on.

It is not numbers that will be set in stone but a loose guide line of what is in your idea of fairness.

Having a progressive tax base where the tax rate rises as wealth increases.

If you have more you have to pay more to protect the system that allowed you to gain more.

We can not sit by & wait for some person come up with a plan for change. We all must offer our thoughts as the plan moves forward.

As we put our thoughts down & it makes sense to us we move out & seek others to add & adjust our views.

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Sep 3, 2015 06:32:49   #
Ve'hoe
 
As you "put down your words" you confuse yourself... it is much simpler than that...



1. Quit voting for lying socialist democrats, who enslave you financially, and make fools of you socially.



The f-ing end.......... how damned hard was that

Floyd Brown wrote:
I lack the ability to put words down with the clarity needed.

I don't have a set plan of action but a loose set of ideas to use as a stepping stone in an exchange of ideas.

Most of us go about our day to day activities looking for a little corner we can call our own.

The movers & shakers for the most part come from the masses.They work to make others richer (The greediest)

What I am saying is that each of us in our own humble way have am impact on what is going on in the world.

Each of us has the chance to see that we add our labor to those that treat us the best.

I don't propose that this will happen over night. If as some of us move upward through the system the changes we look for can be had as the less greedy replace the more greedy.

It boils down to who will truly run the World. The greediest or those that feel that the World will be a better place if we leave a little of the pie for the next person.

There are those that have a lot who are ready to take a little less.

The ultimate power is in the hands of the masses.

For that to happen each of us has to give up on the idea that we as an individual can be all powerful.

Most of us are & will be fair with most of our dealings with others.

Wanting more & having more is not bad.

The system as it stands today is one where only some deserve more & others would or are being left to fend for them self.

There is much about the system we live in has been good,

The wealth & power is now in just a few hands.

Most of us have very little wealth or power but we are the biggest part of what it takes to do the work to hold every thing together.

We just need to see as individuals that we seek that we get treated fairly.

What is fair is what each of us feels is right.
But in setting what we feel is right for us we need to see that there is the same level of fairness for others.

One is never to loose sight of rewarding people in line with what they add.

To many of us feel that because we have our little corner of the World we will accept what we have & not rock the boat.

That is what those in power want to hear.

So if you like much of how the system works you need to be a part of what is needed to keep what is good & get rid of what is not good,

If it is to work at all we the masses need to unite to bring about what we need.

Is it really the World where a few of the people(1%) control every thing. or would you choose to live in a World where say 90% of the people controls 90% of the wealth.

A world where (you supply the number) of the upper level of personal wealth, ranging down to a level of income that even the poorest can live on.

It is not numbers that will be set in stone but a loose guide line of what is in your idea of fairness.

Having a progressive tax base where the tax rate rises as wealth increases.

If you have more you have to pay more to protect the system that allowed you to gain more.

We can not sit by & wait for some person come up with a plan for change. We all must offer our thoughts as the plan moves forward.

As we put our thoughts down & it makes sense to us we move out & seek others to add & adjust our views.
I lack the ability to put words down with the clar... (show quote)

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Sep 3, 2015 06:49:07   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Good Luck with that Floyd, you have my support if you can bring this to bare.

But you're in for a RUDE of the most RUDE awakenings...

Even if the Redress of Grievances were delivered and rendered effective to Congress the Bankster won't just hand over the Keys to the Kingdom...

Do you understand what happens next ?


Yep, LOCK AND LOAD, bibel, beans, and bullets not nessaraly in that order :thumbup:

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Sep 3, 2015 07:10:47   #
rebob14
 
She Wolf wrote:
I agree with most of your post. However, perhaps we need anarchy. There are occasions when beauty has come from chaos.

In my opinion, when your government is owned, it is very hard to work within the system. Esp. when the system is a stacked deck. I would not like to see total anarchy, but I can not see a viable way to change our corrupt system. We continue to buy into the idea that by widening the gap between the elite and the rest of us, the greedy will somehow become decent human beings. Hasn't happened so far. The more we give, the more they want.

Taxing the rich will never happen so long as they own the government. Most of our representatives are billionaires. They are not going to tax themselves.
I agree with most of your post. However, perhaps ... (show quote)






Nobody took your wealth - - - you never created anything. Go earn what you feel you're entitled to. People who create nothing have been taking the wealth of those who do for thousands of years and the result is ALWAYS the same: nobody has anything after the dust settles. Wealth is not a fixed amount of resources, it is constantly created by those who are gifted with the desire to excell.

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Sep 3, 2015 09:06:09   #
Orrie
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Now is the time to start our Peaceful Revolution.

There is no need to break any laws to get the redress we seek.

No one really wants to have Anarchy. It just about making small changes. Changes that allow every one to truly have a chance to have the dream that we all can share in the things that make life good.

We live at a time where there are those that say GREED IS GOOD.

The message we need to send is THAT GREED IS BAD.

The message I wish to send is that if you wish to save a system that has allowed you to do so well that you have more than you need you need to see that there is more of the pie left for others to have SOME of what you have. You have to take the lead in seeing that more people have a chance at the DREAM.

We are being controlled by those that say they are self made Individuals & they alone deserve what they have.

If it is true that they are self made why must they seek to control all aspects of every ones life.

There are those that would destroy the vary system that allowed them to do so well in the effort to keep what they have & control the laws to let them keep what they have & male it easier to get more.

I am all for keeping much of the system as it is.
To only change the parts that feed GREED.

Having more money in & of it's self isn't the problem. It is what that money is being used for. Buying others to do your misdeeds to feed your GREED should be a NO NO.

The simplest action to take is to tax GREED higher.

It may not need to be a large change but the sooner we make changes the small they can be.

