payne1000 wrote:
Written by
Chris Floyd"As all the world knows, the United States government is fervently dedicated to advancing the cause of peace throughout the world. Tirelessly, selflessly and thanklessly America pursues this noble mission in every corner of the globe: standing shoulder to shoulder with Saudi extremists in slaughtering civilians in Yemen, with al Qaeda and ISIS beheading their way across Syria, with fascist militias in Ukraine. But recently, Americas Nobel Peace Prize-winning president went far beyond these localized acts of lovingkindness and made a beneficent decision that potentially could effect every single person drawing breath on our blue planet.
Late last month, the Peace Prize Prez (PPPOTUS) blocked a global document aimed at ridding the world of nuclear weapons, the Washington Post reports. Obamas peace-loving action means that the entire blueprint for global nuclear disarmament and non-proliferation has been killed dead in its tracks. It will now be five years until the next UN review of the landmark Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
You might think this is odd behaviour from a president who has spent years tightening a stranglehold on Iran with an endless series of aggressive, bellicose acts just short of outright war, in order (ostensibly) to prevent that rogue nation from developing nuclear weapons. Very late in the day, he has recently decided to try to craft a non-proliferation deal with Iran that is very similar to the deal that Iran offered the United States more than 12 years ago the kind of deal that has been on the table from Iran for his entire presidency. Its likely that the main spur to his belated attempt at deal-making stems from his realization that he desperately needs Irans help to quell the ungodly maelstrom of murder, ruin and extremism he and his predecessor (and their Saudi allies) have unleashed in the Middle East.
In any case, he has long insisted that the proliferation of nuclear weapons must be opposed and thwarted at all costs. Why then has he stepped in to stop the global framework for, er, thwarting nuclear proliferation? To protect a rogue nuclear state which has illegally developed a vast arsenal of nuclear weapons and which adamantly refuses to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. (Unlike Iran, which has for years accepted an international inspection regimen far more rigorous than the Treaty calls for.)
The nuclear renegade is, of course, Israel. And the treaty review that Obama just killed would have called for a conference in 2016 on eliminating all nuclear weapons in the Middle East. Of course, only one nation in the Middle East actually has nuclear weapons. But Israel is concerned that such a conference would force it to acknowledge the existence of the large nuclear arsenal that everyone in the world already knows it has.
So the United States with the slavish support of its London lapdog and Ottawa underling moved to kill the negotiations for the conference. The decision has alarmed countries without nuclear weapons, who are increasingly frustrated by what they see as the slow pace of nuclear-armed countries to disarm, the Post reports. Amid a growing movement that stresses the humanitarian impact of nuclear weapons, Austria announced that 107 states have now signed a pledge calling for legal measures to ban and eliminate them.
Of course, Obamas action was not merely a benevolent service for Israel. For not only does the United States want to keep Israel as its nuclear-armed crusader fortress in the Middle East it also has no intention whatsoever of eliminating its own nuclear arsenal. This will never happen, no matter which faction of militarist courtiers happens to wrap their candidate in the imperial purple for a time in 2016 or 2020 or 2024, etc. So any undermining of genuine efforts toward nuclear disarmament also serves Americas bipartisan agenda of unipolar domination of world affairs.
This is far more important than ridding the world of nuclear weapons or even trying to control their proliferation. Now there are five years of open field ahead for more nations to jump into the nuclear club including Americas Saudi buddies, who say they might get some nukes for their own selves if Obama cuts a deal with Iran
which, as every Western intelligence agency has avowed, is not actually trying to build a nuclear weapon.
To speak plainly and with no addition: Americas bipartisan elite would rather put the entire world into more nuclear peril than surrender a single iota for their lust for loot and power."http://www.chris-floyd.com/Articles/2500-progressive-apocalypse-obama-opens-door-to-nuclear-nightmare.htmlWritten by b Chris Floyd /b br br i "As a... (
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That is a GD lie why don't you fact check BS before you post it.
