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Aug 31, 2015 10:28:02   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
By letting our self's be divided we have allowed others to have greater control over us.

Each day we become a bit more imprisoned.

So many of us sell our souls for the almighty dollar.

Seeing how so many of us think & do things leaves me to believe that we will never be United against those that have enslaved us.

To get by most of us are here to just see that our efforts are seen as just a means to see that more money keeps flowing to the top.

As more wealth has ended up in few hands most of us have seen a reduction in our share of the pie.

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Aug 31, 2015 10:30:27   #
EL Loc: Massachusetts
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
By letting our self's be divided we have allowed others to have greater control over us.

Each day we become a bit more imprisoned.

So many of us sell our souls for the almighty dollar.

Seeing how so many of us think & do things leaves me to believe that we will never be United against those that have enslaved us.

To get by most of us are here to just see that our efforts are seen as just a means to see that more money keeps flowing to the top.

As more wealth has ended up in few hands most of us have seen a reduction in our share of the pie.
By letting our self's be divided we have allowed o... (show quote)


Americans have ceased to be a team.

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Aug 31, 2015 10:45:56   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
EL wrote:
Americans have ceased to be a team.


Most of us do not seek to control others. Most of us do not wish to be controlled by others.

Most of us are more or less in the middle.

Most of us respect the need of others to have a little corner of the World where we fit in & can live in peace with each other & have some of the comforts that make life better.

But the excess greed by some makes matter worse for
most of us,

Most of us are caught between the very rich & the extreme poor.

It is the job of the Middle to hold it all together.

Given a fair chance at it it is a job that most in the middle will do.

With out the middle a nation fails.

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Aug 31, 2015 10:47:12   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
We have become a populace of idol worshippers. For some money and prosperity is their idol. Others sex and pleasure. The younger generation, social media. Maybe the first two commandments were written for a darn good reason.
Floyd Brown wrote:
By letting our self's be divided we have allowed others to have greater control over us.

Each day we become a bit more imprisoned.

So many of us sell our souls for the almighty dollar.

Seeing how so many of us think & do things leaves me to believe that we will never be United against those that have enslaved us.

To get by most of us are here to just see that our efforts are seen as just a means to see that more money keeps flowing to the top.

As more wealth has ended up in few hands most of us have seen a reduction in our share of the pie.
By letting our self's be divided we have allowed o... (show quote)

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Aug 31, 2015 10:56:56   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
JFlorio wrote:
We have become a populace of idol worshippers. For some money and prosperity is their idol. Others sex and pleasure. The younger generation, social media. Maybe the first two commandments were written for a darn good reason.


I say much of what goes on in the world can be put down as distraction'

The day to day living has a harshness about it & we seek ways to distract us from it.

There are those that wish to distract us from their actions so they create (Mass Media) things to make it easy to be distracted.

Distracting us from what they do to gain greater control over Us.

Using Media to divide Us.

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Aug 31, 2015 11:52:14   #
She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia
 
I believe it was Ghandi who said: "Live simply so others may simply live".

We have become a nation of greed. We have bought into the propaganda that the only way to help our fellow man is to have something taken away from us. In our never ending quest for the all mighty dollar, we have become one of the cruelest places on earth.

It is far to easy for some of us to remove ourselves from the plight of the poor. They simply are not human to us. If every person had to live just one week on the street, we would gain a whole new prospective. If all we had to live on was the so called charities and government subsidizes, we would see they are a farce. But we justify our behavior by pretending we are doing something for the poor in this country.

We are no longer a country under God, we are a country under Greed and Pettiness.

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Aug 31, 2015 11:58:25   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
She Wolfe you are smarter than these statements. Granted their is evil in our country and greed but we are still the most generous country on earth. Americans open their pockets for many. We let more people in legally than all other countries combined. We shed American blood hopefully in the name of freedom. We have lost faith in our leaders for good reason. Why are you bothered when some rich guy gets your dollar but it doesn't seem to bother you when the government takes that dollar?
She Wolf wrote:
I believe it was Ghandi who said: "Live simply so others may simply live".

