Instead of climate change how about a REAL problem? Anthropogenic climate change is where the money is. The lies and horsecrap that have been disseminated about this...

Loki Loc: Georgia

Anthropogenic climate change is where the money is. The lies and horsecrap that have been disseminated about this tempest-in-a-teacup are monumental. Meanwhile, a very real and immediate environmental problem is receiving NO attention, doubtless because hacks have not figured out how to make a buck from this incipient disaster.
I am referring to the honeybee die off. While there appears to be more than one reason for this occurrence, one of the biggest ones is, indeed, man caused, and involves pesticides allowed by the Environmental Propaganda Agency. The same agency that is single-handedly destroying the coal industry is also doing the same for honeybees. The US coal industry produces less than 5% of the coal caused pollution in the world, and is by far the cleanest and most efficient on this ball of dirt we call home. That's not good enough for the overpaid, underbrained and politically-driven hairballs at the EPA. They are being used as Obama's personal hit squad to further his agenda, while a real problem, the honeybee die off, is completely ignored.
I have seen maybe 10 honeybees in my garden this year. They used to be on it like a blanket. Bear in mind, my wife and I garden completely without pesticides, unlike our neighbors.
While the jury is still out, I personally think that the use of neonicotinoids, (neurotoxins found in the new pesticides ), is playing a large part in the extermination of honeybees. Bear in mind that honeybees are responsible for about one third of the crops in this country.
The European Union has banned the use of the two most common of these new neurotoxins, pending a thorough study. The EPA is too busy tilting at political windmills and acting like the clueless apparatchiks they are to do the same in this country. I have included several links. Some are a bit lengthy, but this is a very important topic. Not as exciting as Donald Trump and Hillary the Harridan, but far more important to our long term well-being.

http://www.revealnews.org/article/everything-you-wanted-to-know-about-the-bee-die-off/

http://earthjustice.org/features/the-case-of-the-vanishing-honey-bee?gclid=Cj0KEQjwmNuuBRDTu5rDjr2kxJsBEiQAWlm6UvNRro7dOpCrHpBgPGU0s7lkaR1AGYZ4KKThbN

http://www.globalresearch.ca/death-and-extinction-of-the-bees/5375684

http://qz.com/107970/scientists-discover-whats-killing-the-bees-and-its-worse-than-you-thought/

rocketride

Loki wrote:

Anthropogenic climate change is where the money is. The lies and horsecrap that have been disseminated about this tempest-in-a-teacup are monumental. Meanwhile, a very real and immediate environmental problem is receiving NO attention, doubtless because hacks have not figured out how to make a buck from this incipient disaster.
I am referring to the honeybee die off. While there appears to be more than one reason for this occurrence, one of the biggest ones is, indeed, man caused, and involves pesticides allowed by the Environmental Propaganda Agency. The same agency that is single-handedly destroying the coal industry is also doing the same for honeybees. The US coal industry produces less than 5% of the coal caused pollution in the world, and is by far the cleanest and most efficient on this ball of dirt we call home. That's not good enough for the overpaid, underbrained and politically-driven hairballs at the EPA. They are being used as Obama's personal hit squad to further his agenda, while a real problem, the honeybee die off, is completely ignored.
I have seen maybe 10 honeybees in my garden this year. They used to be on it like a blanket. Bear in mind, my wife and I garden completely without pesticides, unlike our neighbors.
While the jury is still out, I personally think that the use of neonicotinoids, (neurotoxins found in the new pesticides ), is playing a large part in the extermination of honeybees. Bear in mind that honeybees are responsible for about one third of the crops in this country.
The European Union has banned the use of the two most common of these new neurotoxins, pending a thorough study. The EPA is too busy tilting at political windmills and acting like the clueless apparatchiks they are to do the same in this country. I have included several links. Some are a bit lengthy, but this is a very important topic. Not as exciting as Donald Trump and Hillary the Harridan, but far more important to our long term well-being.

