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Aug 18, 2013 03:56:22   #
OPP Newsletter
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2395972/Atheists-higher-IQs-Their-intelligence-makes-likely-dismiss-religion-irrational-unscientific.html


Atheists 'have higher IQs': Their intelligence 'makes them more likely to dismiss religion as irrational and unscientific'

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Aug 18, 2013 06:23:40   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
From the article:

The last census, carried out in March 2011, showed a fall in the number of people that call themselves Christian in the UK.
Christian numbers in England and Wales, including children, fell by 4.1 million in a decade to 33.2 million.
However there was a 45 per cent rise over the same 10 years in numbers who say they have no religion, to 14.1 million."

There are two possible conclusions to draw here if intelligence is related to atheism.
1) The intelligence of the people of England and Wales went up by the same percentage points during those same 10 years
(not likely); or
2) the studies are not really measuring what they claim to be.

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Aug 18, 2013 06:44:41   #
justkillingtime
 
Then explain how people like Sir Isaac Newton were Christians.

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Aug 18, 2013 07:31:36   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
I wonder, will this "study" turn out as wrong as the one done with race? It was once believed that white people scored higher on IQ tests than those of Blacks, ergo the conclusion was that Whites are smarter than blacks. This is of course absurd. Studies can be done in a number of ways to have outcomes skewed to produce the desired outcome. "The three great strategies for obscuring an issue are to introduce irrelevancies, to arouse prejudice, and to excite ridicule.... ---Bergen Evans, The Natural History of Nonsense"

OPP Newsletter wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2395972/Atheists-higher-IQs-Their-intelligence-makes-likely-dismiss-religion-irrational-unscientific.html


Atheists 'have higher IQs': Their intelligence 'makes them more likely to dismiss religion as irrational and unscientific'

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Aug 18, 2013 08:30:19   #
Burg57
 
athiests,have better IQ,cos they work for the Devil,and Fallowing GODs commands they cannot handle.That is where there IQ, drops.way Low.They are NOT smart,they are foolish.its OK when there time comes they will find out how blind they were.I dont feel sorry for them.GODBless America.

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Aug 18, 2013 08:54:10   #
bahmer
 
ginnyt wrote:
I wonder, will this "study" turn out as wrong as the one done with race? It was once believed that white people scored higher on IQ tests than those of Blacks, ergo the conclusion was that Whites are smarter than blacks. This is of course absurd. Studies can be done in a number of ways to have outcomes skewed to produce the desired outcome. "The three great strategies for obscuring an issue are to introduce irrelevancies, to arouse prejudice, and to excite ridicule.... ---Bergen Evans, The Natural History of Nonsense"
I wonder, will this "study" turn out as ... (show quote)


This is probably the same reasoning as they use when they take polls. It all depends on the wording of the question as to what kind of answer you get. Just remember the last time that the atheist gets to answer that question they will be standing in front of "I AM" and it will be a no brainer at that time. The trouble is it also won't count then. Even Satan believes in God and trembles, while the fool has said in his heart there is no God.

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Aug 18, 2013 09:02:45   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Do I understand you correctly, you are saying that a person who has no belief in God has belief, and thereby, work for the devil? In order to work or be apart of a worker/employee relationship, both have to be real. Strictly speaking, an atheists does not believe in any type of gods, whether high or low. There is no coloration between being an atheists and having lack of values, morals, or ethics. Did you know that according to prison records religion breakdown is 39% Catholic, Protestant at 35%, and atheist are near the bottom at .20. http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm

The topic is not about atheists as a view on eternal life, it is simply do they have higher IQs.

Before you misunderstand and think that I too am an atheist, I assure you that I have a firm unshakable belief in God.


Burg57 wrote:
athiests,have better IQ,cos they work for the Devil,and Fallowing GODs commands they cannot handle.That is where there IQ, drops.way Low.They are NOT smart,they are foolish.its OK when there time comes they will find out how blind they were.I dont feel sorry for them.GODBless America.

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Aug 18, 2013 09:11:01   #
astrolite
 
working class stiff wrote:
From the article:

The last census, carried out in March 2011, showed a fall in the number of people that call themselves Christian in the UK.
Christian numbers in England and Wales, including children, fell by 4.1 million in a decade to 33.2 million.
However there was a 45 per cent rise over the same 10 years in numbers who say they have no religion, to 14.1 million."