We have become a nation of greed. We have bought into the propaganda that the only way to help our fellow man is to have something taken away from us. In our never ending quest for the all mighty dollar, we have become one of the cruelest places on earth.

It is far to easy for some of us to remove ourselves from the plight of the poor. They simply are not human to us. If every person had to live just one week on the street, we would gain a whole new prospective. If all we had to live on was the so called charities and government subsidizes, we would see they are a farce. But we justify our behavior by pretending we are doing something for the poor in this country.

We are no longer a country under God, we are a country under Greed and Pettiness.
I believe it was Ghandi who said: "Live simp... (show quote)

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Aug 31, 2015 13:36:18   #
She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia
 
JFlorio wrote:
She Wolfe you are smarter than these statements. Granted their is evil in our country and greed but we are still the most generous country on earth. Americans open their pockets for many. We let more people in legally than all other countries combined. We shed American blood hopefully in the name of freedom. We have lost faith in our leaders for good reason. Why are you bothered when some rich guy gets your dollar but it doesn't seem to bother you when the government takes that dollar?


It bothers me because the "rich guy" is taking far more than my dollar. He pays little or no taxes. He owns my government. I do not wish to be a slave of the elite.

It doesn't bother me in the least when my tax dollars go to social programs designed to help my fellow citizens. I don't mind sharing. I do mind greedy people, who will never have enough. How many tax breaks are enough? How large a divide does there need to be? It seems to me since we have been giving a free ride to corporations and the wealthy our economy has been destroyed. If this continues we will soon a society much as the one we fought a revolution to be rid of.

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Aug 31, 2015 14:44:20   #
Abel
 
If we are to save our country, in my opinion, we must learn to work together and be just as united in our mission as those Marxist democrats are in tearing the country down.

Obama and his minions, the democrat party, and even a large portion of the republican party (the "Establishment" or "RINOs") are well organized by their "Community Organizer" leader whose only real talent is organizing and agitating; their goal is to "Fundamentally Change" our country. It is obvious to any thinking person that Obama has only a couple of additional talents, sophisticated lying and deception! He is also a Muslim, and the Qur'an is not compatible with the Constitution! If he, or they, loved and cherished our country as we patriots do, they wouldn't want to fundamentally change it! One normally tries to nurture and hold on to things they love, not destroy them. The Muslim extremists goal is to take over the country, and re-program everyone they can to become Muslim, and exterminate all the rest, the infidels; I'm proud to be an infidel and I love my country as a Sovereign Republic Nation!

The USA does have a number of faults that have been injected by the socialists over the past several decades, but with a little TLC our honest conservative patriots can remedy these faults; now the socialists are even trying to rewrite American History under the Common Core system to brainwash our children. The primary way to change the beliefs about history, which is a record of events that have already occurred and can't be changed, is to program the children differently in their early years before they have heard or care about the truth; children generally believe what they are originally taught by their parents and teachers, right or wrong!

Common Core is basically a guide to becoming a true liberal expert: Learn more, and more about less, and less until you know everything there is to know about nothing; but at least you will have an "A" on your report card. If Obama has one, I wonder what his "Diploma" would have on it, Communist Agitator, Valedictorian? He is good at it.

But first, to recover from the damages Obama, and several previous presidents have caused, we must rid the government of these hard-shell establishment Communists that are continually poking sharp sticks in our eyes and robbing us blind! To accomplish this, we must become as well organized as they are and learn to street fight just as dirty as they do. Good examples of recent dirty fighters would be Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, John Kerry, Eric Holder, and Hillary Clinton. Woodrow Wilson was our first Communist president, and there have been several since.

Ever wonder why the liberals push Political Correctness so hard, or why there is no such thing as a "White Caucus?" How about a government that runs on crisis after crisis, such as those crises provided by Obama's "Crisis of the week" club? Constant turmoil, division of the masses, and fear mongering! It is a matter of control, and they are Hell bent to keep conservatives of any sub-race, color, or class, from gaining a controlling foothold in the government power structure. I say sub-race because my race is "Human" and I, as a Human "racist," believe the "Human race" should remain superior to other animals on the planet; liberals, on the other hand, prefer to divide the sub-races amongst themselves so the elites can "control" their political competition. The Socialists, promoting their "Utopia," promise to give everyone everything, but once elected they take everything you have, giving some token amount to the poor but most goes to the elites of their wealthier political class socialist friends who support their campaigns to get them elected to government positions of control; it's been the same old story for a long, long time. Will we ever learn, or will continue to remain blinded by their turds?

