Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/whitewashing-civil-war-history-for-young-minds/2015/07/06/1168226c-2415-11e5-b77f-eb13a215f593_story.html

THIS FALL, Texas schools will teach students that Moses played a bigger role in inspiring the Constitution than slavery did in starting the Civil War. The Lone Star State’s new social studies textbooks, deliberately written to play down slavery’s role in Southern history, do not threaten only Texans — they pose a danger to schoolchildren all over the country.

The Texas board of education adopted a revised social studies curriculum in 2010 after a fierce battle. When it came to social studies standards, conservatives championing causes from a focus on the biblical underpinnings of our legal system to a whitewashed picture of race in the United States won out. The guidelines for teaching Civil War history were particularly concerning: They teach that “sectionalism, states’ rights and slavery” — carefully ordered to stress the first two and shrug off the last — caused the conflict. Come August, the first textbooks catering to the changed curriculum will make their way to Texas classrooms.

classlessoo

the civil war was started by ol Abe to save the union.Abe only freed the slaves in confederate states not the ones that remained in the union.

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

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If I may present another point of view; "ol Abe" didn't "start" the Civil War. He did, however, set the circumstances so as to force the CSA's hand by attempting to re-supply Ft. Sumter. Additionally, he refused to evacuate military installations in Florida; much to the chagrin of the CSA. If there was to be a "shooting war," it would be the CSA to fire the 1st shot. It was the CSA's option to fire the first shot or not.

Abe made no secret of the fact that his 1st priority was to preserve the Union. If continuing slavery in those states that already had slaves, then so be it. As the abolitionists continued to pressure him, and as a "slight" alteration in his "war goals," freeing the slaves was added. The reasons were two-fold. First, it placated the abolitionists in the North. Second, it provided another incentive to buttress continued Northern willingness to fight the war as until then, the South had been besting the Union military.

As to the re-writing of the history by Texas, it should be of no surprise to anyone, that the far-right conservatives, especially those in Texas, feel the need to do so. They refuse to recognize that their stance on minority rights and on immigration are out of step with the majority of the country, not to mention the majority of their own party.

So, only by re-writing Civil War history can they justify the awkward situation they've found themselves in. If they can't show their party's Civil War history, in a positive light, instead of changing their party, they'll re-write history to align with their party.

I'm not sure how, but I'm sure that makes perfect sense to them. Of course, remember, it's Texas we're dealing with.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Is it just me or unless you've been in the Navy, people seem stupid.

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

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Dummy Boy, I'm not sure how to take your comment. Are you calling me "stupid" for being in the Navy? Or, from my being in the Navy, that ohers seem, "stupid?" Please clarify.

Additionally, DO NOT put me in the same category as Blade Runner. While, unlike his disrespect of my military service, I'll respect his military service. I'm sure his post military comments about my officer ship wouldn't have been said while he was on active duty. He would've been brought up on charges had he openly voiced such disrespect to an officer.

He and I are polar opposites when it comes to politics and the practicing of our Christianity. I can see that he ascribes to the "Westboro Baptist Church" version of Christianity. I'm fairly confident, that if we were to know what he looked like, that we'd see him in pictures of those folks as they picket the funerals of military KIA's and the picketing of anything LGBT-related.

Blade's version of Christianity, as well as several others, (theo, NPP, and Rufus, to name a few), are the kind that give the majority of Christians a bad name. If you were to follow their posts and understand their rhetoric, you could draw a very tight correlation between them and their tactics, and the rhetoric and tactics of the radical Muslims.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

I don't think you're stupid, the best decision you made was joining the Navy...and ultimately that's why I KNOW that you're smart.

He also isn't a Christian. Anyone can look bible verses up on the internet, doesn't make him a Christian. It makes him a hypocrite.

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

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Thanks for the clarification, DB! :thumbup: I was hoping I'd just misinterpreted your comment.

Thanks, too, for the compliment regarding my joining the Navy. Are you Navy or ex-Navy? If so, I salute you for your service! :thumbup:

I'm glad that there's now a site that we liberals and moderates can go to and not feel that we're going to be attacked for expressing our opinions. I don't mind a "battle of wits;" I just get tired of fighting so many unarmed people!

Plus, it's so repetitious, reading the same rhetoric, over and over and over, again; even from so many different folks. It's so sad that there are so many who've proven that they can't think for themselves. Instead, they let others tell them what to say.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

I was an Electrician's Mate on the USS Plunger and Pintado.

Well you fight well, but logic isn't well received by someone who is illogical (to your point).

In their defense, too often, the Progressive Mind makes statements as if they are fact, but so to most Christians. Faith is not an excuse to be pedantic, it's just their comfort zone.

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

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Oh! An, "amp tramp," huh? Nuclear, too! Do you glow in the dark? :XD:
I don't know if you've read any of my other stories, but I had a first cousin that served aboard a nuclear sub, back in the 70's. He was medically discharged for sleep-walking and spouting off classified info while on-board his boat. I think it really hurt him to be discharged. He understood why he was discharged, but he was looking forward to a career in the Navy.

Anyway, thank you for your service, DB, in all sincerity! :thumbup:

BTW: I admit I can get "pedantic" in my responses. Several people tell me i need to condense my "epistles." But, once I'm on a roll, I can't stop. The words won't stop flowing. Like right now! Unless, I simply quit writing. STOP! :lol:

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

I glow in a different way....not from exposure.

jelun

I won't get into the stupid discussion as I believe that we all come off as 2 bricks short from time to time.
I do want to reassure you that most of us live in a world populated by people who identify as Christian, we can differentiate between the typical Christian and extreme folks easily.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

I'm sure she looks like that because she knows that people like you are her fellow citizen.

Artemis

I'm in full agreement, especially combing through posts and who to even attempt a discussion with, it is a main reason I don't post that much anymore, same ol same ol.

It's a shame really, conversing with other viewpoints other than my own is usually more interesting in the real world and not an attack.

jelun

Yes, indeed.
It is amazing how quickly a discussion goes downhill on the internet.
And yet, DB and Alabuck were able to sort through what could have been difficult.
I hope you stop in and visit as often as you wish to add to the conversation.
After all, I think that left to our own devises we cover a pretty wide swath on the political left.

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God