There are two possible conclusions to draw here if intelligence is related to atheism.
1) The intelligence of the people of England and Wales went up by the same percentage points during those same 10 years
(not likely); or
2) the studies are not really measuring what they claim to be.
From the article: br br The last census, carried ... (show quote)


Another possible reason is the huge flood of Muslims, thousands a week flooding into the UK. None of which are Christians, the study should have asked how many are Muslims, dedicated to the destruction of Western Culture! But THAT RESULT wasn't wanted.....they only wanted to feel themselves superior!

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Aug 18, 2013 09:18:52   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Surveys, statistics, and probably even census taking, is not to be taken so seriously as irrefutable. Any or all can be manipulated to show the results sought by the manipulator.
I do not dismiss them completely, but don't assume them to be the "gospel". I remain highly skeptical.

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Aug 18, 2013 10:25:07   #
rumitoid
 
OPP Newsletter wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2395972/Atheists-higher-IQs-Their-intelligence-makes-likely-dismiss-religion-irrational-unscientific.html


Atheists 'have higher IQs': Their intelligence 'makes them more likely to dismiss religion as irrational and unscientific'


Below are three links that talk about different types of intelligence. The intelligence covered in a basic IQ test does not take all of the varities into consideration. It would be interesting to test athiests and believers in all areas to see which category of smarts each score high in. This may go a ways in explaining the tendency to accept or reject the belief in God.

http://www.lifehack.org/articles/communication/whats-your-intelligence-type.html

http://skyview.vansd.org/lschmidt/Projects/The%20Nine%20Types%20of%20Intelligence.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_multiple_intelligences

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Aug 18, 2013 10:35:05   #
weneedrubio
 
I have found that people who put great stock in textbook only intelligence tend to be very insecure and unable to do anything but regurgitate trivia taught by others. Intelligence is much more then that and this study is just another closed minded attempt to discard religion. It appears that the work has turned on who and what constitutes open minded ness these days.
te=rumitoid]Below are three links that talk about different types of intelligence. The intelligence covered in a basic IQ test does not take all of the varities into consideration. It would be interesting to test athiests and believers in all areas to see which category of smarts each score high in. This may go a ways in explaining the tendency to accept or reject the belief in God.

http://www.lifehack.org/articles/communication/whats-your-intelligence-type.html

http://skyview.vansd.org/lschmidt/Projects/The%20Nine%20Types%20of%20Intelligence.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_multiple_intelligences[/quote]

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Aug 18, 2013 10:48:13   #
jetson
 
Hard to believe, when the Bible says you are fools, and that you are corrupt and vile and none of you do good. Psalm 53:1 It says The devil has blinded you. 2cd Corith. 4:4. That you are an enemy of God James 4:4 God does not hear your prayers Psalm 66:18, John 9:31.(only the prayer of repentance) The Bible says all have been given a heart to know good from evil, Hebrews 10:16.

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Aug 18, 2013 11:39:49   #
Navysnipe Loc: Old West
 
rumitoid wrote:
Below are three links that talk about different types of intelligence. The intelligence covered in a basic IQ test does not take all of the varities into consideration. It would be interesting to test athiests and believers in all areas to see which category of smarts each score high in. This may go a ways in explaining the tendency to accept or reject the belief in God.

http://www.lifehack.org/articles/communication/whats-your-intelligence-type.html

http://skyview.vansd.org/lschmidt/Projects/The%20Nine%20Types%20of%20Intelligence.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_multiple_intelligences
Below are three links that talk about different ty... (show quote)


Thank you rumitoid, that is exactly what I was going to say. Atheist: "Let's all take a test on something we know we are good at, and when we score higher than Christians, we will claim we are more intelligent than they are."
They figured know one would figure out that there are more ways to measure intelligence. So, maybe they aren't as smart as they think they are after all.

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Aug 18, 2013 11:44:51   #
rumitoid
 
Navysnipe wrote:
Thank you rumitoid, that is exactly what I was going to say. Atheist: "Let's all take a test on something we know we are good at, and when we score higher than Christians, we will claim we are more intelligent than they are."
They figured know one would figure out that there are more ways to measure intelligence. So, maybe they aren't as smart as they think they are after all.


Amen!

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Aug 18, 2013 12:02:25   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
rumitoid wrote:
Amen!


Back to my wonderful cousin. I will have to call him this afternoon and ask him how he managed his higher level degrees. Apparently during his work on these degrees he tossed out his firm belief on God. His poor wife must immediately be demoted from her excellent job. It is going to be a shock for their two progeny to have to cease work on their higher level degrees, because of their strong commitment to faith and active church life, makes them unqualified to pursue this education.

I will not bother with my usual long pedantic and verbose adjectives and just say, DRIVEL!

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