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Jun 28, 2015 08:24:36   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
I live in South Carolina, and I would like to know what y'all on OPP feel about demands of both liberals and conservatives in the state, that the Confederate battle flag that flies at the South Carolina State House be taken down. It seems this demand is being repeated all over the South.

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Jun 28, 2015 08:38:56   #
CowboyMilt
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
I live in South Carolina, and I would like to know what y'all on OPP feel about demands of both liberals and conservatives in the state, that the Confederate battle flag that flies at the South Carolina State House be taken down. It seems this demand is being repeated all over the South.


I personally think it's Hysteria to Ban a symbol that has different meaning for different folks...It's just a symbol & nothing more to me & I'm going out and buying 1 or 2 or maybe more just to have...PERIOD!

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Jun 28, 2015 08:40:27   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
I live in South Carolina, and I would like to know what y'all on OPP feel about demands of both liberals and conservatives in the state, that the Confederate battle flag that flies at the South Carolina State House be taken down. It seems this demand is being repeated all over the South.


If you live in SC, why does your byline say Queens, NY?
I personally think it is a matter for the people of SC to decide. Someone from another state has no damn business demanding this or that.

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Jun 28, 2015 08:45:10   #
jelun
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
I live in South Carolina, and I would like to know what y'all on OPP feel about demands of both liberals and conservatives in the state, that the Confederate battle flag that flies at the South Carolina State House be taken down. It seems this demand is being repeated all over the South.



Not only is it being repeated, it is being acted on.
It is about time!

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Jun 28, 2015 08:47:31   #
solarkin
 
CowboyMilt wrote:
I personally think it's Hysteria to Ban a symbol that has different meaning for different folks...It's just a symbol & nothing more to me & I'm going out and buying 1 or 2 or maybe more just to have...PERIOD!


Redirection and collusion.
Erasing history.Rewriting it.
Distraction and control .
What chance does this nation really have if
We're all pot smoking Lbgqt's with no sense of duty to our country ?

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Jun 28, 2015 08:55:35   #
jelun
 
CowboyMilt wrote:
I personally think it's Hysteria to Ban a symbol that has different meaning for different folks...It's just a symbol & nothing more to me & I'm going out and buying 1 or 2 or maybe more just to have...PERIOD!



Where do you get the idea of banning anything?

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Jun 28, 2015 08:58:17   #
plainlogic
 
People have different opinions from different areas. If something is passed, like taking the confederate flag down, and we already know the governments morph bills into something that is 180 degrees from the the intent. Everyone should be heads up, it could be your state next if the minority decides they don't like your state flag.

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Jun 28, 2015 09:01:22   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
I think it is a shame, the flag committed no offence and it represents a part of history that should never be forgotten. It is flown to honor those who died in a war that was actually the fault of the North. Should you ask any Liberal the cause for the Civil War they will have a single response; Slavery was the key, the darkest sin of the New Word. Truth be told, that was very minor compared to what really shaped and massaged a bad political climate into blood baths and bodies stacked like firewood at entrances to the surgeon’s tents. And the South, in honor of those who died hosts the Confederate Battle Flag and the Liberals are offended. One should be more offended with the loss of life, during the war and in the years that have followed. How is removing the Battle Flag going to change the fact that a deranged and evil person shot the men and women in the church? How is refocusing from their death onto a flag honoring them?

For all of you people that assign racism to the battle flag are quite honestly ignorant of history of not only the flag but of the Civil War. It seems to me that some people are in such need to actually wrap their arms or destroy something and they can not reach the shooter, so they grasp at anything that they can destroy. The problem with this, the flag is part of our history. It is part of our past, a part that tore us apart for perpetuity; an endless open wound for all Americans regardless if you are a Yankee or Southerner. Sure you can take down the flag and I am sure Sharpton and Obama will raise enough resentment to replace Old Glory and then they will move on to the destruction of all Confederate monuments..... hoping that somehow this will erase the past. But, the past did happen and no matter how much you do not like it, the past can not be undone.

saltwind 78 wrote:
I live in South Carolina, and I would like to know what y'all on OPP feel about demands of both liberals and conservatives in the state, that the Confederate battle flag that flies at the South Carolina State House be taken down. It seems this demand is being repeated all over the South.



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Jun 28, 2015 09:02:02   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
jelun wrote:
Not only is it being repeated, it is being acted on.
It is about time!


According to FBI statistics on interracial crime, nearly 80% of violent interracial crime is committed by blacks against whites, even though the black population is one seventh that of whites.
Given this disparity, I think we should start removing the name of Martin Luther King from everyplace it has appeared. It seems obvious if a flag can cause one incident, a name can also.
Since at one time or another, slavery was legal in all 13 of the original colonies, and no one of these original 13 states comes to the table with clean hands, let's abolish every single state flag of the original 13.
Since there was not one single slave ship owned by Southerners, I think we should start with the Northern flags, particularly Taxachusetts, Connecticutt, and Noo Yawk, since that is where the majority of US owned slave ships owners resided.
Since slavery was permitted in Kentucky, New Jersey, West Virginia, and Maryland during the entire course of the Civil War, and the Union could have abolished the institution in these states any time it chose, but chose not to, how about we burn all of these flags immediately?