Simple fact... Iran has stated publicly of it's intention to destroy Israel once it has nuke capability's ..... Israel on the other hand has probably had decent nuke capabilities for some time now and has threatened no one ....threats from religious extremists tend to be problematic...
emarine wrote:
Simple fact... Iran has stated publicly of it's intention to destroy Israel once it has nuke capability's ..... Israel on the other hand has probably had decent nuke capabilities for some time now and has threatened no one ....threats from religious extremists tend to be problematic...
You are blatantly lying about Iran threatening Israel with nuclear weapons.
Even a former chief of Mossad has said that Iran's leaders are rational.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-spymaster-meir-dagan-on-irans-threat-12-09-2012/Why do you think Israel still won't admit to having nuclear weapons and has always refused to join the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and allow their nuclear weapons to be inspected by the IAEA? Hiding their nuclear weapons from international scrutiny is much worse than any imagined threats from non-existent Iranian nukes.
Do you know that JFK's assassination happened only a few months after he sent a letter to Israeli Prime Minister Eshkol demanding inspections of Israel's nuclear facilities? The letter is shown below:
emarine wrote:
Simple fact... Iran has stated publicly of it's intention to destroy Israel once it has nuke capability's ..... Israel on the other hand has probably had decent nuke capabilities for some time now and has threatened no one ....threats from religious extremists tend to be problematic...
Israel has Nukes because we gave them to Israel why do you think Iran hates us. Reagan also gave Iraq WMDs to fight the Iran Iraq war. Why do you think these people and Muslims hate Americans
tdsrnest wrote:
Israel has Nukes because we gave them to Israel why do you think Iran hates us. Reagan also gave Iraq WMDs to fight the Iran Iraq war. Why do you think these people and Muslims hate Americans
Actually, it was the US, France, Germany, Britain and Norway who helped Israel produce nuclear weapons. France even helped Israel build the equipment required.
Arnon Milchan, a billionaire Hollywood producer behind such hits as Pretty Woman, LA Confidential and 12 Years a Slave, finally admitted his role in Israel's illegal procurement of nuclear weapons.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/15/truth-israels-secret-nuclear-arsenal
Producer Arnon Milchan with Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie at the premiere of Mr and Mrs Smith.
payne1000 wrote:
Written by
Chris Floyd"As all the world knows, the United States government is fervently dedicated to advancing the cause of peace throughout the world. Tirelessly, selflessly and thanklessly America pursues this noble mission in every corner of the globe: standing shoulder to shoulder with Saudi extremists in slaughtering civilians in Yemen, with al Qaeda and ISIS beheading their way across Syria, with fascist militias in Ukraine. But recently, Americas Nobel Peace Prize-winning president went far beyond these localized acts of lovingkindness and made a beneficent decision that potentially could effect every single person drawing breath on our blue planet.
Late last month, the Peace Prize Prez (PPPOTUS) blocked a global document aimed at ridding the world of nuclear weapons, the Washington Post reports. Obamas peace-loving action means that the entire blueprint for global nuclear disarmament and non-proliferation has been killed dead in its tracks. It will now be five years until the next UN review of the landmark Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
You might think this is odd behaviour from a president who has spent years tightening a stranglehold on Iran with an endless series of aggressive, bellicose acts just short of outright war, in order (ostensibly) to prevent that rogue nation from developing nuclear weapons. Very late in the day, he has recently decided to try to craft a non-proliferation deal with Iran that is very similar to the deal that Iran offered the United States more than 12 years ago the kind of deal that has been on the table from Iran for his entire presidency. Its likely that the main spur to his belated attempt at deal-making stems from his realization that he desperately needs Irans help to quell the ungodly maelstrom of murder, ruin and extremism he and his predecessor (and their Saudi allies) have unleashed in the Middle East.
In any case, he has long insisted that the proliferation of nuclear weapons must be opposed and thwarted at all costs. Why then has he stepped in to stop the global framework for, er, thwarting nuclear proliferation? To protect a rogue nuclear state which has illegally developed a vast arsenal of nuclear weapons and which adamantly refuses to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. (Unlike Iran, which has for years accepted an international inspection regimen far more rigorous than the Treaty calls for.)