If you want a preview of their Utopia, try reading "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley, or see the movie starring Leonard Nimoy as the great leader (available on Amazon); very good. It is Political Correctness at its finest, but basically about "Entertainment; "extreme distractions" put upon mankind by socialists to keep the idle mind from thinking about more important matters. Examples: Professional Sports, Hollywood movies promoting violence, racism, socialism, crime, politics, and greed. Ever notice how we continually refer to various books and movies to describe the violence and sex we see in movies and on TV? If our legal citizens would pay a hundredth as much attention to socialist government shenanigans as they do "entertainment and the names of actors and the names and ratings of ball players and race horses" our country wouldn't be in nearly the mess it is now!

We tend to be apathetic toward anything government related, and we should get off our butts and on our feet and actually stand for something lest we fall for everything these snakes put forth! Career Politicians and Political Lawyers will likely cause the demise of the USA as we know it if they can't be stopped!

People who work for a living should be required to both have a PhotoID and to vote; however, those who just vote for a living should be prevented from voting! Want to vote, go to work. I'm not writing about people who have legitimate handicaps and CAN'T work, as they should taken care of and have a say in how they are treated; I don't mind at all giving someone a hand UP, however, I'm pretty damned selective about whom I give a HANDOUT to! As it is now, the number of those who "work for a living" have difficulty overcoming the current "vote for a living leaches!" When we taxpayers give non-taxpayers an inch they end up taking miles and miles; and that's really a damned shame!

Read "Rules for Radicals DEFEATED" by Jeff Hedgpeth (available and inexpensive on Amazon); learn how to respond to the Marxist BS that the liberal democrats spew forth upon us to divide our country into controllable factions. It'll be worth your time, and a help drive a stake through the heart of Marxist liberal socialism, the cancer of our land!

"Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alinsky IS the basic Obama playbook for his dark-side strategy; we must defeat him and them. It won't be easy; the Alinsky plan is very effective, particularly for the sheeple who have been programmed by Communist leaning educators in the last couple or three decades in our public school system and liberal universities, and the illegal migrants (not immigrants), and the infamous deceased democratic voters. Logic, a good work ethic, and common sense are not their strong suites, and they are easily lead or resurrected. The modern "vote for a living" inhabitants of our country are taught to want something for nothing and how to squeak to get it! Teaching illegals to thwart the social system of the USA is BIG BUSINESS, and billions of dollars are skimmed from the cash box of the US Treasury to pay for it! Ever wonder whose money they are using for this? Ever wonder why we can't seem to ever get the borders closed, or the drug and human trafficking stopped, or can't come to terms with calling migrants immigrants and getting the flood of illegal aliens stopped? Why are they trying to stop us from calling "anchor babies" what they really are; anchors to bring in hordes of illegal aliens using an "unintended loophole" in the Bill of Rights as an "anchor" to cling to when sneaking people into the country pseudo-legally? Most likely our own government is involved in the profits from these things. Follow the money, it might amaze you!

Ever wonder why most people call the United States of America just America, when, "America" is so broad it covers two continents, while the United States is just one country on one of these two continents, just like Brazil or Mexico or Canada? I guess we are just so lazy that we resort to slang to describe the United States of America. It's a small point, about on the order of the fact that a crowded elevator smells a bit different to a short person; most people don't really notice it or care, unless, of course, they're very short. So, be kind to short people, too; wear clean underwear and hold your gas in crowd. ;<)

Big Finance is the farce of a game they play, they run the government on fiat money and it is cheaper to run the government on the interest we pay to our debtors and continue to keep adding to the principal of the loan. The government has no intention, budget or not, of ever repaying our 18Trillion dollar National Debt, and the Federal Reserve Bank along with the Big World Bank financiers (the Super-Wealthy Elites) are promoting it; eventually, we will either have to fight them or lose our country, and they own the Military forces! You figure out what will happen. NWO Agenda 21, to be completed in the 21st Century as it's title implies, comes to my mind.