Again I say that It will take only small changes to avoid ANARCHY.

IF SMALL STEPS ARE TAKEN SOON TO REVERSE THE COURSE WE ARE ON ANARCHY CAN BE AVOIDED.
Now is the time to start our Peaceful Revolution. ... (show quote)


How long is this going to take? Many of of us old timers don't have a whole lot of time left here on earth to see a change and I doubt very much if our grandchildren will either. For every step forward there will be a liberal commie pushing us two steps back. If you believe that these NWO pigs are going to give up their fight to bring in a one world government you're just fooling yourself.

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Sep 3, 2015 09:11:53   #
Ve'hoe
 
Well,,,, remember,, Floyd wants to "direct" YOUR efforts,,,, from his lazy boy,,,, and don ferget his "cut" for being the brains o the outfit!!!!


Orrie wrote:
How long is this going to take? Many of of us old timers don't have a whole lot of time left here on earth to see a change and I doubt very much if our grandchildren will either. For every step forward there will be a liberal commie pushing us two steps back. If you believe that these NWO pigs are going to give up their fight to bring in a one world government you're just fooling yourself.

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Sep 3, 2015 09:40:16   #
northernlights
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
I lack the ability to put words down with the clarity needed.

I don't have a set plan of action but a loose set of ideas to use as a stepping stone in an exchange of ideas.

Most of us go about our day to day activities looking for a little corner we can call our own.

The movers & shakers for the most part come from the masses.They work to make others richer (The greediest)

What I am saying is that each of us in our own humble way have am impact on what is going on in the world.

Each of us has the chance to see that we add our labor to those that treat us the best.

I don't propose that this will happen over night. If as some of us move upward through the system the changes we look for can be had as the less greedy replace the more greedy.

It boils down to who will truly run the World. The greediest or those that feel that the World will be a better place if we leave a little of the pie for the next person.

There are those that have a lot who are ready to take a little less.

The ultimate power is in the hands of the masses.

For that to happen each of us has to give up on the idea that we as an individual can be all powerful.

Most of us are & will be fair with most of our dealings with others.

Wanting more & having more is not bad.

The system as it stands today is one where only some deserve more & others would or are being left to fend for them self.

There is much about the system we live in has been good,

The wealth & power is now in just a few hands.

Most of us have very little wealth or power but we are the biggest part of what it takes to do the work to hold every thing together.

We just need to see as individuals that we seek that we get treated fairly.

What is fair is what each of us feels is right.
But in setting what we feel is right for us we need to see that there is the same level of fairness for others.

One is never to loose sight of rewarding people in line with what they add.

To many of us feel that because we have our little corner of the World we will accept what we have & not rock the boat.

That is what those in power want to hear.

So if you like much of how the system works you need to be a part of what is needed to keep what is good & get rid of what is not good,

If it is to work at all we the masses need to unite to bring about what we need.

Is it really the World where a few of the people(1%) control every thing. or would you choose to live in a World where say 90% of the people controls 90% of the wealth.

A world where (you supply the number) of the upper level of personal wealth, ranging down to a level of income that even the poorest can live on.

It is not numbers that will be set in stone but a loose guide line of what is in your idea of fairness.

Having a progressive tax base where the tax rate rises as wealth increases.

If you have more you have to pay more to protect the system that allowed you to gain more.

We can not sit by & wait for some person come up with a plan for change. We all must offer our thoughts as the plan moves forward.

As we put our thoughts down & it makes sense to us we move out & seek others to add & adjust our views.
I lack the ability to put words down with the clar... (show quote)



Well said
It is not greed that enables us to move forward, greed is selfish, gluttony, it's endeavors is purely a self interest party and does not work to serve the community as a whole, which includes any improvements that all would benefit from, for example our infrastructure.

Ambition with a conscious effort, not just for the individual can work. When the politicians are busy working for themselves we will never move forward. Any monies transferred in the political arena will keep us on this continued practice without any improvements or change.

Sometimes these changes are that simple, but it has to begin, a first step has to be taken.

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Sep 3, 2015 11:49:41   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
northernlights wrote:
Well said
It is not greed that enables us to move forward, greed is selfish, gluttony, it's endeavors is purely a self interest party and does not work to serve the community as a whole, which includes any improvements that all would benefit from, for example our infrastructure.

Ambition with a conscious effort, not just for the individual can work. When the politicians are busy working for themselves we will never move forward. Any monies transferred in the political arena will keep us on this continued practice without any improvements or change.

Sometimes these changes are that simple, but it has to begin, a first step has to be taken.
Well said br It is not greed that enables us to mo... (show quote)


There are those that don't want to give up the labels we have for each other,

Those in control wish us to keep us divided by keeping the labels used to divide us.

This is no longer a Right or Left agenda but a have or have not division. Are we to be left in the hands of the greedy or can we seek greater control over what is going on .

We have the choice to look to each other for answers or to accept the choices laid out by those who wish to control us.

If we wish greater control over our life's we need to set aside the divisions set over us.

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Sep 3, 2015 12:02:16   #
Ve'hoe
 
Well,,, then you are on your own,,, I wont help you into a communist doctrine,,,,

In fact I consider THAT and you,,, the problem.


Floyd Brown wrote:
There are those that don't want to give up the labels we have for each other,

Those in control wish us to keep us divided by keeping the labels used to divide us.

This is no longer a Right or Left agenda but a have or have not division. Are we to be left in the hands of the greedy or can we seek greater control over what is going on .

We have the choice to look to each other for answers or to accept the choices laid out by those who wish to control us.

If we wish greater control over our life's we need to set aside the divisions set over us.
There are those that don't want to give up the lab... (show quote)

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