The nuclear renegade is, of course, Israel. And the treaty review that Obama just killed would have called for a conference in 2016 on eliminating all nuclear weapons in the Middle East. Of course, only one nation in the Middle East actually has nuclear weapons. But Israel is concerned that such a conference would force it to acknowledge the existence of the large nuclear arsenal that everyone in the world already knows it has.
So the United States with the slavish support of its London lapdog and Ottawa underling moved to kill the negotiations for the conference. The decision has alarmed countries without nuclear weapons, who are increasingly frustrated by what they see as the slow pace of nuclear-armed countries to disarm, the Post reports. Amid a growing movement that stresses the humanitarian impact of nuclear weapons, Austria announced that 107 states have now signed a pledge calling for legal measures to ban and eliminate them.
Of course, Obamas action was not merely a benevolent service for Israel. For not only does the United States want to keep Israel as its nuclear-armed crusader fortress in the Middle East it also has no intention whatsoever of eliminating its own nuclear arsenal. This will never happen, no matter which faction of militarist courtiers happens to wrap their candidate in the imperial purple for a time in 2016 or 2020 or 2024, etc. So any undermining of genuine efforts toward nuclear disarmament also serves Americas bipartisan agenda of unipolar domination of world affairs.
This is far more important than ridding the world of nuclear weapons or even trying to control their proliferation. Now there are five years of open field ahead for more nations to jump into the nuclear club including Americas Saudi buddies, who say they might get some nukes for their own selves if Obama cuts a deal with Iran
which, as every Western intelligence agency has avowed, is not actually trying to build a nuclear weapon.
To speak plainly and with no addition: Americas bipartisan elite would rather put the entire world into more nuclear peril than surrender a single iota for their lust for loot and power."http://www.chris-floyd.com/Articles/2500-progressive-apocalypse-obama-opens-door-to-nuclear-nightmare.htmlWritten by b Chris Floyd /b br br i "As a... (
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So today, I state clearly and with conviction Americas commitment to seek the peace and security of a world without nuclear weapons, President Obama said at the open-air rally in Prague on April 5. With these words came a change in the global air, as if a window had been opened a crack in a dark room that had been sealed shut for decades. On only two previous occasions had an American president proposed the abolition of nuclear arms. The first was Trumans proposal at the United Nations in 1946 to place all nuclear technology under international control and devote it entirely to peaceful purposes, and so to strangle the nuclear age in its cradle. Stalins Soviet Union, bent on developing the bomb, would not agree.
The second was the summit meeting at Reykjavik, Iceland, in 1986, where President Reagan and General Secretary Gorbachev came within an ace of agreeing to full nuclear disarmament. Their bid foundered on Reagans Strategic Defense Initiative, which he would not give up and Gorbachev would not accept. Thereafter the pronuclear consensus was restored.
This article was originally published in The Nation
These fears are mitigated by the agenda of measures Obama announced as first steps toward abolition. A wish list of arms controllers of recent years, they include ratifying the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty; negotiating a fissile material cutoff treaty; negotiating mutual cuts in nuclear warheads with Russia, perhaps to a level of 1,500 or 1,000; and fortifying the NPT. These proposals would be welcome in any context, but they take on added meaning when viewed as way stations on a journey to a nuclear-weapons-free world. Most interesting, perhaps, was Obamas promise to host a Global Summit on Nuclear Security in the next year. Will it concentrate solely on nonproliferation or acknowledge the indispensable link between that goal and full nuclear disarmament? The answer, of course, will not depend on Obama alone. He has brought the nuclear dilemma back into public view. But his vision is a work in progress, a ground of contention on which all who desire disarmament are invited to exert themselves.
Was Obamas speech historic? Not yet. It was an invitation to participate in history. It will be historic if we make it so. Obama says he is prepared to postpone abolition until he has died. He is 47. I wish him long life. Let us free the world of nuclear weapons while he is still among us.
