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Conservatives Are Finally Admitting What Voter Suppression Laws Are All About
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Aug 27, 2013 02:24:10   #
OPP Newsletter
 
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/08/schlafly-voter-suppression-laws-partisan

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Aug 27, 2013 05:54:08   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
OPP Newsletter wrote:
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/08/schlafly-voter-suppression-laws-partisan


Another load of left-wing propaganda that makes assumptions that are ludicrous. Once again, we hear the cry of "non-existent problems". Every problem obummer has is supposedly "non-existent". The only thing that is truly "nonexistent" is honor and truth in the Democratic Party.

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Aug 27, 2013 06:24:30   #
roy
 
snowbear37 wrote:
Another load of left-wing propaganda that makes assumptions that are ludicrous. Once again, we hear the cry of "non-existent problems". Every problem obummer has is supposedly "non-existent". The only thing that is truly "nonexistent" is honor and truth in the Democratic Party.


the only thing that is truly nonexistent is honor in the republican party

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Aug 27, 2013 07:51:01   #
Dragnet
 
roy wrote:
the only thing that is truly nonexistent is honor in the republican party


Here is only reason (ONLY ONE) that the Dem-wits and Kook-aid drinkers oppose voter ID. It makes it more difficult, not mpossible, for them to cheat in the elections.

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Aug 27, 2013 08:32:35   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Dragnet wrote:
Here is only reason (ONLY ONE) that the Dem-wits and Kook-aid drinkers oppose voter ID. It makes it more difficult, not mpossible, for them to cheat in the elections.


Have you seen Mexico's voter registration laws? They don't fool around. No wonder so many wetbacks come to this country to vote. It's easier.

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Aug 27, 2013 09:19:17   #
Dragnet
 
banjojack wrote:
Have you seen Mexico's voter registration laws? They don't fool around. No wonder so many wetbacks come to this country to vote. It's easier.


Have you familiar with Mexico's Immigration Laws. They do fool around either, but you can easily bribe some be autocrat. They learned all of this from the experts in Chicago.

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Aug 27, 2013 09:49:47   #
roy
 
Dragnet wrote:
Here is only reason (ONLY ONE) that the Dem-wits and Kook-aid drinkers oppose voter ID. It makes it more difficult, not mpossible, for them to cheat in the elections.


and you think in your mind republicans dont try to cheat in elections

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Aug 27, 2013 09:50:14   #
emarine
 
Dragnet wrote:
Have you familiar with Mexico's Immigration Laws. They do fool around either, but you can easily bribe some be autocrat. They learned all of this from the experts in Chicago.
North Carolina, One of the most beautiful places on the planet, but also has one of the largest natural gas reserves lying just off the outer banks. The Big Boys have been trying to tap into this for years but the people of North Carolina voted against it, Now that NC has become the model for precision gerrymandering the people of NC have no voice, Republicans have total control of state Gov. and are slamming new laws through like you change your socks, There once was a good balance here , The voter suppression is just the start, if you care to live in the wild west move here. just bring your own bullets.

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Aug 27, 2013 09:56:05   #
Dragnet
 
roy wrote:
and you think in your mind republicans dont try to cheat in elections



No, they don't. Just is left-wing propaganda. They just have a problem of being wimps.

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Aug 27, 2013 09:57:03   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Blacks and other minorities are too dumb to obtain ID, so goes the meme of the liberals and they may be right because so few minorities even understand they're being insulted by these liberals.

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Aug 27, 2013 10:07:15   #
emarine
 
Dave wrote:
Blacks and other minorities are too dumb to obtain ID, so goes the meme of the liberals and they may be right because so few minorities even understand they're being insulted by these liberals.
Hey Dave... you forgot to slam old white voters who with age came wisdom , they have lived through this crap before and have learned how to read between the lies, many are too old to drive and have no ID to vote.

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Aug 27, 2013 10:18:16   #
Dragnet
 
emarine wrote:
North Carolina, One of the most beautiful places on the planet, but also has one of the largest natural gas reserves lying just off the outer banks. The Big Boys have been trying to tap into this for years but the people of North Carolina voted against it, Now that NC has become the model for precision gerrymandering the people of NC have no voice, Republicans have total control of state Gov. and are slamming new laws through like you change your socks, There once was a good balance here , The voter suppression is just the start, if you care to live in the wild west move here. just bring your own bullets.
North Carolina, One of the most beautiful places o... (show quote)


Let's see if anyone can board an airline, or get in to see the anointed one without an ID. Just try it. Voter ID is mandatory along with a paper ballot.

