Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

This was copied from another topic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A


This contains the story of our internment quite well.

It is sad that so many feel that they must serve the farmers blindly.

I take heart in the truth that we the farmed can regain our positions as farmers.

It can & given the time needed will be done with out force.

The needed is simple. There most arise farmers who run their farms with the idea of treating the farmed better.

There are those among us now that run their farms the way they should be run.

Bottom line if you wish to change the course of history & keep what has been good about life. One needs to say at some point I have enough so that I can live a fruitful life & make it my goal to see that those around me can have the goodness of life I have.

It is not a matter of giving or taking but a matter of sharing what we can create together. May we all have our little well run farms.

If we wish to be truly free we can only be free if every one is truly free.

There remains a point when caring about the fate of others shrinks too low to sustain the fabric of society. At that point mankind as to start over & build a new society.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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And hopefully that new society will be one of total freedom - peaceful anarchy (no ruler), no emperor, no king, no congress, no president, no politician of any sort, no taxes, no one who is higher ranking than the lowliest of us. We have learned how fragile our form of government is and how easily it can be overthrown, and how weak and ignorant our citizens are that they will put a snake into the highest office in the land. This will be repeated and repeated and repeated if we try to sustain what has FAILED so easily.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

You sure hang on to this freedom thing.

We are all free to do what we want & if others don't like it they are free to do to us what ever they wish.

So in any situation with more than one person measures (Rules) are needed to get along.

The bigger the group the more complex the rules become.

I am completely with you on the issue of the level of control over us by others.

But when two people like us fail to see things in the same light
it lets others have the freedom to impose their level of control over us.

I have been reading what you write for some time & feel that how you put your thoughts down don't show the true caring person I think you are.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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I would have responded sooner, but I no longer get notices, for some reason.

Yes, I am big on freedom.......freedom is what our soldiers die for, and most Americans don't even know what freedom is because they have never experienced it. I have never experienced it. Oh, I have experienced what the PTB have ALLOWED ME TO EXPERIENCE. But when they say give me $10.000.00, I do it, because if I do NOT do it, I get fined even more dollars or my home gets possessed by the PTB. If I benefited in any way, shape or form from that theft, I might feel differently, but I do not benefit at all. And you call this freedom???????? Where exactly does your brain reside?

Where did you get this idea: "We are all free to do what we want & if others don't like it they are free to do to us what ever they wish."

That is blatantly untrue IF one wishes to continue living outside a prison. It SHOULD be true, but simply is NOT TRUE.

As to your assessment of me. Don't worry about me, I'm a big girl and can take care of myself unless another American who doesn't know diddly gets me killed. In which case I cannot respond the way I would like to respond. I don't know who you are or how you utilize logic, but I DO KNOW MY MIND, and I think I am living among some of the dumbest creatures on earth, from whom I expect no help whatsoever.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

The extent of our freedom is limited to the depth of our pockets.

The more money we have the more freedom we can enjoy.

For most to have more money one has to give up much of ones freedom.

We live in a world where a few control the most money & then that controls the freedom of most of the rest of us.

I have enough to be able to choose from doing a few things from a list on many things. By not doing some things I am able to keep some options open.

I think that you should review just how you really state your views on what freedom means to you

You seem to think one should have unlimited options with out any limits.

I would like to know just what you mean by PTB.

I may be as worked up over the same things that you are but don't state it as a loss of freedom.

I feel the issue is really tied up in how we use or interpret words.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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PTB=powers that be (AKA our "rulers", our "dictators")
"You seem to think one should have unlimited options with out any limits." You are wrong. I do NOT believe in unlimited options. I merely feel that 500 some odd criminals have no business making ANY DECISIONS FOR ME. I can do a better job of decision making than they can. I believe ALL LAWS SHOULD BE MADE BY THE LOCAL PEOPLE. THAT WOULD BE A FORM OF FREEDOM. Locally, if one doesn't like the laws, he can move. Nationally that would be impossible for most people; hence, we are chattel to be ruled without redress. DO NOT preach to me about following the laws. I have never broke ANY laws except years ago I drove too fast. I don't do that any more, even though it seems insane that on a stretch of road 200 miles long with 4 lanes and I am the only one on the interstate that I cannot travel the speed I choose to be safe for my driving skills. I don't believe there is a legislator in DC who knows my driving skills OR the roads I travel, do YOU believe there is????

Do you believe that if there is no legislation from DC that more of us would willfully waste the water we rely on, or the food that keeps us alive, or that we would deliberately treat our bodies more badly than we do now? Do you seriously think we will pay no attention to immigration ........ at present we are the ONLY ones paying attention to immigration. Exactly what about being governed do you LIKE or appreciate or wish there was more of? Until people start thinking about the whole picture and what it represents, they won't know how long they have been chattel and not citizens, but slaves. No need for you to read any more of my posts because most of them will be just like this one because I am getting pretty disgusted with people who refuse to see the whole picture. Most are merely nit-picking and not serious at all. And that will be what destroys our nation.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

I see it as our personal life's are overly controled for the economic advantage of others.

Since I have been listening to what takes place on this site I feel that there has been a better understanding of just what is going on.

I feel most of us here are getting better at explaining our views & having greater respect for each other.

Don't get me wrong there is still a long way to go.