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Was John McCain the "Tokyo Rose" of Vietnam?
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Jul 20, 2015 16:15:08   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
payne1000 wrote:
As always, you offer no rebuttal. Dimwitted insults are your only defense.

You are an embarrassment to the ultra-conservative cause, JMHO.


Debating a moron is like spitting into the wind...your feeble little brain has been fried and it's a total waste of time debating with you, pal. You are an embarrassment to the human race, pal.

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Jul 20, 2015 16:15:52   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
payne1000 wrote:
Another hairball from dittoman.


More payne1000 selfies!

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Jul 20, 2015 17:07:20   #
payne1000
 
JMHO wrote:
Debating a moron is like spitting into the wind...your feeble little brain has been fried and it's a total waste of time debating with you, pal. You are an embarrassment to the human race, pal.


"On June 6, the Joint Chiefs sent Admiral McCain, father of the senator from Arizona, an urgent message instructing him to move the Liberty out of the war zone to a position at least 100 miles off the Gaza Coast. McCain never forwarded the message to the ship."
http://www.counterpunch.org/2003/10/24/israel-s-attack-on-the-liberty-revisited/

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Jul 20, 2015 17:12:19   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
payne1000 wrote:
"On June 6, the Joint Chiefs sent Admiral McCain, father of the senator from Arizona, an urgent message instructing him to move the Liberty out of the war zone to a position at least 100 miles off the Gaza Coast. McCain never forwarded the message to the ship."
http://www.counterpunch.org/2003/10/24/israel-s-attack-on-the-liberty-revisited/


Blah...blah...blah...yawn...ho hum...just more moronic conspiracy crap from payne1000...nothing new...if it's weird, untrue, non-factual, or just plain bullshit, send it to payne1000, he'll post it.

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Jul 20, 2015 17:33:21   #
payne1000
 
JMHO wrote:
More payne1000 selfies!


"Cutting short his trip in Europe the first week of July, recently-appointed Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Adm. Mike Mullen flew to Tel Aviv along with an entourage of high-ranking US military personnel and, upon his arrival, rushed to meet with the highest-ranking members of Israel’s military establishment. While this is not unusual (as many such meetings have been taking place as of late) what was unusual was the topic discussed–Israel’s attack on the USS Liberty 41 years ago during the 6 day war and how ‘important’ it was that ‘history not repeat itself,’ given the present tensions existing between Israel and Iran. Considering the subject of that meeting and the well-known cover-up that has taken place these last 41 years, the meeting should have made headline news all over America. Sadly, however, it did not, just another testimony to the fact that America is now officially ‘occupied territory’ every bit as much as Arab Palestine." http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/us-warns-israel-there-will-be-no-uss-liberty-pt-ii/

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Jul 20, 2015 17:40:35   #
payne1000
 
JMHO wrote:
Blah...blah...blah...yawn...ho hum...just more moronic conspiracy crap from payne1000...nothing new...if it's weird, untrue, non-factual, or just plain bullshit, send it to payne1000, he'll post it.


Eight replies now and not one rebuttal. You have surpassed yourself for impotence this time, JMHO.

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Jul 21, 2015 07:31:18   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
payne1000 wrote:
Eight replies now and not one rebuttal. You have surpassed yourself for impotence this time, JMHO.


I don't debate morons who post moronic bullshit. Come up with some Real facts, and I'll debate. But, you never post real facts, only bullshit conspiracy crap...pathetically gullible you are, pal.

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Jul 21, 2015 08:06:24   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
payne1000 wrote:
By Ron Unz
"The recent remarks of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump have triggered a political media firestorm regarding the Vietnam War record of Sen. John McCain, resulting in a surge of renewed traffic to my "Tokyo Rose" piece, which I am now republishing below.

Read more . . . http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-when-tokyo-rose-ran-for-president/


When the Viet Nam war ended.......Nixon, Kissinger, & America...........needed a was hero! 'WE GOT MCCAIN"

"OK".....HE PAID THE PRICE FOR BEING CAPTURED! NOW.....HE NEEDS TO DO HIS JOB, & PROTECT ARIZONA'S BORDER!........END OF STORY!

TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT, IF HE IS THE ONLY ONE TELLING THE TRUTH!

AMERICA IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF ANOTHER **RONALD REAGAN!** THAT WON'T BE PERSUADED BY THE "RHINO'S!

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Jul 21, 2015 08:12:27   #
payne1000
 
JMHO wrote:
I don't debate morons who post moronic bullshit. Come up with some Real facts, and I'll debate. But, you never post real facts, only bullshit conspiracy crap...pathetically gullible you are, pal.


Everything I post is backed up with sources which make sense.

Your replies are sourced by ignorance and denial.

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Jul 21, 2015 08:21:09   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
payne1000 wrote:
Everything I post is backed up with sources which make sense.

Your replies are sourced by ignorance and denial.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Backed up with source and facts!??? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Thanks for the laugh, you're even more ignorant and gullible than I thought. You had better keep an eye out for the white suits with the butterfly nets, they'll be coming for you pal.

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Jul 21, 2015 08:50:42   #
payne1000
 
JMHO wrote:
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Backed up with source and facts!??? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Thanks for the laugh, you're even more ignorant and gullible than I thought. You had better keep an eye out for the white suits with the butterfly nets, they'll be coming for you pal.


Upon further research I discovered that Admiral Mullen's warning to Israel not to try to pull off another USS Liberty type false flag operation came under Bush and Cheney's Administration in 2008 and not under Obama.

"One of the few moments when a US official has had the audacity to face Israel down came from – significantly – a US Navy admiral. In early July 2008, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, was sent to Israel to read the riot act to then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, who seemed to be itching to start hostilities with Iran while President George W. Bush was in office.