http://www.revealnews.org/article/everything-you-wanted-to-know-about-the-bee-die-off/

http://earthjustice.org/features/the-case-of-the-vanishing-honey-bee?gclid=Cj0KEQjwmNuuBRDTu5rDjr2kxJsBEiQAWlm6UvNRro7dOpCrHpBgPGU0s7lkaR1AGYZ4KKThbN

http://www.globalresearch.ca/death-and-extinction-of-the-bees/5375684

http://qz.com/107970/scientists-discover-whats-killing-the-bees-and-its-worse-than-you-thought/

Anthropogenic climate change is where the money is... (show quote)

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peter11937 Loc: NYS

Loki wrote:

Anthropogenic climate change is where the money is. The lies and horsecrap that have been disseminated about this tempest-in-a-teacup are monumental. Meanwhile, a very real and immediate environmental problem is receiving NO attention, doubtless because hacks have not figured out how to make a buck from this incipient disaster.
I am referring to the honeybee die off. While there appears to be more than one reason for this occurrence, one of the biggest ones is, indeed, man caused, and involves pesticides allowed by the Environmental Propaganda Agency. The same agency that is single-handedly destroying the coal industry is also doing the same for honeybees. The US coal industry produces less than 5% of the coal caused pollution in the world, and is by far the cleanest and most efficient on this ball of dirt we call home. That's not good enough for the overpaid, underbrained and politically-driven hairballs at the EPA. They are being used as Obama's personal hit squad to further his agenda, while a real problem, the honeybee die off, is completely ignored.
I have seen maybe 10 honeybees in my garden this year. They used to be on it like a blanket. Bear in mind, my wife and I garden completely without pesticides, unlike our neighbors.
While the jury is still out, I personally think that the use of neonicotinoids, (neurotoxins found in the new pesticides ), is playing a large part in the extermination of honeybees. Bear in mind that honeybees are responsible for about one third of the crops in this country.
The European Union has banned the use of the two most common of these new neurotoxins, pending a thorough study. The EPA is too busy tilting at political windmills and acting like the clueless apparatchiks they are to do the same in this country. I have included several links. Some are a bit lengthy, but this is a very important topic. Not as exciting as Donald Trump and Hillary the Harridan, but far more important to our long term well-being.

http://www.revealnews.org/article/everything-you-wanted-to-know-about-the-bee-die-off/

http://earthjustice.org/features/the-case-of-the-vanishing-honey-bee?gclid=Cj0KEQjwmNuuBRDTu5rDjr2kxJsBEiQAWlm6UvNRro7dOpCrHpBgPGU0s7lkaR1AGYZ4KKThbN

http://www.globalresearch.ca/death-and-extinction-of-the-bees/5375684

http://qz.com/107970/scientists-discover-whats-killing-the-bees-and-its-worse-than-you-thought/

Anthropogenic climate change is where the money is... (show quote)

Yes, I think these toxins are the same or very close to the nerve agent VX developed by the US Army based on a WW2 agent developed but never used by the German military. A neighbor was retired military non com and was dying after exposure near Ft. Carson CO, he had been wearing full anti-chem agent gear , but the tiny amount gave him any problems physically and the final killer was cancer throughout his body.
If they are killing the bees, what level will start killing us?

solarkin

peter11937 wrote:

Yes, I think these toxins are the same or very close to the nerve agent VX developed by the US Army based on a WW2 agent developed but never used by the German military. A neighbor was retired military non com and was dying after exposure near Ft. Carson CO, he had been wearing full anti-chem agent gear , but the tiny amount gave him any problems physically and the final killer was cancer throughout his body.
If they are killing the bees, what level will start killing us?

Toxins have been around a long time.
Genetic diversity either succumbs, or ignores it.

solarkin

solarkin wrote:

Toxins have been around a long time.
Genetic diversity either succumbs, or ignores it.

If the honeybees die off,..

