payne1000 wrote:
When you tell such blatant lies, it's very easy to expose those lies:
payne1000-you are indeed a fool. Israel warns,in advance, of intended strikes and their targets. They do this with leaflets or by phone . Just google these items and find out for yourself. We are tired of your inane rants. Hamas purposely wants Palestinians killed because they believe it enhances their cause. You appear to have a one track mind or are seriously mentally challenged. In either case, with American friends like yourself, Israel does not need any enemies. Good Luck America !!!
LAPhil wrote:
payne, you're so totally obsessed with this subject you probably even dream about it. Get help, you're a very sick person.
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Ricko wrote:
payne1000-you are indeed a fool. Israel warns,in advance, of intended strikes and their targets. They do this with leaflets or by phone . Just google these items and find out for yourself. We are tired of your inane rants. Hamas purposely wants Palestinians killed because they believe it enhances their cause. You appear to have a one track mind or are seriously mentally challenged. In either case, with American friends like yourself, Israel does not need any enemies. Good Luck America !!!
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Israel created Hamas. Israel controls Hamas. Hamas gives Israel an excuse to massacre Palestinians. The world is wise to Israel's subterfuge. Out of 196 countries in the world, Israel is 4th from the bottom in world respect.
payne1000 wrote:
Because you have no case . . .
Yeah, yeah, we get it! One countries "self defense" is another countries terrorist act. I'm pretty sure, that Iran's supreme leader ALSO claims that their activities are "self defense".
We and Israel believe that Iran needs to be obliterated and Iran believes that Israel and all Western Nations need to be obliterated, or at least enslaved, so who is right? Well, that's a ridiculous question to ask, because we know the answer will depend on who's asked.
There's not a country on the planet, that does NOT ensure that all it's activities are for it's own benefit - regardless of the drivel they may try to get others to believe - and that definitely includes the USA. That being the case, we MUST accept the fact that everything a National leader says, is designed to put His/her countries needs/wants, in the best possible light and descriptions of their enemies - in the worst possible light.
We also have to understand, that even if Iran stopped funding or supplying Hamas, Hamas would find a replacement within minutes. No terrorist organization ever lacks for money or weapons - and that's damn good news for weapons manufacturers/suppliers - no? Even if every country in the world, forbid it's Governments to fund or supply terrorists, the terrorists would STILL find a way to do their "jobs" - and would be just as successful.
These pictures are accurate. No doubt they were used when appropriate. Sometimes the drones can do the job, sometimes a more powerful weapon has to be used. The truth remains, no weapons need be used if the PA and Hamas would sign a negotiated peace treaty. Murderers, kidnappers and other forms of terror has been used against Israel and it's people. Israel is justified in using any and all methods to combat it.
The Palestinians are approaching a point where they will lose any chance of getting a state of their own, because of terror. The time for a real peace is now!
payne1000 wrote:
Saltwind, you sure can pack a lot of lies into one paragraph. Look at the photos of Israel's bombing of Gaza and explain to readers how Tomahawk like drones cause such massive explosions.
Salty78; Are you a NeoCON, Political Zionist, Ashkenazi, and/ or Hebrew?
Can you be honest as to what you are; without being embarased and having a need to lie?
You make many claims as to what you accuse Payne of being.
Especially that of being anti-Semitic or Muslim; because he exposes Political Zionism, and its NWO agenda.
Israel creates hell on earth for Palestinians "White Phosphorus"
http://youtu.be/s0igorvoBFsAmazing Footage White Phosphorus Gaza
http://youtu.be/YK6uRw6BJIs saltwind 78 wrote:
Israel has never carpet bombed anybody. The weapons that are used, especially the tomahawk like drones are especially fitted to have small war heads to minimize civilian casualties. Compare that with the rockets launched by Hamas and Islamic Jihad that are launched into Israel and designed to cause civilian casualties. The Mosques, hospitals and other civilian targets you mention have another name. They are known as armories.Iran has sworn to destroy Israel. Whatever Israel can do to stop Iran is legitimate self defense.
Payne, I have not heard you comment on any international problem, but the Israeli- Palestinian war. I can think of many international ongoing wars that are at least as bad. Your obsession with the mideast goes far beyond normal concern. It shows that you are either anti Semitic, a Muslim terrorist, or both. The terrorist regiems in the Middle East are all Muslim. If they didn't exist, there would probably be peace there!
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saltwind 78 wrote:
These pictures are accurate. No doubt they were used when appropriate. Sometimes the drones can do the job, sometimes a more powerful weapon has to be used. The truth remains, no weapons need be used if the PA and Hamas would sign a negotiated peace treaty. Murderers, kidnappers and other forms of terror has been used against Israel and it's people. Israel is justified in using any and all methods to combat it.
The Palestinians are approaching a point where they will lose any chance of getting a state of their own, because of terror. The time for a real peace is now!
These pictures are accurate. No doubt they were us... (
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You fail to point out that there is no land left for a Palestinian state.