To succeed, we must re-establish the "UNITED States of America," from their current socialist "disUnited States of Amerika" as orchestrated by Obama and his cult or coup. In other words, learn to work together as a team for rebuilding the USA, not tearing it down!

God Bless the USA, not "God Damn America" as the ir-Reverend Jeremiah Wright (Obama's dark-side spiritual mentor) screams at the top of his lungs to his congregation! Have a nice day.

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Aug 31, 2015 14:59:29   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
It bothers me also. I am not standing up for the rich guy. Hell I wish I was one. Compared to some I am, others not so much. Where you people get the idea that the rich don't pay taxes is beyond me. It is easily looked up. The top 10% of income earner's pay about 70% of all Federal taxes. That's the truth. You can say that's not enough but you cannot say (and be right) that they don't pay taxes. You should look up government waste, fraud, and inefficiency then tell me you don't mind your tax dollars going to social programs. Do you receive benefits from the government besides Medicare and Social Security? Read up on the fair and or flat tax. I believe you will find these proposals make sense. Taxing progressively was never about paying your fair share. It is about power. Plain and simple.
She Wolf wrote:
It bothers me because the "rich guy" is taking far more than my dollar. He pays little or no taxes. He owns my government. I do not wish to be a slave of the elite.

It doesn't bother me in the least when my tax dollars go to social programs designed to help my fellow citizens. I don't mind sharing. I do mind greedy people, who will never have enough. How many tax breaks are enough? How large a divide does there need to be? It seems to me since we have been giving a free ride to corporations and the wealthy our economy has been destroyed. If this continues we will soon a society much as the one we fought a revolution to be rid of.
It bothers me because the "rich guy" is ... (show quote)

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Aug 31, 2015 15:42:48   #
She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia
 
JFlorio wrote:
It bothers me also. I am not standing up for the rich guy. Hell I wish I was one. Compared to some I am, others not so much. Where you people get the idea that the rich don't pay taxes is beyond me. It is easily looked up. The top 10% of income earner's pay about 70% of all Federal taxes. That's the truth. You can say that's not enough but you cannot say (and be right) that they don't pay taxes. You should look up government waste, fraud, and inefficiency then tell me you don't mind your tax dollars going to social programs. Do you receive benefits from the government besides Medicare and Social Security? Read up on the fair and or flat tax. I believe you will find these proposals make sense. Taxing progressively was never about paying your fair share. It is about power. Plain and simple.
It bothers me also. I am not standing up for the r... (show quote)


The rich simply do not pay their fair share. Capital gains, inherited monies, and most of their income over a certain percentage is tax free due to the many loop holes provided for them. Many corporations not only pay no taxes but receive refunds on monies they never paid. You do some research on this.

Why do you assume I receive anything from the government? Every thing I have in this world, I earned. I just realize I have had opportunities not afforded some people. The only thing I receive from this government is a tax bill, which I pay in full.

Do you receive large tax breaks? Is that why you feel it is ok for the elite not to pay their fair share? A flat tax would be ok as long as it applies to corporations as well. No loop holes just a flat tax on your profits. Otherwise it is just another working man's tax.

Do you think it is justice that a CEO makes 300 times more money than the people doing the actual work. Do you think it was ok to take my tax money and bail out banks? One should rise or fall on their own merit. Governments bailing out businesses is not capitalism.

I would like to know where the trillions of funds the Pentagon wasted actually went. I would like to know why a drug costs $70.00 in Europe and the same drug cost $180.00 in America. I would like to know why I must participate in the Social Security system but the elite are exempt after a certain figure.

My point is, there is far more fraud committed in many of the other programs in this country than in the social ones.