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Aug 27, 2013 10:24:36   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
emarine wrote:
Hey Dave... you forgot to slam old white voters who with age came wisdom , they have lived through this crap before and have learned how to read between the lies, many are too old to drive and have no ID to vote.


I'll leave that for you - assuming the ones you refer to are too dumb to know that there are other forms of ID than driver license.

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Aug 27, 2013 10:58:11   #
rumitoid
 
OPP Newsletter wrote:
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/08/schlafly-voter-suppression-laws-partisan


I think the problem of understanding how these voter ID laws, which include other provisions that have nothing to do with preventing voter fraud but are targeted demographic-specific, suppress the vote is not understanding or refusing to believe what abject poverty is like.

It seems many have a rather low opinion of the poor: they are lazy and irresponsible spending their fat welfare checks on drugs and Oreos and diapers for the children they mass produce to get mo' money to spend on drugs and Oreos. For those who believe this way, the expense of getting an official state ID will not appear like a Poll Tax.

A brief history lesson:
In U.S. practice, a poll tax was used as a de facto or implicit pre-condition of the exercise of the ability to vote. This tax emerged in some states of the United States in the late 19th century as part of the Jim Crow laws. After the ability to vote was extended to all races by the enactment of the Fifteenth Amendment, many Southern states enacted poll tax laws as a means of restricting eligible voters; such laws often included a grandfather clause, which allowed any adult male whose father or grandfather had voted in a specific year prior to the abolition of slavery to vote without paying the tax. These laws, along with unfairly implemented literacy tests and extra-legal intimidation,[1] achieved the desired effect of disfranchising African-American and Native American voters, as well as poor whites.

If there is no state law to carry an official ID, demanding one go through the time and expense to get one in order to vote qualifies as a Jim Crow Law in the form of a Poll Tax.
For millions of families, the cost is a burden. When PA passed their voter ID law (with those targeted demographic provisions), it was announced from the floor of the PA legislature that it would help elect Romney in 2012. It didn't work but they knew the reason for their law: suppress the democratic turn out.

Churchill said, "If you aren't a liberal when you are young, you have no heart, and if you are not a conservation when you get older, you have no brain." In general, the majority of young people vote liberal. NC did away with early registration for 16 and 17 year olds: why? In other Red states, a hunting license is valid to vote but a student ID is not: why?

If you follow the demographics, the provisions of the NC voter ID law targets restricting traditional Democrat voters. Is that fraud? Or just dirty politics?

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Aug 27, 2013 11:04:49   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
rumitoid wrote:
I think the problem of understanding how these voter ID laws, which include other provisions that have nothing to do with preventing voter fraud but are targeted demographic-specific, suppress the vote is not understanding or refusing to believe what abject poverty is like.

It seems many have a rather low opinion of the poor: they are lazy and irresponsible spending their fat welfare checks on drugs and Oreos and diapers for the children they mass produce to get mo' money to spend on drugs and Oreos. For those who believe this way, the expense of getting an official state ID will not appear like a Poll Tax.

A brief history lesson:
In U.S. practice, a poll tax was used as a de facto or implicit pre-condition of the exercise of the ability to vote. This tax emerged in some states of the United States in the late 19th century as part of the Jim Crow laws. After the ability to vote was extended to all races by the enactment of the Fifteenth Amendment, many Southern states enacted poll tax laws as a means of restricting eligible voters; such laws often included a grandfather clause, which allowed any adult male whose father or grandfather had voted in a specific year prior to the abolition of slavery to vote without paying the tax. These laws, along with unfairly implemented literacy tests and extra-legal intimidation,[1] achieved the desired effect of disfranchising African-American and Native American voters, as well as poor whites.

If there is no state law to carry an official ID, demanding one go through the time and expense to get one in order to vote qualifies as a Jim Crow Law in the form of a Poll Tax.
For millions of families, the cost is a burden. When PA passed their voter ID law (with those targeted demographic provisions), it was announced from the floor of the PA legislature that it would help elect Romney in 2012. It didn't work but they knew the reason for their law: suppress the democratic turn out.

Churchill said, "If you aren't a liberal when you are young, you have no heart, and if you are not a conservation when you get older, you have no brain." In general, the majority of young people vote liberal. NC did away with early registration for 16 and 17 year olds: why? In other Red states, a hunting license is valid to vote but a student ID is not: why?

If you follow the demographics, the provisions of the NC voter ID law targets restricting traditional Democrat voters. Is that fraud? Or just dirty politics?
I think the problem of understanding how these vot... (show quote)


Is it required to have ID in order to recieve welfare, food stamps, etc?

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