Jonathan Schell is is the Harold Willens Peace Fellow at The Nation Institute and teaches a course on the nuclear dilemma at Yale. He is the author of The Seventh Decade: The New Shape of Nuclear Danger.
http://www.wagingpeace.org/tag/nuclear-talks/
emarine wrote:
Simple fact... Iran has stated publicly of it's intention to destroy Israel once it has nuke capability's ..... Israel on the other hand has probably had decent nuke capabilities for some time now and has threatened no one ....threats from religious extremists tend to be problematic...
Point well taken :thumbup: :thumbup:
Artemis wrote:
So today, I state clearly and with conviction Americas commitment to seek the peace and security of a world without nuclear weapons, President Obama said at the open-air rally in Prague on April 5. With these words came a change in the global air, as if a window had been opened a crack in a dark room that had been sealed shut for decades. On only two previous occasions had an American president proposed the abolition of nuclear arms. The first was Trumans proposal at the United Nations in 1946 to place all nuclear technology under international control and devote it entirely to peaceful purposes, and so to strangle the nuclear age in its cradle. Stalins Soviet Union, bent on developing the bomb, would not agree.
The second was the summit meeting at Reykjavik, Iceland, in 1986, where President Reagan and General Secretary Gorbachev came within an ace of agreeing to full nuclear disarmament. Their bid foundered on Reagans Strategic Defense Initiative, which he would not give up and Gorbachev would not accept. Thereafter the pronuclear consensus was restored.
This article was originally published in The Nation
These fears are mitigated by the agenda of measures Obama announced as first steps toward abolition. A wish list of arms controllers of recent years, they include ratifying the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty; negotiating a fissile material cutoff treaty; negotiating mutual cuts in nuclear warheads with Russia, perhaps to a level of 1,500 or 1,000; and fortifying the NPT. These proposals would be welcome in any context, but they take on added meaning when viewed as way stations on a journey to a nuclear-weapons-free world. Most interesting, perhaps, was Obamas promise to host a Global Summit on Nuclear Security in the next year. Will it concentrate solely on nonproliferation or acknowledge the indispensable link between that goal and full nuclear disarmament? The answer, of course, will not depend on Obama alone. He has brought the nuclear dilemma back into public view. But his vision is a work in progress, a ground of contention on which all who desire disarmament are invited to exert themselves.
Was Obamas speech historic? Not yet. It was an invitation to participate in history. It will be historic if we make it so. Obama says he is prepared to postpone abolition until he has died. He is 47. I wish him long life. Let us free the world of nuclear weapons while he is still among us.
Jonathan Schell is is the Harold Willens Peace Fellow at The Nation Institute and teaches a course on the nuclear dilemma at Yale. He is the author of The Seventh Decade: The New Shape of Nuclear Danger.
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The only information of value in your linked article is that it was Reagan who scuttled the chance for world nuclear disarmament in 1986.
That is Reagan's most important legacy to the world.
Artemis wrote:
Point well taken :thumbup: :thumbup:
If you think emarine's point was valid, maybe you can show readers where Iran threatened to wipe out Israel when and if they got nuclear weapons.
payne1000 wrote:
If you think emarine's point was valid, maybe you can show readers where Iran threatened to wipe out Israel when and if they got nuclear weapons.
Where Iran has threaten to wipe out Israel? Your kidding right?
Artemis wrote:
Where Iran has threaten to wipe out Israel? Your kidding right?
No, I'm not kidding.
Obviously you can't find a valid source for that propaganda or you would have posted it.
Sell Israel to the Muslims.
Scoop Henderson wrote:
Sell Israel to the Muslims.
Better still, stop giving $8 million from our treasury a day to Israel.
Examine the photo of Tel Aviv below. If the $3 billion+ we give Israel annually were given to Detroit instead, wouldn't that make more sense?
Tel Aviv
Detroit
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