We really need to open the border.
Job needed, pollinators

solarkin

rocketride wrote:

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Aren't insecticides neurotoxins?

solarkin

solarkin wrote:

Toxins have been around a long time.
Genetic diversity either succumbs, or ignores it.

Germans used crap loads of VX in WW1

solarkin

solarkin wrote:

Germans used crap loads of VX in WW1

Yeah, ok the Brits didn't make it until the 50's, ok.

CowboyMilt

Loki wrote:

Anthropogenic climate change is where the money is. The lies and horsecrap that have been disseminated about this tempest-in-a-teacup are monumental. Meanwhile, a very real and immediate environmental problem is receiving NO attention, doubtless because hacks have not figured out how to make a buck from this incipient disaster.
I am referring to the honeybee die off. While there appears to be more than one reason for this occurrence, one of the biggest ones is, indeed, man caused, and involves pesticides allowed by the Environmental Propaganda Agency. The same agency that is single-handedly destroying the coal industry is also doing the same for honeybees. The US coal industry produces less than 5% of the coal caused pollution in the world, and is by far the cleanest and most efficient on this ball of dirt we call home. That's not good enough for the overpaid, underbrained and politically-driven hairballs at the EPA. They are being used as Obama's personal hit squad to further his agenda, while a real problem, the honeybee die off, is completely ignored.
I have seen maybe 10 honeybees in my garden this year. They used to be on it like a blanket. Bear in mind, my wife and I garden completely without pesticides, unlike our neighbors.
While the jury is still out, I personally think that the use of neonicotinoids, (neurotoxins found in the new pesticides ), is playing a large part in the extermination of honeybees. Bear in mind that honeybees are responsible for about one third of the crops in this country.
The European Union has banned the use of the two most common of these new neurotoxins, pending a thorough study. The EPA is too busy tilting at political windmills and acting like the clueless apparatchiks they are to do the same in this country. I have included several links. Some are a bit lengthy, but this is a very important topic. Not as exciting as Donald Trump and Hillary the Harridan, but far more important to our long term well-being.

http://www.revealnews.org/article/everything-you-wanted-to-know-about-the-bee-die-off/

http://earthjustice.org/features/the-case-of-the-vanishing-honey-bee?gclid=Cj0KEQjwmNuuBRDTu5rDjr2kxJsBEiQAWlm6UvNRro7dOpCrHpBgPGU0s7lkaR1AGYZ4KKThbN

http://www.globalresearch.ca/death-and-extinction-of-the-bees/5375684

http://qz.com/107970/scientists-discover-whats-killing-the-bees-and-its-worse-than-you-thought/

Anthropogenic climate change is where the money is... (show quote)

THE EPA SHOULD BE THE 1ST TO GO...WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP GET'S INAUGURATED!

solarkin

solarkin wrote:

Germans used crap loads of VX in WW1

I was mistaken.
I was wrong.
Just phosgene and chlorine and mustard gss.

Loki Loc: Georgia

solarkin wrote:

If the honeybees die off,..

We really need to open the border.
Job needed, pollinators

Since when do drones pollinate?

peter11937 Loc: NYS

solarkin wrote:

Germans used crap loads of VX in WW1

Mustard and phosgene in WW1. No gas used in combat in WW2.

solarkin

peter11937 wrote:

Mustard and phosgene in WW1. No gas used in combat in WW2.

Yes, I was incorrect.
I was just wrong.
I didn't mispeak.
I was just not correct.

rocketride

peter11937 wrote:

Mustard and phosgene in WW1. No gas used in combat in WW2.

The Germans did develop at least two 'nerve' gases, Sarin and Tabun, before/during WW2 but never quite dared to use them.

peter11937 Loc: NYS

rocketride wrote:

The Germans did develop at least two 'nerve' gases, Sarin and Tabun, before/during WW2 but never quite dared to use them.

Yes, the Allies had stockpiled tons of chemical agents and the Germans knew they'd be on the short end of that stick, many Generals having seen it up close and personal in 1918 knew just how awful it could get..