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Aug 31, 2015 17:08:23   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I didn't assume, I asked. Who determines what someone's fair share is . Typical liberal response. Someone has a lot and you want some of it. Get rid of all loopholes for individuals and corporations would be fine with me. Si I take it the top 10% paying 70% of Federal Taxes didn't impress you? You want more taxes then complain about the pentagon and regulations (FDA) that raise prices. Government wastes money. If you read the flat tax or fair tax you would know that I am against loopholes. I think what some CEO's make is ridiculous but none of my business. If the stupid shareholders are O.K. with it what do I care. Does it bother you when actors make millions for a stupid movie? I agree about Social Security and health care. The elites in Washington should be under the same rules as the rest of us.
She Wolf wrote:
The rich simply do not pay their fair share. Capital gains, inherited monies, and most of their income over a certain percentage is tax free due to the many loop holes provided for them. Many corporations not only pay no taxes but receive refunds on monies they never paid. You do some research on this.

Why do you assume I receive anything from the government? Every thing I have in this world, I earned. I just realize I have had opportunities not afforded some people. The only thing I receive from this government is a tax bill, which I pay in full.

Do you receive large tax breaks? Is that why you feel it is ok for the elite not to pay their fair share? A flat tax would be ok as long as it applies to corporations as well. No loop holes just a flat tax on your profits. Otherwise it is just another working man's tax.

Do you think it is justice that a CEO makes 300 times more money than the people doing the actual work. Do you think it was ok to take my tax money and bail out banks? One should rise or fall on their own merit. Governments bailing out businesses is not capitalism.

I would like to know where the trillions of funds the Pentagon wasted actually went. I would like to know why a drug costs $70.00 in Europe and the same drug cost $180.00 in America. I would like to know why I must participate in the Social Security system but the elite are exempt after a certain figure.

My point is, there is far more fraud committed in many of the other programs in this country than in the social ones.
The rich simply do not pay their fair share. Capi... (show quote)

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Aug 31, 2015 17:13:59   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
She Wolf wrote:
I believe it was Ghandi who said: "Live simply so others may simply live".

We have become a nation of greed. We have bought into the propaganda that the only way to help our fellow man is to have something taken away from us. In our never ending quest for the all mighty dollar, we have become one of the cruelest places on earth.

It is far to easy for some of us to remove ourselves from the plight of the poor. They simply are not human to us. If every person had to live just one week on the street, we would gain a whole new prospective. If all we had to live on was the so called charities and government subsidizes, we would see they are a farce. But we justify our behavior by pretending we are doing something for the poor in this country.

We are no longer a country under God, we are a country under Greed and Pettiness.
I believe it was Ghandi who said: "Live simp... (show quote)


What do you mean WE,, I will not buy in to your guilt trip .

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Aug 31, 2015 17:15:00   #
ProudVeteran69 Loc: Seattle,Washington
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
By letting our self's be divided we have allowed others to have greater control over us.

Each day we become a bit more imprisoned.

So many of us sell our souls for the almighty dollar.

Seeing how so many of us think & do things leaves me to believe that we will never be United against those that have enslaved us.

To get by most of us are here to just see that our efforts are seen as just a means to see that more money keeps flowing to the top.

As more wealth has ended up in few hands most of us have seen a reduction in our share of the pie.
By letting our self's be divided we have allowed o... (show quote)




:thumbup: United We stand, Divided we fall, and we all need to climb on board the American Ship of Unity, and work together, other wise we will never Win!!!!

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Sep 1, 2015 09:33:20   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
ProudVeteran69 wrote:
:thumbup: United We stand, Divided we fall, and we all need to climb on board the American Ship of Unity, and work together, other wise we will never Win!!!!


To me it is not about winning but where my voice carries as much weight as any one else.

To have a system that is good for the most is better. To have that is what we deserve. It is not something we win.

Be cause some one has more dollars than me should not mean his voice on issues that pertain to all of us is stronger.

I do feel that my voice & your voice should be based on the basis of logic & reason. A system that we ALL can enjoy & be an important part of.

To rate ones success on how many dollars they have is not a sign of true success.

It is the over all improvement & standard of living that is available for all who live on this earth.

What is need is for each of us at some time say I have enough.
It is like saying I have what I feel is enough to live a good life & having more don't add much to the quality of my life.

The quality of each of our life's is intertwined with the quality of life of all others.

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