Do you suggest that Zionists should give back the land they have stolen from the Palestinians in order to enable Palestinians to have a state?
I am an Ashkenazi, Zionist, Conservative Jew. Politically I am a liberal/ progressive. Eagleye, I won't ask you what you are, I already know. You are an antisemetic nazi. I've read your postings before, and I know what an anti semite is.IT'S YOU!
eagleye13 wrote:
Salty78; Are you a NeoCON, Political Zionist, Ashkenazi, and/ or Hebrew?
Can you be honest as to what you are; without being embarased and having a need to lie?
You make many claims as to what you accuse Payne of being.
Especially that of being anti-Semitic or Muslim; because he exposes Political Zionism, and its NWO agenda.
Israel creates hell on earth for Palestinians "White Phosphorus"
http://youtu.be/s0igorvoBFsAmazing Footage White Phosphorus Gaza
http://youtu.be/YK6uRw6BJIsSalty78; Are you a NeoCON, Political Zionist, Ashk... (
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lpnmajor wrote:
Yeah, yeah, we get it! One countries "self defense" is another countries terrorist act. I'm pretty sure, that Iran's supreme leader ALSO claims that their activities are "self defense".
We and Israel believe that Iran needs to be obliterated and Iran believes that Israel and all Western Nations need to be obliterated, or at least enslaved, so who is right? Well, that's a ridiculous question to ask, because we know the answer will depend on who's asked.
There's not a country on the planet, that does NOT ensure that all it's activities are for it's own benefit - regardless of the drivel they may try to get others to believe - and that definitely includes the USA. That being the case, we MUST accept the fact that everything a National leader says, is designed to put His/her countries needs/wants, in the best possible light and descriptions of their enemies - in the worst possible light.
We also have to understand, that even if Iran stopped funding or supplying Hamas, Hamas would find a replacement within minutes. No terrorist organization ever lacks for money or weapons - and that's damn good news for weapons manufacturers/suppliers - no? Even if every country in the world, forbid it's Governments to fund or supply terrorists, the terrorists would STILL find a way to do their "jobs" - and would be just as successful.
Yeah, yeah, we get it! One countries "self de... (
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Can you name one country Iran has attacked since Iran has been in existence? Israel has attacked most of their neighbors including the U.S.
payne1000 wrote:
Israel created Hamas. Israel controls Hamas. Hamas gives Israel an excuse to massacre Palestinians. The world is wise to Israel's subterfuge. Out of 196 countries in the world, Israel is 4th from the bottom in world respect.
It is about time. Thank God for the internet.
It is harder to hide atrocities now.
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Well salty; at least you are honest.
Have you any idea on who financed the Nazi's and the Bolsheviks?
The zionist Banksters did.
As far as you being a "conservative", you have proven yourself to be of the NeoCON fascist variety.
As always; you use the "anti-Semitic" smear. That is not working as much anymore.
Being an Ashkenazi, you are not even Semitic. Arabs and Western Europeans of 10 tribed Israel are Semitic to a great extent. This has been discussed in detail many times.
I am against any form of totalitarianism. The things America used to stand for.
saltwind 78 wrote:
I am an Ashkenazi, Zionist, Conservative Jew. Politically I am a liberal/ progressive. Eagleye, I won't ask you what you are, I already know. You are an antisemetic nazi. I've read your postings before, and I know what an anti semite is.IT'S YOU!
saltwind 78 wrote:
I am an Ashkenazi, Zionist, Conservative Jew. Politically I am a liberal/ progressive. Eagleye, I won't ask you what you are, I already know. You are an antisemetic nazi. I've read your postings before, and I know what an anti semite is.IT'S YOU!
Without participating in the dispute with the other posters, the title of the thread does invite the question: why should anyone believe what the Israeli Prime Minister says about the ability of Iran to make nuclear weapons.
He has cried wolf repeatedly:
http://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/02/brief-history-netanyahu-crying-wolf-iranian-nuclear-bomb/I am not anti-Israel.
saltwind 78 wrote:
I am an Ashkenazi, Zionist, Conservative Jew. Politically I am a liberal/ progressive. Eagleye, I won't ask you what you are, I already know. You are an antisemetic nazi. I've read your postings before, and I know what an anti semite is.IT'S YOU!
Read what a former member of Israel's Knesset says about the word "anti-Semitism":
payne1000 wrote:
You fail to point out that there is no land left for a Palestinian state.
Do you suggest that Zionists should give back the land they have stolen from the Palestinians in order to enable Palestinians to have a state?
No land left? Why does Israel, that only has about 1% of the ME land mass have to give up part of theirs? What about the other 99%? Are you scared that if they did that, Israel would still exist?
Super Dave wrote:
No land left? Why does Israel, that only has about 1% of the ME land mass have to give up part of theirs? What about the other 99%? Are you scared that if they did that, Israel would still exist?
Giving the Zionists someone else's land was a crime from the start.
Here's a valid explanation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3JInrihYqg
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