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Jun 28, 2015 09:14:35   #
CowboyMilt
 
Loki wrote:
If you live in SC, why does your byline say Queens, NY?
I personally think it is a matter for the people of SC to decide. Someone from another state has no damn business demanding this or that.


I agree, I don't think the Confederate flag should be banned personally it's been around longer than any of us who are alive today. It's a symbol of the Civil War which lost more American lives than probably all the Wars since & a Reb life was just as meaningful as a Yank life & to ban it "as a symbol of slavery" is stupid & just another way to divide this Nation...What if the FAKE decides to "ban" "Old Glory" are we all going to go along with it in a similar way? Don't think it isn't a possibility, I wouldn't put it past the FAKE! PERIOD!

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Jun 28, 2015 09:20:24   #
plainlogic
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I think it is a shame, the flag committed no offence and it represents a part of history that should never be forgotten. It is flown to honor those who died in a war that was actually the fault of the North. Should you ask any Liberal the cause for the Civil War they will have a single response; Slavery was the key, the darkest sin of the New Word. Truth be told, that was very minor compared to what really shaped and massaged a bad political climate into blood baths and bodies stacked like firewood at entrances to the surgeon’s tents. And the South, in honor of those who died hosts the Confederate Battle Flag and the Liberals are offended. One should be more offended with the loss of life, during the war and in the years that have followed. How is removing the Battle Flag going to change the fact that a deranged and evil person shot the men and women in the church? How is refocusing from their death onto a flag honoring them?

For all of you people that assign racism to the battle flag are quite honestly ignorant of history of not only the flag but of the Civil War. It seems to me that some people are in such need to actually wrap their arms or destroy something and they can not reach the shooter, so they grasp at anything that they can destroy. The problem with this, the flag is part of our history. It is part of our past, a part that tore us apart for perpetuity; an endless open wound for all Americans regardless if you are a Yankee or Southerner. Sure you can take down the flag and I am sure Sharpton and Obama will raise enough resentment to replace Old Glory and then they will move on to the destruction of all Confederate monuments..... hoping that somehow this will erase the past. But, the past did happen and no matter how much you do not like it, the past can not be undone.
I think it is a shame, the flag committed no offen... (show quote)



The history books and the past is and have been being erased. The educators through the education system with the help of Government continues to mold the children's minds. Do the majority care? doubt it!

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Jun 28, 2015 09:26:17   #
Spankem Loc: NJ
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
I live in South Carolina, and I would like to know what y'all on OPP feel about demands of both liberals and conservatives in the state, that the Confederate battle flag that flies at the South Carolina State House be taken down. It seems this demand is being repeated all over the South.


It's a flag like any other flag, a symbol that represents "The South" and southerners take pride in that, because it's a symbol that distinguishes them as Southerners of the USA.
I see nothing wrong with that, how is that different than the Lone star flag of Texas or any other state or national flag. There are so many groups and organizations that have flags, someone can probably come up with reasons to dislike any flag, and that doesn't make them right or wrong, they're entitled to their opinion.
BUT it ain't right for them to want your flag to disappear while they fly theirs, hypocrisy to be sure.

I do understand that to some maybe even many African-Americans it's a negative symbol of slavery, however I don't believe that that's the intent of it's symbolic meaning, It represents "The South" as a region a group of Americans, and of course in history it was at one time a symbol of distinction between the confederate states and the union states.

I propose that any "African-Americans" opposed to the confederate or battle flag, recognize the fact that their term African-Americans distinguishing & segregating themselves is a hypocrisy, laws should be passed banning or using that term. I certainly don't like it. Also while we're at it lets ban anything symbolic of the Black Panthers as it represents hate, I also suggest we ban the NAACP as it also represents race and segregation. Sounds fair to me, "what's good for the goose is good for the gander"

I am a Yankee, born in NYC living in NJ since 1961, My mom was 1 of 13 kids born in Carrollton Ga, I have lots of family/rebels in the south, and I have spent a lot of time in the south in the 50s and been back many times visiting my relatives there.
This country and the south in particular have come a long way in diminishing segregation and racism and by law banned it, I am a first person witness from both sides of the Mason Dixon line, and proud of that as an American.

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Jun 28, 2015 09:27:16   #
plainlogic
 
CowboyMilt wrote:
I agree, I don't think the Confederate flag should be banned personally it's been around longer than any of us who are alive today. It's a symbol of the Civil War which lost more American lives than probably all the Wars since & a Reb life was just as meaningful as a Yank life & to ban it "as a symbol of slavery" is stupid & just another way to divide this Nation...What if the FAKE decides to "ban" "Old Glory" are we all going to go along with it in a similar way? Don't think it isn't a possibility, I wouldn't put it past the FAKE! PERIOD!
I agree, I don't think the Confederate flag should... (show quote)


Well, take a read... It may sound tongue in cheeck but I think he's serious.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/25/louis-farrakhan-calls-american-flag-come-down-who-/

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Jun 28, 2015 09:30:04   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
Hear hear :thumbup: :thumbup:

Loki wrote:
If you live in SC, why does your byline say Queens, NY?
I personally think it is a matter for the people of SC to decide. Someone from another state has no damn business demanding this or that.

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Jun 28, 2015 09:33:14   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
missinglink wrote:
Hear hear :thumbup: :thumbup:


There, there!!

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