We learned from the Israeli press that Mullen, fearing some form of Israeli provocation, went so far as to warn the Israelis not to even think about another incident like the attack on the USS Liberty on June 8, 1967 — that the Israelis should disabuse themselves of the notion that US military support would be knee-jerk automatic if Israel somehow provoked open hostilities with Iran.

This is the only occasion I am aware of in which a US official of such seniority braced Israel about the Liberty incident. A gutsy move, especially with Vice President Dick Cheney and national security aide Elliott Abrams then in the White House, two hawks who might well bless — or even encourage — an Israeli provocation that would make it very difficult for Washington to avoid springing to the defense of its “ally.”

The Israelis know that Mullen knows that the attack on the Liberty was deliberate. Mullen could have raised no more neuralgic an issue to take a shot across an Israeli bow than to cite the attack on the Liberty. The Jerusalem Post reported that Mullen cautioned that a Liberty-type incident must be avoided in any future military actions in the Middle East."


http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/25690-a-uss-libertys-heros-passing#

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Jul 21, 2015 08:58:19   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
payne1000 wrote:
Upon further research I discovered that Admiral Mullen's warning to Israel not to try to pull off another USS Liberty type false flag operation came under Bush and Cheney's Administration in 2008 and not under Obama.

"One of the few moments when a US official has had the audacity to face Israel down came from – significantly – a US Navy admiral. In early July 2008, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, was sent to Israel to read the riot act to then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, who seemed to be itching to start hostilities with Iran while President George W. Bush was in office.

We learned from the Israeli press that Mullen, fearing some form of Israeli provocation, went so far as to warn the Israelis not to even think about another incident like the attack on the USS Liberty on June 8, 1967 — that the Israelis should disabuse themselves of the notion that US military support would be knee-jerk automatic if Israel somehow provoked open hostilities with Iran.

This is the only occasion I am aware of in which a US official of such seniority braced Israel about the Liberty incident. A gutsy move, especially with Vice President Dick Cheney and national security aide Elliott Abrams then in the White House, two hawks who might well bless — or even encourage — an Israeli provocation that would make it very difficult for Washington to avoid springing to the defense of its “ally.”

The Israelis know that Mullen knows that the attack on the Liberty was deliberate. Mullen could have raised no more neuralgic an issue to take a shot across an Israeli bow than to cite the attack on the Liberty. The Jerusalem Post reported that Mullen cautioned that a Liberty-type incident must be avoided in any future military actions in the Middle East."


http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/25690-a-uss-libertys-heros-passing#
Upon further research I discovered that Admiral Mu... (show quote)


Blah...blah...blah...yawn...ho hum...more conspiracy bullcrap from a mentally disturbed individual...beware...

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Jul 21, 2015 09:08:21   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
payne1000 wrote:
Upon further research I discovered that Admiral Mullen's warning to Israel not to try to pull off another USS Liberty type false flag operation came under Bush and Cheney's Administration in 2008 and not under Obama.

"One of the few moments when a US official has had the audacity to face Israel down came from – significantly – a US Navy admiral. In early July 2008, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, was sent to Israel to read the riot act to then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, who seemed to be itching to start hostilities with Iran while President George W. Bush was in office.

We learned from the Israeli press that Mullen, fearing some form of Israeli provocation, went so far as to warn the Israelis not to even think about another incident like the attack on the USS Liberty on June 8, 1967 — that the Israelis should disabuse themselves of the notion that US military support would be knee-jerk automatic if Israel somehow provoked open hostilities with Iran.

This is the only occasion I am aware of in which a US official of such seniority braced Israel about the Liberty incident. A gutsy move, especially with Vice President Dick Cheney and national security aide Elliott Abrams then in the White House, two hawks who might well bless — or even encourage — an Israeli provocation that would make it very difficult for Washington to avoid springing to the defense of its “ally.”

The Israelis know that Mullen knows that the attack on the Liberty was deliberate. Mullen could have raised no more neuralgic an issue to take a shot across an Israeli bow than to cite the attack on the Liberty. The Jerusalem Post reported that Mullen cautioned that a Liberty-type incident must be avoided in any future military actions in the Middle East."


http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/25690-a-uss-libertys-heros-passing#
Upon further research I discovered that Admiral Mu... (show quote)


Hey payne1000! You should get this test done right away! There may be hope for you.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/20/health/saliva-test-may-catch-alzheimers-disease/index.html

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Jul 21, 2015 09:13:26   #
Orrie
 
payne1000 wrote:
By Ron Unz
"The recent remarks of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump have triggered a political media firestorm regarding the Vietnam War record of Sen. John McCain, resulting in a surge of renewed traffic to my "Tokyo Rose" piece, which I am now republishing below.

Read more . . . http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-when-tokyo-rose-ran-for-president/


Like most politicians today, McCain is a liar! Is he a traitor? I believe he is. The media is notorious for covering up the histories of politicians. A prime example of this is........Barry Soetoro aka Barrack H. Obama!

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Jul 21, 2015 10:06:57   #
sissymary
 
JMHO, I have a friend that is a super nice guy, very conservative etc. But if you even try to broach a subject such as Oswald was not JFK's killer, he absolutely go's bonkers. He gets red faced, spits, curses, to the point where he will put his hands over his ears and leave???? He's just like you. He won't debate, just throws out slurs and hate? What the hell are you afraid of? If Oswald was the killer of JFK, and the only one shooting at him, THEN WHY ARE THE RECORDS STILL SEALED? Including Oswolds tax records? Why, because then we could find out who he was really working for. Even the living piece of human shiit Heroldo Rivera (A jew), has changed his mind on the subject? Watch one lousy video for crying out loud. You say there is no evidence? Oh yes there is, quite a bit of it, but you simply refuse to look or listen. I almost feel sorry for you? Almost.

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