Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

If you see any thing you can agree with please leave it in.
Remove what you disagree with.
I hope that will make some sense.

It don't matter what is used to back money it is who controls the backing.

Money makes money. Money Changers play games with money. Money Changes use debt to create money.
We are all slaves to the money changers.

All that is really needed with money & the flow of it is to see that there is enough money to match the demand for the supply of products being sold.

It is all about who controls the printing of the money.
Not what is used for money.

Our money is backed by the Full Faith of the American public.
Yes it is a debt that we all have to pay interest on.
Yes we can just print the money with out the Fed & debt.
It would still be backed by the Full Faith of the American Public.

Now it becomes more of a problem:

The hardest part is to print or control the right amount of money in supply.
It must closely match supply & demand.
Too much of either is bad. Too little of either is bad.

Then the issue is just who controls the Numbers being used.
Having the right balance means a fair value the people can trust.
Lacking fair balance trust is lost.

Each of us will be able to set our value with each other on the price we put on what we feel is a fair price for each of our transactions.

It would be in the best interest of all to have those setting the printing to adjust to the value put on the money to keep a sounder value.

To see how the value is changing one could use a market basket of products.

CowboyMilt

AND RID OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE! EPA IRS & OTHER USELESS GOVERNMENT ENTITIES...INCLUDING ALL MUSLIM CZARS & ETC.

son of witless

Every country is devaluing it's currency to discourage imports and encourage exports. Normally that would lead to high inflation, but we are still in a deflationary spiral. Other than debasing their money, none of the major countries knows how to fight the deflation.

Since all of the major countries plus the US are Socialist and quasi Socialist economies the world economy is unlikely to become robust until some real capitalists take over again.

jelun

That's one point of view.
Others would say that so long as the oligarchs just share a pittance with the government officials they want to control, and do nothing to assist growth of the economy nothing will happen.
None of this has anything to do with what the OP requested.

LOL, we don't do well with orders around here.

son of witless

I don't catch your meaning. Guess I am slow today.

jelun

My point is that we have been a quasi-socialist government for at least one hundred years... using an adequate education provided by our friends and neighbors and "modern" roadways used by many as a gauge for wide spread socialism...with several advances and even more bumps in the road we have managed to keep on truckin'. So if we are falling apart now the only reason would be because our rich are greedier than ever.

Mr.D the CG Loc: Boston

Hi Floyd, isn't that true of the stock market too? D

Mr.D the CG Loc: Boston

Ok all, Mr. Webster says, Liberal - given or provided in a generous and openhanded way. also - not opposed to new ideas or ways of behaving that are traditional or widely accepted.
Conservative - not liking or accepting changes or new ideas. also - tending or disposed to maintain existing views.
Wow,so I guess I would be a Conservative Liberal or a Liberal Conservative depend on ur (point of view). I am a little confused now. I really don't know what I am. All I can really say is I am a Patriot that wants a Responsible government with Common sense. That's to much to ask for I guess? D

son of witless

You know what? You have a point. I totally agree with you. Your brilliant logic has turned me into a Marxist-Socialist-Progressive . You are right I hate the rich. Those evil bastards need to get what is coming to them. We need to take from the rich and give to the poor, US!

I know a couple of Billionaires we can start with. Lets clean em out. Confiscate all of their money. They have been living off of the sweat of us poor people long enough. Tom and George, we are coming for your dough.

Mr.D the CG Loc: Boston

Oh come now, son of witless, If u became a billionaire tomorrow I should hate u and take ur money away. Do u really think this way. If u do, that's ur right but I'm not buying in. What are u trying to say or accomplish here?
I thought with my last message it was to state that logic and common sense should prevail in gov't.. D

son of witless

You must not know who Tom and George are. If you can figure that out you may get the sarcasm. Hint, they are the puppet masters, the string pullers, the dance instructors of our misfit toy government.

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

Another spin on Hitlerism. The left wants everyone to think all our woes and failures are the results of some room filled with rich people that "have it out for the poor"....

IDIOT!

The best possible course for a Nation to have is for EVERYONE to be successful, well off. Cash flow beats out financial debt any day.

Open your wallet, if you have nothing in it, it does not do anything for you...but if it is full, you can do many many things.......simple commen sense.

Hitler made the population of German BOND together the best he could by making big speeches making the wealthy in Germany the fault of the economy and zeroed in on Wealthy Jews. Obama had done the same damned thing....liberals suck it right up. The Wealthy in the USA are NOT your enemy...this run away Government that is out of control with a lunatic President IS our enemy.

LIBERALS are the enemy.

Mr.D the CG Loc: Boston

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: and may I add it's not just the Pres.. but Congress as well! They've been doing it for decades and are completely out of control and do not care for our country or it's people. Me, Me, Me and money, money are their masters. P.S., our debt continues to rise at the rate of $1 million a day. Here's one for you that's how much $ that is given to the Planned Parenthood Program. that performs more abortions on women with fetuses that are fully developed than any other organization in the U.S.. Our gov't in the abortion busy that's simply crazy. Also there are over 200 other gov't programs giving money away like this. D

jelun

Yes, that is absolutely right.
Everyone wants to just take all the REALLY rich have as just like a three or four year old there is no middle ground. There can be no "pay your fair share" and still have 50 Billion dollars left which continues to earn more money hourly.

Toddlers do not run the world.

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

You have ANY money at all? If so, how about letting me just take it because I think I have a right to it...and really as dumb as you are, what money you would have you will just throw it away on crap.